May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.
Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?
Window this close season comes in two parts:
Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September
We should be more like Palace and find players in the £20m bracket. Surely this is why we are paying Macauley the big bucks? We’ve had our fingers burnt far too often paying over the odds for players. Sure, Fernandes might go on to be a £70m player, but right now he is £25-30m.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 20:00
by 9898
The one thing that's flcwftain is that history will be very, very kind to Steiden.
Very, very good at his job and a real loss.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 19:55
by Jaan Kenbrovin
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 19:36
We had a different manager then.
Of course, hindsight is a wonderful thing, and our owners are shit.
But if the current manager thinks he'll transform us, then it will be money well spent.
But something tells me you are going to be fuming about every single thing to do with West Ham, Jaan, so yeah, let's agree, it's horrendous business.
Whatever next to moan about...
No I just see it as bad business. The same as when I pointed out 27m on Aguerd who went for 4m 2 years before was bad business. And spending 45m on Kilman was terrible business.
You know, the sort of thing you end up being critical of eventually.
Vexed wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 18:31
I guess when your transfer strategy is so bad that you leave the most important buy until days before the season starts and then broadcast to the world how desperate we are to sign a midfielder, then you can't really be too surprised when selling clubs try to pull your pants down. We've done it to ourselves again. The business genius of Sully.
However, nobody ever accepts the first offer on the table, remember how outraged we were when the skullcaps offered a paltry 50m for Kudus followed by the complete capitulation only days later for a few pennies more? It's a negotiation. Southampton don't think they're getting 50m any more than we thought we were getting 85m for Kudus. However they're not quite as desperate or pathetic as Sully so we won't be getting a bargain.
What I want to know is when is McCauley going to start earning his fucking money with his data (yawn) because it looks like he does most of his scouting on Match Of The Day and Sky Sports News. Where are the gems you cսnt?
Assuming he and Potter are still in a job, the gems would likely come a little further down the line. Such is the state of the squad we’re having to pay decent sized amounts on established players to hopefully make an impact immediately. Caught in Sullivan’s interminable wheel of short sightedness. Best hope is they make a decent fist of it this season, ship out more of the deadwood and start getting in a few of these young players to start as squad members not required to drop right in and make an impact. We are so far behind we’ve got a lot to do to catch up with most other functional teams. We don’t even have a fully formed first XI, let alone squad.
You could be right but Potter's decisions are not really helping his cause if longevity is his aim. Got one consistently high performing player, yeah let's play him out of position! Got fifty odd million wrapped up in two other wingers too - but let's not play with any wingers. Midfield was awful all last season - let's wait until four days before the start of the season to bid on a midfielder! We're terribly slow and injury prone up top - let's not prioritise a striker and then bring a really washed up one in eventually! It's been fucking mental behaviour.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 19:09
by El Scorchio
Vexed wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 18:31
I guess when your transfer strategy is so bad that you leave the most important buy until days before the season starts and then broadcast to the world how desperate we are to sign a midfielder, then you can't really be too surprised when selling clubs try to pull your pants down. We've done it to ourselves again. The business genius of Sully.
However, nobody ever accepts the first offer on the table, remember how outraged we were when the skullcaps offered a paltry 50m for Kudus followed by the complete capitulation only days later for a few pennies more? It's a negotiation. Southampton don't think they're getting 50m any more than we thought we were getting 85m for Kudus. However they're not quite as desperate or pathetic as Sully so we won't be getting a bargain.
What I want to know is when is McCauley going to start earning his fucking money with his data (yawn) because it looks like he does most of his scouting on Match Of The Day and Sky Sports News. Where are the gems you cսnt?
Assuming he and Potter are still in a job, the gems would likely come a little further down the line. Such is the state of the squad we’re having to pay decent sized amounts on established players to hopefully make an impact immediately. Caught in Sullivan’s interminable wheel of short sightedness. Best hope is they make a decent fist of it this season, ship out more of the deadwood and start getting in a few of these young players to start as squad members not required to drop right in and make an impact. We are so far behind we’ve got a lot to do to catch up with most other functional teams. We don’t even have a fully formed first XI, let alone squad.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 18:31
by Vexed
I guess when your transfer strategy is so bad that you leave the most important buy until days before the season starts and then broadcast to the world how desperate we are to sign a midfielder, then you can't really be too surprised when selling clubs try to pull your pants down. We've done it to ourselves again. The business genius of Sully.
However, nobody ever accepts the first offer on the table, remember how outraged we were when the skullcaps offered a paltry 50m for Kudus followed by the complete capitulation only days later for a few pennies more? It's a negotiation. Southampton don't think they're getting 50m any more than we thought we were getting 85m for Kudus. However they're not quite as desperate or pathetic as Sully so we won't be getting a bargain.
What I want to know is when is McCauley going to start earning his fucking money with his data (yawn) because it looks like he does most of his scouting on Match Of The Day and Sky Sports News. Where are the gems you cսnt?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 18:22
by Lee Trundle
I agree with a lot of what Geo says, and I'm about to sit down and watch his video. So I'd be interested in what he says.
£15m was the market value for Hermansen (according to those sites again), so good value, I can only see his price going up.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 18:15
by Eerie Decent
We were quoted £25mil for the keeper, got him for £15mil
We ain't paying anything like £50mil for him, but anything around £35mil would seem like good business, given how highly he's rated by those that have watched a lot of him, including the Scots lad on Hammerschat.
No one on here saying he's not worth that, have watched him nearly enough to say he isn't worth it. It's just being negative for the sake of it.
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 16:52
Their fans absolutely rave about him.
Not worth tuppence on WHO
If that's aimed at me, I'm only going the sites that value players for a living.
I can't find any that value him anywhere near as much as you and the rest of the Saints fans do.
Wasn't aimed at anyone in general.
I've no idea what he's worth, I haven't watched him enough. You seen him a fair bit?
No, which is why I can only go on what those sites suggest he's worth. FWIW I hope we sign do him, just not for anything near what they want for him. I want the manager/proper recruiting team to get the players they identify.
Given the prices chucked around, I wouldn't mind us going for that bloke from Lille based on what I saw from him at the weekend and the kind of players they can produce there.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 18:09
by Barty888
Watching highlights from Reitz and Mukau shows they can both operate as defensive midfielders and box to box. Sign them the fuck up!
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:38
by Barty888
So what Mateus Fernandes alternitives are out there?
We should sign Mukau and an alternitive "nr 8"
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:26
by Massive Attack
Not even sure Fernandes is proven yet in the Premier League after just 1 season where they were all mostly dogshit including himself failing to make a real mark.
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 16:52
Their fans absolutely rave about him.
Not worth tuppence on WHO
If that's aimed at me, I'm only going the sites that value players for a living.
I can't find any that value him anywhere near as much as you and the rest of the Saints fans do.
Wasn't aimed at anyone in general.
I've no idea what he's worth, I haven't watched him enough. You seen him a fair bit?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:26
by El Scorchio
They don't have to sell him unless he wants out. They can charge enough to put anyone off. If they sell Dibling, unless Fernandes kicks up a massive stink, he's going nowhere. Fair play to them, although I'd like them to cave.
I wish we were even halfway as obstinate. Of course it helps they weren't crying in the media they were desperate to sell players back in May like we were....
FWIW we need to strike a deal between just putting our money where our mouth is and overpaying. If we truly believe he's the player to elevate our whole team then he's worth 30-40 mill. He's so young and his value will likely just go up and up for the next five years. It's not a can't lose prospect but it's a pretty safe one. (Of course if we had good scouting we could have been looking at players like him and the guy from Lille for peanuts 12 months ago) I'd go to 40 considering his age and profile and the potential value there and obvious resale value unless he really flops. But there is of course a limit. Hope we at least try to haggle a bit rather than the classic Sullivan one and done 'We tried now here Graham have Josh Brownhill instead.'
I just hope we are working on the lad from Lille and one or two others as well so we don;t end up empty handed.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:20
by Loxford Ave
Southampton fans might rate Fernandes but they were fucking shit last season so anyone remotely decent in their team would have stood out.
£30m is a very fair offer, any more than that and we will be over paying.
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 16:17
£30m is double what he's worth.
He was £15 million last year he's 21 on a long contract and proven in our league, I'd say doubling his price is fair enough
Wouldn’t it be weird if we sold Kudus for 50m and then bought Fernandes for the same money?
Barely heard of the kid.
Strange world if we do.
I’d be looking at Ramsey tbh,
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:14
by Barty888
Fuck off Southampton 50 million you are having a laugh!
Move for Mukau from Lille instead and scout Europe for an alternitive "nr 8"
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:12
by Sir Alf
Fernandes sounds like a non starter at £50 mill because Southampton do not have PSR or any other pressure to sell. Sullivan will offer £32, then £34 million and waste time on it as his ego takes a bashing if they dont submit to “the greatest dealmaker in football” ( Gold used to quote that iirc).
Switch to European targets asap but he wont. Josh Brownhill incoming you just know it. Go for that Lille number 17 at £20 million but hope they do their research and unlike me dont just base it on one match like I have
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:12
by ragingbull
Not worth more than 17M if not jog on.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:11
by Alfs
It wasn't the £30 million bid that Southampton objected to, it was Sullies suggestion that it's paid in instalments over 3000 years.
