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Posted: **26 May 2025, 20:02**

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence.

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
James Trafford | GK | Burnley
Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
James McAtee | AM | Man City
Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
John Victor | GK | Botofogo
Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
Nga Makou | CM | Lille
Quinten Timber | CM
Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
Brad Dolaghan | Released
Dondre Abraham | Released
Mehmet Halim | Released
Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
Michail Antonio | Released
Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
Emerson | Marseille | £1m
Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:56**

RBshorty wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 10:18
As some guy in a movie once said. "It ain't about the Money. It's about sending a Message.!" And in this case. About who sending the message. Kieran Maguire.

Someone who.
A. Has no skin in the game. Regarding us.
And
B. Knows his fucking Onions. When it comes to Football finance.

Is. Sratching his head about this. That in its self is worrying. Especially if it's from the same company that had Everton over the barrel. And was fleecing them.!

I don't know anything about this Kieran Maguire but he's quoted as saying:

“West Ham borrow from Rights and Media Funding Limited, a company with no employees, hardly any assets apart from loans to companies and which owes about £290m itself to creditors. I asked Peter Andre what he thought of this and he said “That’s more mysterious than the mysterious girl in my song Mysterious Girl…mate”.”

This company is literally set up to borrow money from various sources and lend to football clubs. It ain't a supermarket. They ain't going to have a load of employees or assets. As for them owing about £290m - he might also have mentioned that currently, and not coincidentally, they are also owed about £290m. This is what they do - borrow and loan money and charge a lot of interest.

Now I'm not a financial expert, like this bloke apparently is, nor an expert on Peter Andre either, but I really don't see anything mysterious here whatsoever. Apparently we've borrowed from them before, as have Everton, Forest and various Spanish clubs.

I wouldn't be surprised if this RMFL company might be a bit dodgy, at least regarding the paying of tax and how much interest they charge, but this doesn't have much to do with that bullshit Gonzo article, where as usual he gets everything mixed up, because he's an idiot.

The only real question here is, how much interest do they charge and could we have got a cheaper line of credit elsewhere?

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:48**

Bit touchy, son.

You haven't really watched him play, have you?

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:47**

FFS, our club is run by utter amateurs, for example:

Forest - Capacity 30,455. Promoted 2022. 4 Points deduction for breaching PSR in 2024
Sell Elanga for £55m
Buy 2 England U-21 Internationals in James McAtee and Omari Hutchinson for combined £67.5m

West Ham - Capacity 62,500. Promoted 2012. Winners of European Conference League.
Sell Kudus for £55m
Get 2 free transfers in Callum Wilson and Kyle Walker Peters.

Oh, and by the way how does a newly promoted side like Sunderland spend £150m+ on new players.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:29**

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 10:15
dealcanvey wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 10:09
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 21:29 2 good young players signed by Forest, I’m amazed they didn’t come in for JWP after his success there last year.

Mcatee is a big miss imo. Especially at them levels.

last year we loaned JWP to Forest as deemed we were above them and he was surplus.

hes now our vice captain and Forest have leap frogged us in terms of quality and being seen as an attractive destination.

A lot changes in football after just a year.

What is it about McAtee you think we have missed out on?

He is a slow left winger. Exactly what we don't need.

Why ask for my opinion if you're going to give yours as if its a statement of fact?

Even putting writing in bold. Weirdo.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:27**

RBshorty wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 10:18
Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 09:45
RBshorty wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 19:50 We’re in shit here folks.! Gonzo just released a video saying we have just got a £200 million war chest. From a unknown loan company.! This is fucking bad folks.

It's not a £200m war chest for fuck's sake. It's a credit facility of up to £145m. So if we need to quickly borrow any amount for cash flow purposes we can get it from them. It's not an unknown loan company either. They specialise in lending to football clubs and have leant billions over the years, notably to Everton.

As some guy in a movie once said. "It ain't about the Money. It's about sending a Message.!" And in this case. About who sending the message. Kieran Maguire.

Someone who.
A. Has no skin in the game. Regarding us.
And
B. Knows his fucking Onions. When it comes to Football finance.

Is. Sratching his head about this. That in its self is worrying. Especially if it's from the same company that had Everton over the barrel. And was fleecing them.!

Everton- another horrifically run club just like us. Two big fat bloated corpses face down in the mud being stepped over by the three B's, Palace, Forest, Fulham, Villa. To be grouped with them in a situation like this is sickening. Both clubs have been run appallingly to have this happen, given their size and resource.

Only difference is they've just built a really good new stadium which could be the first step to lead to them climbing out the other side of the pit we are both in before too long.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:21**

Of course he does. Like every other billionaire.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:18**

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 10:13
eusebiovic wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 09:33
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 09:08 How many 'lucky' self made UK born billionaires are there?d si

That's all well and good...but whatever the myriad of ways he made his money to enable him to be successful at business I don't begrudge him at all. He can buy as many bespoke, self designed white Italian leather sofas as he wants...even if they do still end up looking like something from The Land of Leather. He's earnt the right to spend his money how he wants. Nobody with a semi functioning brain is disputing the fact.

Conventional business sense has very little to do with unconventional football business sense and it's very clear that the ability to do one very successfully doesn't mean the other will follow suit.

He ain't putting any of his own money into WH he is loading the club with unsustainable debt which will require an Abramovich or Sheikh Mansour type to write it off should that ever happen. So he ain't stupid in that sense. Which is why I refer to the football side of the operation as the Kenneth Bates school of economic science. He's relying on somebody else to clear the tab.

There's no excuse for the football recruitment side of the operation to still resemble St.Andrews circa 1993 though.
That can clearly be MASSIVELY improved upon.

It's really not asking for too much at this stage FFS

I can't wait till he no longer runs this club. But from his point of view, from a business perspective, he's absolutely smashed it again. That's just the reality.

Yep, I'll give him that. And deep down that's all he ever cared about, the cretin.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:18**

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 09:45
RBshorty wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 19:50 We’re in shit here folks.! Gonzo just released a video saying we have just got a £200 million war chest. From a unknown loan company.! This is fucking bad folks.

It's not a £200m war chest for fuck's sake. It's a credit facility of up to £145m. So if we need to quickly borrow any amount for cash flow purposes we can get it from them. It's not an unknown loan company either. They specialise in lending to football clubs and have leant billions over the years, notably to Everton.

As some guy in a movie once said. "It ain't about the Money. It's about sending a Message.!" And in this case. About who sending the message. Kieran Maguire.

Someone who.
A. Has no skin in the game. Regarding us.
And
B. Knows his fucking Onions. When it comes to Football finance.

Is. Sratching his head about this. That in its self is worrying. Especially if it's from the same company that had Everton over the barrel. And was fleecing them.!

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:17**

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 05:51 You've got a point, but let's face it, if right now we were at -£125m net spend like Bournemouth or even -£5m like Brentford then people would be going apeshit and accusing Sullivan of pocketing the money, not praising the club for buying low and selling high. And really you can't compare a free transfer like Callum Wilson with someone like Ouattara who cost £20m, as if it's an either/or situation.

Not if we had trust and faith in our owner/decision makers that they were using money in the best way for the club be it reinvesting in the team or other infrastructure, which Bournemouth and Brentford have clearly just demonstrated they are doing. They are making money from the football side of the club which is sustaining the club overall without so far any negative effect on results. If they lose a player, a player is ready to take their place. They have money in the bank in case they need it, instead of a collection of fucking payday loans with high interest to draw against.

And you're right, you cannot compare us buying Wilson with them buying Outtara because we are miles from a position where we could buy him, and they are miles from a position where they have to stoop to getting in some broken down old shit who has openly mocked their club in the past as a backhander for a parasitic agent mate of the owner because they are so badly run they cannot afford anything else. You're either well run like them so you can make these purchases, or you're embarrassingly badly run like us, so you HAVE to make dreadful signings which don't even improve the team like Callum Wilson.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:15**

dealcanvey wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 10:09
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 21:29 2 good young players signed by Forest, I’m amazed they didn’t come in for JWP after his success there last year.

Mcatee is a big miss imo. Especially at them levels.

last year we loaned JWP to Forest as deemed we were above them and he was surplus.

hes now our vice captain and Forest have leap frogged us in terms of quality and being seen as an attractive destination.

A lot changes in football after just a year.

What is it about McAtee you think we have missed out on?

He is a slow left winger. Exactly what we don't need.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:13**

eusebiovic wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 09:33
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 09:08 How many 'lucky' self made UK born billionaires are there?d si

That's all well and good...but whatever the myriad of ways he made his money to enable him to be successful at business I don't begrudge him at all. He can buy as many bespoke, self designed white Italian leather sofas as he wants...even if they do still end up looking like something from The Land of Leather. He's earnt the right to spend his money how he wants. Nobody with a semi functioning brain is disputing the fact.

Conventional business sense has very little to do with unconventional football business sense and it's very clear that the ability to do one very successfully doesn't mean the other will follow suit.

He ain't putting any of his own money into WH he is loading the club with unsustainable debt which will require an Abramovich or Sheikh Mansour type to write it off should that ever happen. So he ain't stupid in that sense. Which is why I refer to the football side of the operation as the Kenneth Bates school of economic science. He's relying on somebody else to clear the tab.

There's no excuse for the football recruitment side of the operation to still resemble St.Andrews circa 1993 though.
That can clearly be MASSIVELY improved upon.

It's really not asking for too much at this stage FFS

No one, far as I have seen, is disputing the fact that the way he runs the club, is shit for us fans.

However, plenty do diminish his own personal story of becoming a self made billionaire. Someone has called him Del Trotter a few posts above ffs. You don't earn that much money on a whim and a prayer.

I can't wait till he no longer runs this club. But from his point of view, from a business perspective, he's absolutely smashed it again. That's just the reality.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 10:09**

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 21:29 2 good young players signed by Forest, I’m amazed they didn’t come in for JWP after his success there last year.

Mcatee is a big miss imo. Especially at them levels.

last year we loaned JWP to Forest as deemed we were above them and he was surplus.

hes now our vice captain and Forest have leap frogged us in terms of quality and being seen as an attractive destination.

A lot changes in football after just a year.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 09:45**

RBshorty wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 19:50 We’re in shit here folks.! Gonzo just released a video saying we have just got a £200 million war chest. From a unknown loan company.! This is fucking bad folks.

It's not a £200m war chest for fuck's sake. It's a credit facility of up to £145m. So if we need to quickly borrow any amount for cash flow purposes we can get it from them. It's not an unknown loan company either. They specialise in lending to football clubs and have leant billions over the years, notably to Everton.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 09:33**

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 09:08 How many 'lucky' self made UK born billionaires are there?d si

That's all well and good...but whatever the myriad of ways he made his money to enable him to be successful at business I don't begrudge him at all. He can buy as many bespoke, self designed white Italian leather sofas as he wants...even if they do still end up looking like something from The Land of Leather. He's earnt the right to spend his money how he wants. Nobody with a semi functioning brain is disputing the fact.

Conventional business sense has very little to do with unconventional football business sense and it's very clear that the ability to do one very successfully doesn't mean the other will follow suit.

He ain't putting any of his own money into WH he is loading the club with unsustainable debt which will require an Abramovich or Sheikh Mansour type to write it off should that ever happen. So he ain't stupid in that sense. Which is why I refer to the football side of the operation as the Kenneth Bates school of economic science. He's relying on somebody else to clear the tab.

There's no excuse for the football recruitment side of the operation to still resemble St.Andrews circa 1993 though.
That can clearly be MASSIVELY improved upon.

It's really not asking for too much at this stage FFS

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 09:08**

How many 'lucky' self made UK born billionaires are there?

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 08:13**

RBshorty wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 19:50 We’re in shit here folks.! Gonzo just released a video saying we have just got a £200 million war chest. From a unknown loan company.! This is fucking bad folks.

The mind boggles...I wonder who has underwritten that?

More importantly, will our owner just carrying on with the same old tired throw a plate of spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks football recruitment policy.

The Ken Bates School of Economic Science

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 07:45**

Ah, OK. That makes sense (re Alvarez)

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 07:45**

I imagine there will be a couple of players coming in before the deadline and a couple going out. I have no idea who and unlike the YouTube “ experts “ who think they are in the know I won’t make bullshit up.

Tomorrow the midfield will be slow but we might get away with it against Sunderland but long term we won’t

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 07:27**

A lot of talk about Leverkusen wanting Alvarez to replace Granit Xhaka, with their new manager ten Hag having coached him at Ajax.

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 07:20**

First mention of impending Alvarez exit by Fabrizio Romano... at least the first I've seen

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 06:00**

Right on all counts there Scorch, however can you imagine the meltdown on here if we were paying £43m for Ouattara?

Posted: **15 Aug 2025, 05:51**

You've got a point, but let's face it, if right now we were at -£125m net spend like Bournemouth or even -£5m like Brentford then people would be going apeshit and accusing Sullivan of pocketing the money, not praising the club for buying low and selling high. And really you can't compare a free transfer like Callum Wilson with someone like Ouattara who cost £20m, as if it's an either/or situation.

Posted: **14 Aug 2025, 23:40**

Brentford buying Ouattara for 42 million from Bournemouth.

Embarrassing for us twice.

Firstly yet another 'small' club with more spending power than us (Thanks to making almost 100 million in the transfer market this summer)
Secondly, Bournemouth absolutely raking it in- 200 million this summer. What a reward for their talent spotting and coaching staff. They can retool three times over with that money. Imagine being some braindead fucker who thinks buying shit like Callum Wilson is a better move than investing in young talent.

Posted: **14 Aug 2025, 22:05**

threesixty wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 22:02
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 21:32 It’s embarrassing how many levels beneath these teams we are now, and not a pot to piss in while they are signing good young players for good money and Sullivan is wringing his fingers over opening his dusty old fucking wallet.

From being nowhere in comparison not three seasons ago Forest are light years past us.

I didnt realise how middle class David Sullivan actually is. Really weird. Apparently, son of an RAF service man, grammar school boy and read economics at Queen Mary. When hardly anyone went to university at all. Strange that he ended up a pornographer and "del-boy tribute act" lol.

He's always been a Fraud from birth.

Posted: **14 Aug 2025, 22:02**

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 21:32 It’s embarrassing how many levels beneath these teams we are now, and not a pot to piss in while they are signing good young players for good money and Sullivan is wringing his fingers over opening his dusty old fucking wallet.

From being nowhere in comparison not three seasons ago Forest are light years past us.

I didnt realise how middle class David Sullivan actually is. Really weird. Apparently, son of an RAF service man, grammar school boy and read economics at Queen Mary. When hardly anyone went to university at all. Strange that he ended up a pornographer and "del-boy tribute act" lol.

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