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Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 09 Jan 2025, 12:46
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Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:33
by lowlife
Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:05
Mex Martillo" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:03
Fucking 5 at the back to defend 0-1
Fucking shit
Indeed. As I posted on the Potter thread. Worrying sigs that Potter can't manage games when the opposition wakes up. Sit back and wait to concede seemed to be the tactic. A la Moyes and a load of deadbeat previous managers before him.
I can see why this guy has a lowly 32% win percentage as a top flight manager.
When are you jumping to KUMB? Insufferable.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:32
by Sir Alf
We became ragged too as we became tired and gaps started opening up especially once they scored. Psychological impact of conceding is huge on a fragile team confidence. In the end it simply came down to a very thin squad in terms of Premiership quality. Potter in one training session did make things simple for the players to understand and it was effective for 45 mins. But once Summerville went off it was a case of trying to hang on as we were unbalanced up front and Ings coming on for him was like going down to 10 men. No out ball at all possible, we tired and no strength on the bench. One fortuitious goal for Villa but they brought on Onana and others and we brough on Ings, Coufal and Cresswell Dads Army. That then made them a lot stronger than us and we capitulated.
Nice little burst at the end but again lack of quality saw a couple of decent chances wasted.
Potter needs time and now reinforcements
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:28
by twoleftfeet
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:25
Ollie Scarles was superb tonight - and against a good team. He did not flatter to deceive and we need to keep him in the match day squad for the rest of this season (even if he doesn’t start every game).
He’s a proper player. He’ll make mistakes as he gains experience, of course. But this particular Jan-May period is a great time to blood him now. The aim should be to have him ready and experienced for next season.
Agreed, he was excellent.
I think we might see Casey soon as well.
I’d like to see Irvine play as well.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:27
by happygilmore
That's my interest in this year's FA Cup finished and it's not even the Saturday of of the 3rd round games
all eyes on what players we get in and get rid of now
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:25
by southbankbornnbred
Ollie Scarles was superb tonight - and against a good team. He did not flatter to deceive and we need to keep him in the match day squad for the rest of this season (even if he doesn’t start every game).
He’s a proper player. He’ll make mistakes as he gains experience, of course. But this particular Jan-May period is a great time to blood him now. The aim should be to have him ready and experienced for next season.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:24
by stubbo
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:15
Was a good effort. Scarles looked comfortable as left back and that first half was as good as we have played all season.
Switching to a back 5 cost us though. Should have brought on Soler or Guilherme. Instead we invited pressure and crumbled.
Fabianski, Ings, Cresswell, Coufal, Soucek and both the CB’s are simply not good enough. Add to that 3 crocked strikers and we are in trouble if we don’t make a couple of key signings in January.
Switching? We played back 5 from the start. Was classic Potter....Wan Bissaka played right side centre back, Summerville played right wing back, Scarles left wing back, and a box midfield with a striker?
Trouble was we lost the players to make the system work...but wlthe setup didn't change....just the players in the setup.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:23
by threesixty
Probably got a months worth of games with 1 shit forward (Ings) and another misfiring one (kudus). This is actually panic stations tbh. This will relegate us. Seriously.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:23
by One Sunny Day
Thought Potter did OK with limited resources but shows what a huge job there is ahead. We lost to an understrengh Villa team who played crap
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:22
by Solidbond1
We became ragged and panicky once Coufal came on I thought he unsettled the back four.Paquetá on the left Kudus central and Jimmy on the right was superb from Potter shame the injuries disrupted the line up. Scarles was excellent .
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:20
by HammerFan43
Overall some encouragement mixed with confirmation of urgent need for reinforcements to be able to see out the season
With the amount of money spent over the past months I really can't see that happeing.
That said I do hope I am very wrong.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:19
by Takashi Miike
no idea if we can get him back but Kodua is perfect for this system. Marshall too in the summer
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:19
by LJC
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:12
LJC wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:08
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:05
To those demanding the chequebook, we have to be a bit careful: we’ve got a lot of ageing, shit, injured or out-on-loan players taking up a big chunk of our PSR payroll.
We probably need to offload some players (even if it’s those out on loan moving permanently).
Ings, for example, is on £100,000+ a week. And he’s utterly awful.
We need more pace. We need more movement. In every area of the pitch.
A couple of loan signings, bring back a couple of players out on loan and promote some youth would sort 80% of our problems.
Yep - agree with that, LJC. It’s going to have to be the way forward. Late-era Moyes, Lope and Steidten have created a mess that will take any decent manager at least a couple of windows to unpick.
The situation with the centre backs is an emergency. They are both poor.
Whatever way we look at it, it was a lot a lot better but with massive glaring issues that need addressing.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:17
by Metroplex
Absolute choker losing Jimmy, the little fella was head and shoulders over anyone else on the pitch. Bad luck all round in truth,
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:16
by Any Old Iron
Despite that shit result I can honestly say that for the first time in years I’m feeling optimistic about our future.
As we all know Flop has left us with a lot of duds, but from what I saw before those two injuries and the fake corner, Potter had performed wonders in the few hours he had with the players.
He’ll need at least two windows to sort things out and Sullivan is going to have to pay to make up for his mistakes but I now have confidence in Potter and look forward to what he can achieve.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:16
by goose
You could see signs of improvement before the subs.
#9 has to be a priority now after the way Fullkrug went down.
Then I guess we have to shift one or two & try and get a loan deal for centre midfield.
at the moment I’d happily have Aguerd & JWP back.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:15
by Jaan Kenbrovin
Was a good effort. Scarles looked comfortable as left back and that first half was as good as we have played all season.
Switching to a back 5 cost us though. Should have brought on Soler or Guilherme. Instead we invited pressure and crumbled.
Fabianski, Ings, Cresswell, Coufal, Soucek and both the CB’s are simply not good enough. Add to that 3 crocked strikers and we are in trouble if we don’t make a couple of key signings in January.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:14
by Cambiron
Well, at least we were 20% faster and more determined while buggering it up.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:14
by Leavemyarcelona
Ladysmith wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:01
Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 21:58
Seen enough to conclude.
Potter is a big big improvement
Squad is wafer thin.
Get the checkbook out Sullivan
Really? we offered absolute nothing in that second half
Tottenham are playing Sunday
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:13
by Sir Alf
Players looked more comfortable and seemed to understand their roles.
Lack of squad depth cost us the game. Soon as Summerville went off we were weakened. Fullkrug going off too major blow in such a weak squad.
as mentioned, Potter was never going to do much to solve the issues in midfield ( lack of pace, athleticism) and while we more compact and much better out of possession, inevitably players tire or get injured and we have no one to replace them.
Aside from the awful feigning injury that Paqueta does, he was one of our better players. Scarles vwry encouraging 60-70 mins and AWB solid. Kilman was solid but needs pace alongside. Both he and Stavris tired too and we are asking Coufal to be a 3rd CB as we had no other options. Soucek worked hard and was ok.
Biggest disappointment again for me was Kudus. Anonymous for much of the game and teally missing Vowen presence.
Nothing learned about the players like Ings, Coufal and Cresswell. They are simply below the standards needed in the Premiership now.
Potter’s challenge is now to field a team fir Fulham able to compete and create chances.
Overall some encouragement mixed with confirmation of urgent need for reinforcements to be able to see out the season
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:12
by southbankbornnbred
LJC wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:08
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:05
To those demanding the chequebook, we have to be a bit careful: we’ve got a lot of ageing, shit, injured or out-on-loan players taking up a big chunk of our PSR payroll.
We probably need to offload some players (even if it’s those out on loan moving permanently).
Ings, for example, is on £100,000+ a week. And he’s utterly awful.
We need more pace. We need more movement. In every area of the pitch.
A couple of loan signings, bring back a couple of players out on loan and promote some youth would sort 80% of our problems.
Yep - agree with that, LJC. It’s going to have to be the way forward. Late-era Moyes, Lope and Steidten have created a mess that will take any decent manager at least a couple of windows to unpick.
The situation with the centre backs is an emergency. They are both poor.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:11
by Mex Martillo
Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:05
Mex Martillo" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:03
Fucking 5 at the back to defend 0-1
Fucking shit
Indeed. As I posted on the Potter thread. Worrying sigs that Potter can't manage games when the opposition wakes up. Sit back and wait to concede seemed to be the tactic. A la Moyes and a load of deadbeat previous managers before him.
I can see why this guy has a lowly 32% win percentage as a top flight manager.
Then returned to a back 4 with what looked like 4-4-2. C!early showed he was wrong and with a bit more time we would have equalised. Shame. Yep lost it with Moysiah move.
Early days, but very disappointing to go out after being 1 up and very in control.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:11
by Leavemyarcelona
So fucking frustrating this team. For me game changed when Summerville & Fullkrock went off. Kudus ok first half then non existent. not great, Soucek was Soucek. Paqueta good first half, embarassing performance second half. Defending piss poor. Scarles the only positive to come out of this game.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:10
by threesixty
Maybe it’s a blessing this one. In terms of forcing the clubs hand.
We won’t survive this league without Fullkrug, Bowen and that “striker” Ings… they’ll have to spend big in Jan.
if Summervilles injury is serious we’d probably drop like a stone if we don’t reinforce this squad.
the 1st half showed what we are capable of. The second half showed what will happen in the league if we don’t fix this now.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:09
by southbankbornnbred
Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:05
Mex Martillo" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:03
Fucking 5 at the back to defend 0-1
Fucking shit
Indeed. As I posted on the Potter thread. Worrying sigs that Potter can't manage games when the opposition wakes up. Sit back and wait to concede seemed to be the tactic. A la Moyes and a load of deadbeat previous managers before him.
I can see why this guy has a lowly 32% win percentage as a top flight manager.
Oh get over yourself, COYI: the guy had two hours with the players yesterday. That’s it. There are no “worrying signs” that have anything to do with Potter.
That defeat tonight was on Lope, Moyes and Steidten who, between them, bought some poor players (expensively) we now need to offload.
Re: Aston Villa vs West Ham United | FA Cup 3rd Round | 10.1.25 | Predictions & Match Thread
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 22:08
by LJC
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 22:05
To those demanding the chequebook, we have to be a bit careful: we’ve got a lot of ageing, shit, injured or out-on-loan players taking up a big chunk of our PSR payroll.
We probably need to offload some players (even if it’s those out on loan moving permanently).
Ings, for example, is on £100,000+ a week. And he’s utterly awful.
We need more pace. We need more movement. In every area of the pitch.
A couple of loan signings, bring back a couple of players out on loan and promote some youth would sort 80% of our problems.