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May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 11:16

threesixty wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 10:37 What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.



 

"It’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesn't want to create loads of chances. He doesn't want quick transitions. He doesn't want more direct football at all."

Sorry but I think that's crap. To actually believe and say that a coach wants us to play slow boring football is just rubbish. Of course, Potter doesn't want that. In interviews he has even said he wants us to play positive, attacking football with flair, which is what West Ham were once known for.

What he is struggling with is how to get to that. He has a method but its too slow in the process. He may not even have the ability to get there. Yes, he wants a solid back line with one or two solid holding players, but he clearly and obviously wants wide players and attackers to play positive attacking football. 

Yes, its frustrating and infuriating. But to say Potter actually wants and is actively coaching slow boring football is just letting your emotions cloud your logic. 

Didn’t Potter have Caicedo & McAllister as his Brighton midfield ?
Hard work , energy , control
I cant believe he wants a couple of slugs like Rodriquez & JWP in there by choice
Though he does keep picking them
And we won’t beat anyone if that continues 

threesixty wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 10:37 What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.



 

 

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 10:28

goose wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:54 Even if you assumed the loaning club were covering 100% of the wages of those players (they weren’t btw), we still shouldn’t have any barriers in regards to paying wages. It’s just more propaganda from the club.

I won’t argue that selling players helps, but loaning them with no obligation to buy is just nonsensical.

great bit of business for Jose though. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him rock up here one day, he’s got Sullivan written all over him.

Mourinho would scare the shit out of Sullivan. He'll never appoint someone so outspoken who would not hesitate to publicly call out his absolute bullshit and paint him as the incompetent, penny pinching shyster which is Sullivan's biggest fear. He'd probably openly dare him to fire him as well. It would be fucking entertaining. It would be an absolute nightmare for them. They'd never ever be able to succeed with their smear tactics against him. I'd love it. One of the big reasons Bilic went was he started to call out their bullshit,.but he's not anywhere near as powerful a voice as Jose.

'I wanted this player and this player, and the owner purposely shot down the deal and then tried to give me these players I don't want because of his agent friend. He promised me everything and this and delivered nothing.'

I'd love it if that happens. LOVE IT.

 

 

threesixty wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 10:37 What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.


 

Moyes MK II. BS wet dream continues as we all suffer the nightmare.

What scares me is that even if we get the midfielders in, it’s not actually what Potter wants at all. He actually wants what we are seeing. He doesnt want to create loads of chances. He doesnt want quick transitions. He doesnt want more direct football at all.

It’s all starting to dawn on me like some horror movie when you get to the final scene and you realise whats happening! 

JWP and Guido are not bugs, they are features of the program. 
He basically thinks his wing backs are the only people that should move forward at any pace, everything else is slow and controlled. And he wants the new keeper simply so he can extend all the passing in our own half and keep the ball more without threatening anything.

He literally would be ecstatic to win all his games 1-0, or draw.

We are so fucked.

 

goose wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:54 Even if you assumed the loaning club were covering 100% of the wages of those players (they weren’t btw), we still shouldn’t have any barriers in regards to paying wages. It’s just more propaganda from the club.

I won’t argue that selling players helps, but loaning them with no obligation to buy is just nonsensical.

great bit of business for Jose though. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him rock up here one day, he’s got Sullivan written all over him.

Rossal wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 10:00

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:55

Rossal wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:48

 

Why?  Genuine question.... 

Least Dyche would have a style of play and would be a bit inspiring. I would hate the Dyche appointment, but i reckon i'd back him to get more points than Potter will with this squad over 38 games. I also reckon they'd show more fight and desire playing for Dyche

Potter has been here months, he has signings, he has changed the formation,  and we're still absolutely fucking dreadful. Players want out, thats how inspired they've been by his pre season. 

Like Lopetuigui, Its starting to feel like  'well they can't be any worse can they?'  

 

He has signings? He has Mads and Diouf, Wilson was not his signing and nor was Todibo.

He has given a list of targets to the club but they won't pay for them.

The fact you think Dyche is an upgrade is rather sad, we wanted Moyes gone because his style of football was so dull and you want to replace him with Moyes 2.0..........grind out some 1-0 wins.

I would rather be relegated and start again with a new younger, hungrier manager......and new owners.

But you just told me that they wont get a young hungry manager? 

I doubt Sullivan sells if we drop, he will use the parachute money to try and come back up and then maybe sell. 

so for me i'd rather stay up with Dyche then go down with Potter. For me personally out stadium in the championship will be awful, we dont have a spine that we can rely on to stay and i don't back the owners getting in the right manager or being good enough in the transfer market to build a promotion capable squad. 

goose wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 10:11

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:44

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:41 If we "have no money" and cant buy until we sell why the cսnt are we discussing loaning alvarez to febernace.  That's just weapons grade stupid

I fucking hate supporting West ham sometimes 

 

I have no issue with a loan to buy deal plus it get's his wages off the bill and frees up some more money for a new signing or three.

That’s because you’re an idiot.

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:44

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:41 If we "have no money" and cant buy until we sell why the cսnt are we discussing loaning alvarez to febernace.  That's just weapons grade stupid

I fucking hate supporting West ham sometimes 

 

I have no issue with a loan to buy deal plus it get's his wages off the bill and frees up some more money for a new signing or three.

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 10:02 There is talk of Eze to Tottenham being close so could imagine they might look at Paqueta as a replacement 
Being picked off by Palace … what a time to be alive

 

Potter and Macaulay  ( lets put aside whether Potter is competent for a moment because like it or not he aint going anywhere before the transfer window shuts and probably not before Oct) have made clear we need a number 6 and number 8. The “legs” , energy, pace requirement. We all agree on that. So its now about getting quality for the here and now.

We have left it very late in the window as many of us predicted Sulivan would but this Makua looks like a great player at 20 years old as the young player we need who should hopefully appreciate in value.  We have to hope Macaulay has the data analytics and stats to back up our “eyes” that saw a very good no 17 laying for Lille the other week. 

Im not totally against Bissouma as the number 6 on loan initially. Yes he does give off a “billy big bollox” vibe ( and was accused of abusing a young woman but not proven is hardly a great character reference ) but he was brilliant at Brighton albeit 2 years younger in a Potter system. He would complement the younger Makua with his experience of the Premiership. He’s still quick and strong. I watched him at the back end of last season in a few games. The issue with him is injuries. He’s had a fair few since joing Spuds. But we need to mitigate the risk and time of Makau or a younger player getting up to Prem speed with a “ready now” player with proven quality. Bissouma looks like the best of whats left available with 2 weeks left to fit that requirement?

The bigger risk is Sullivan “shithousery” on negotiations and deal making now with only 2 weeks. It seems he can only do one thing at a time so is probably more focused on getting Alvarez’s wages off the books and some loan fee dosh in asap before he will start on getting players in. High risk we get no one 

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:44

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:41 If we "have no money" and cant buy until we sell why the cսnt are we discussing loaning alvarez to febernace.  That's just weapons grade stupid

I fucking hate supporting West ham sometimes 

 

I have no issue with a loan to buy deal plus it get's his wages off the bill and frees up some more money for a new signing or three.

There is talk of Eze to Tottenham being close so could imagine they might look at Paqueta as a replacement 
Being picked off by Palace … what a time to be alive

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:55

Rossal wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:48

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:40

Have a long hard think about what you just wrote and then consider this, if Potter gets sacked who will be his replacement? Don't think for a minute it will be some young up and coming manager who wants to play attractive football because it won't be. It will be Dyche or Cooper.

I'd rather stick with Potter for now.

 

Why?  Genuine question.... 

Least Dyche would have a style of play and would be a bit inspiring. I would hate the Dyche appointment, but i reckon i'd back him to get more points than Potter will with this squad over 38 games. I also reckon they'd show more fight and desire playing for Dyche

Potter has been here months, he has signings, he has changed the formation,  and we're still absolutely fucking dreadful. Players want out, thats how inspired they've been by his pre season. 

Like Lopetuigui, Its starting to feel like  'well they can't be any worse can they?'  

 

He has signings? He has Mads and Diouf, Wilson was not his signing and nor was Todibo.

He has given a list of targets to the club but they won't pay for them.

The fact you think Dyche is an upgrade is rather sad, we wanted Moyes gone because his style of football was so dull and you want to replace him with Moyes 2.0..........grind out some 1-0 wins.

I would rather be relegated and start again with a new younger, hungrier manager......and new owners.

Rossal wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:48

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:40

Rossal wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:36 we're now fucked unless Sullivan sacks Potter pronto 

IF we are a bit strapped for cash why would you waste any funds supporting a manager and getting in players for a bloke who will be gone in a month or two anyway. 

Its an absolute shit show whatever way you look at it 

Have a long hard think about what you just wrote and then consider this, if Potter gets sacked who will be his replacement? Don't think for a minute it will be some young up and coming manager who wants to play attractive football because it won't be. It will be Dyche or Cooper.

I'd rather stick with Potter for now.

 

Why?  Genuine question.... 

Least Dyche would have a style of play and would be a bit inspiring. I would hate the Dyche appointment, but i reckon i'd back him to get more points than Potter will with this squad over 38 games. I also reckon they'd show more fight and desire playing for Dyche

Potter has been here months, he has signings, he has changed the formation,  and we're still absolutely fucking dreadful. Players want out, thats how inspired they've been by his pre season. 

Like Lopetuigui, Its starting to feel like  'well they can't be any worse can they?'  

 

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 06:45
We need mobile physical midfielders. I’d even take Bissouma on loan after he has fallen out of favour at Tottenham 
Was good at Brighton but has never really fit there
Presume Potter knows him and what he can do



 

 

Even if you assumed the loaning club were covering 100% of the wages of those players (they weren’t btw), we still shouldn’t have any barriers in regards to paying wages. It’s just more propaganda from the club.

I won’t argue that selling players helps, but loaning them with no obligation to buy is just nonsensical.

great bit of business for Jose though. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him rock up here one day, he’s got Sullivan written all over him.

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:40

Rossal wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:36 we're now fucked unless Sullivan sacks Potter pronto 

IF we are a bit strapped for cash why would you waste any funds supporting a manager and getting in players for a bloke who will be gone in a month or two anyway. 

Its an absolute shit show whatever way you look at it 

Have a long hard think about what you just wrote and then consider this, if Potter gets sacked who will be his replacement? Don't think for a minute it will be some young up and coming manager who wants to play attractive football because it won't be. It will be Dyche or Cooper.

I'd rather stick with Potter for now.

 

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 22:25

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 21:09 Fuck sake, I've been to the school of Sullivan Economics with my sums a bit there adding up..

120 - Ings
100 - Antonio 
100 - Kudus 
80 - Fabianski 
80 - Soler
60 - Coufal
60 - Cresswell 
​​​
=£600k

80 - Hermansen
80 - Diouf 
40 - Walker-Peters 
10+ - Wilson

=£210k

All looks solid to me, Massive. But you do also have to add Aguerd, Cornet and Ward-Prowse back onto the wage bill. They were mostly off it last season - hence we had the capacity to bring Soler expensively etc.

I won’t pretend to be an expert on our accounts. But I can believe 100% the idea that we’re a bit of a financial shower. PSR, cash flow…whatever the reason, I can believe our board - which overspends on shite, under-invests in young talent etc and rewards crap agents - is not covering itself in glory.

  

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:41 If we "have no money" and cant buy until we sell why the cսnt are we discussing loaning alvarez to febernace.  That's just weapons grade stupid

I fucking hate supporting West ham sometimes 

If we "have no money" and cant buy until we sell why the cսnt are we discussing loaning alvarez to febernace.  That's just weapons grade stupid

I fucking hate supporting West ham sometimes 

Rossal wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 09:36 we're now fucked unless Sullivan sacks Potter pronto 

IF we are a bit strapped for cash why would you waste any funds supporting a manager and getting in players for a bloke who will be gone in a month or two anyway. 

Its an absolute shit show whatever way you look at it 

If we can get rid of Alvarez, Paqueta, Rodriguez and JWP in the window I'd consider that a great success.

Then get the lad from Lille in plus Fernandes and Cresswell and I'd be thrilled.

*** It won't happen though ***