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Posted: **05 Jan 2020, 15:47**

Another year and another set of movies being released.

As always there are a few surprises throughout the year that come out but the big movies look to be good ones this year:

- The Gentlemen
- Jojo Rabbit
- 1917
- Uncut Gems
- Bombshell
-Bad Boys for Life
- The Lighthouse
- Just Mercy
- A Beautiful Day in the Neighbourhood
- Parasite
- Birds of Prey
- Dolittle
- Sonic the Hedgehog
- Bloodshot
- Portrait of a Lady on Fire
- Dark Waters
- Onward
- A Quiet Place: Part 2
- Mulan
- Bond: No Time to Die
- The New Mutants
- Black Widow
- Scoob!
- Fast and Furious 9
- Wonder Woman 1984
- Ghostbusters: Afterlife
- Minions: The Rise of Gru
- Tenet
- Top Gun: Maverick
- Jungle Cruise
- Morbius
- Bill & Ted Face the Music
- The King's Man
- Halloween Kills
- Eternals
- Gozilla vs. Kong
- Dune
- Coming 2 America
- West Side Story

Posted: **16 Dec 2024, 15:21**

Saw the new Venom movie which was OK.

Saw a low budget Italian horror The Well. Thought it was pretty good.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 11:40**

its rallied to 7.5 but I haven't trusted IMDB since it noticed Dead Man's shoes was 6.2 a few years back, had a look at the reviews and it was full of Americans incredulous the gangsters were jokes driving around in a clown car which is completely missing the whole point, that and they couldn't understand the accents

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 11:29**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑28 Nov 2024, 06:44 This the same Man on Fire that has a whopping 39% rating on Rotten Tomatoes?

I’ll pass, thanks.

Gets 7.7/10 on IMDB which is what I generally go by. Never trust Rotten Tomatoes

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 10:48**

Nope, not reading all that.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 10:45**

Manuel wrote: ↑28 Nov 2024, 07:32 I've used Rotten for years and personally have always found their ratings pretty much in line to what I think. IMDB is a fucking awful site, there's fuck all on there.

What goes on at Rotten Tomatoes is hilarious.

Let's start with the critics' scores.

The big studios know how to play the system, so anyone who gets on the 'All critics' list is showered with corporate largesse and gains 'access' to the film-makers and stars (and goodie bags, free tickets etc). Disney is particularly adept at this tactic, so any Disney/Pixar/Marvel/Lucasfilm product will always get insanely high 'All Critics' ratings. Someone at Disney bragged that they can buy a positive review for fifty bucks.

The 'Top Critics' are less easily bought, but are all insanely liberal, which again favours Disney whose product is uniformly and insanely woke.

As far as the audience scores are concerned, beware the 'verified ratings'. The studios, again especially Disney, are adept at influencing this score. I suspect they insist all their employees become verified users and go on the site to give positive reviews. The 'All audience' Popcornometer thing is about the only index I would take seriously.

For example - let's take the insanely woke The Marvels from which audiences stayed away in their droves.

The all critics score is 62%, reflecting the bought and paid for nature of the index. Top critics, less inclined to risk their reputations shilling for Disney, panned it and gave it it only 45%. Given that the literally nobody went to see this mess and it lost the studio upwards of $200m one can only assume they gave it extra marks for being an utter girl-boss fest.

Now, audiences do like super-hero films, especially Marvel movies, so scores are higher. The 'Verified Audience' score is a belief-defying 81%, while the 'All Audience' score, which of course includes the 'Verified' score is 64%. A bit more realistic, but still at odds with the box office.

You also have to bear in mind the fanboy wars that see Marvel fans bigging up their own team while down-voting DC's stuff and vice versa. There are far more Marvel fan-boys than DC, which is one of the reasons Marvel films come out better - the other being that most DC films have been shit.

The studios are less able to influence the audience scores for TV shows, which is probably why some Disney/Marvels offerings there are rated pretty close to zero. The funniest is Star Wars: The Acolyte - a thumping 78% from 'All critics' who loved the fanatical feminist anti-male stuff, and 18% from the audience who I presume were mostly men (as you'd expect for a fucking Stars Wars show). Amazon's Rings of Power gets some pretty bizarre scores, too. The most expensive TV show ever made - loved by the critics, hated by the audiences (where the fuck is Celeborn, why is Celebrimbor gay and why is Galadriel a mighty warrior who snogs her also gay son-in-law, Elrond AND Sauron?) and so little watched that Season Three (out of a promised five) still hasn't been green-lit.

Plus, at the behest of the studios, RT routinely remove hundreds of negative audience reviews on the pretext of racism/sexism/transphobia and other spurious isms and phobias.

RTs problem is its own success. It's become too important for the studios to ignore and they have been incapable of preventing themselves corrupting it. I would say RT is pretty good for old stuff, say further back than 7 years ago but for current and recent stuff I just go there for the laughs.

IMDB is nearly as bad as RT and Metacritic is the least worst.

RT and IMDB are both owned by studios now, by the way, so there's that to consider.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 09:33**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑28 Nov 2024, 07:35 I don't think I've seen a bad Denzel Washington film, ever.

Even his "average" ones are decent.

Don't watch Heart Condition then, you'll ruin your run

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 09:18**

Man on Fire and Book of Eli for me.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 07:38**

Inside Man is also a decent Denzel film.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 07:35**

I don't think I've seen a bad Denzel Washington film, ever.

Even his "average" ones are decent.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 07:32**

I've used Rotten for years and personally have always found their ratings pretty much in line to what I think. IMDB is a fucking awful site, there's fuck all on there.

I don't recall Man on Fire being anything great, prefer Safe House, but his best work has to be The Equalizer films.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 07:06**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑28 Nov 2024, 06:44 This the same Man on Fire that has a whopping 39% rating on Rotten Tomatoes?

I’ll pass, thanks.

I suppose anyone who goes on Rotten Tomatoes ratings. Really are Mad.?

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 06:44**

This the same Man on Fire that has a whopping 39% rating on Rotten Tomatoes?

I’ll pass, thanks.

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 03:03**

RBshorty wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 19:38
zico wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 19:00

Agreed Man on Fire directed by the late Tony Scott is Denzil's best film.
Denzil is always excellent..Man on fire is his finest IMO ?
Alas..I have zero interest in gladiator 2 because I know it's going to be a massive pile of shite

Agree with Man on Fire, although like War of the Worlds Dakota Fanning's screaming gets a bit much after a while! Also enjoyed Deja Vu, Unstoppable, The Equalizer, The Bone Collector, The Siege and Courage Under Fire. Still think his best two though are The Pelican Brief and Crimson Tide.

Re Gladiator II, not really sure if I want to watch it. Seen the previews and really surprised with the casting of Paul Mescal, just doesn't seem the have the presence of a Russel Crowe.

“You disloyal. Fool arse, bitch made Punk.!”

All them films. A not a peep about Training Day.?

good film ..just not my cup of tea.
I don't relate in any way shape or form to the brothers or the hood, so I can't relate to it

Posted: **28 Nov 2024, 02:54**

zico wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 19:00

Agreed Man on Fire directed by the late Tony Scott is Denzil's best film.
Denzil is always excellent..Man on fire is his finest IMO ?
Alas..I have zero interest in gladiator 2 because I know it's going to be a massive pile of shite

Agree with Man on Fire, although like War of the Worlds Dakota Fanning's screaming gets a bit much after a while! Also enjoyed Deja Vu, Unstoppable, The Equalizer, The Bone Collector, The Siege and Courage Under Fire. Still think his best two though are The Pelican Brief and Crimson Tide.

Re Gladiator II, not really sure if I want to watch it. Seen the previews and really surprised with the casting of Paul Mescal, just doesn't seem the have the presence of a Russel Crowe.

Good post mate
"Flight" is another one .

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 19:41**

“You disloyal. Fool arse, bitch made Punk.!”

All them films. A not a peep about Training Day.?

Oops forgot that.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 19:38**

zico wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 19:00

Agreed Man on Fire directed by the late Tony Scott is Denzil's best film.
Denzil is always excellent..Man on fire is his finest IMO ?
Alas..I have zero interest in gladiator 2 because I know it's going to be a massive pile of shite

Agree with Man on Fire, although like War of the Worlds Dakota Fanning's screaming gets a bit much after a while! Also enjoyed Deja Vu, Unstoppable, The Equalizer, The Bone Collector, The Siege and Courage Under Fire. Still think his best two though are The Pelican Brief and Crimson Tide.

Re Gladiator II, not really sure if I want to watch it. Seen the previews and really surprised with the casting of Paul Mescal, just doesn't seem the have the presence of a Russel Crowe.

“You disloyal. Fool arse, bitch made Punk.!”

All them films. A not a peep about Training Day.?

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 19:35**

Watched Megalopolis last night. That is one very strange movie. It has some really overacted cheap moments. Overly artistic to add to what is a bizarre story.

Oddly entertaining enough to have finished it. But it’s a complete wtf film you wouldn’t expect from Francis Ford Coppola.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 19:00**

Agreed Man on Fire directed by the late Tony Scott is Denzil's best film.
Denzil is always excellent..Man on fire is his finest IMO ?
Alas..I have zero interest in gladiator 2 because I know it's going to be a massive pile of shite

Agree with Man on Fire, although like War of the Worlds Dakota Fanning's screaming gets a bit much after a while! Also enjoyed Deja Vu, Unstoppable, The Equalizer, The Bone Collector, The Siege and Courage Under Fire. Still think his best two though are The Pelican Brief and Crimson Tide.

Re Gladiator II, not really sure if I want to watch it. Seen the previews and really surprised with the casting of Paul Mescal, just doesn't seem the have the presence of a Russel Crowe.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 15:42**

Jim79 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 15:34 Good to see Manuel acting true to form, keep up the good work.

Also Gank, you watch it however you want mate. If you can get it for free then please do so. Disney arent exactly known for giving money away so its not like my little girl benefits hugely from the viewership on Disney+. More happy with the idea that people will actually watch it rather than how they watch it.

Well you've had so many people kissing your ring piece, I thought I'd put up an alternative viewpoint

Jesting aside, I have a daughter myself so totally understand why you'd be proud. However, I don't watch Disney films since I'm a grown up, but I'm sure some will like it.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 15:34**

Good to see Manuel acting true to form, keep up the good work.

Also Gank, you watch it however you want mate. If you can get it for free then please do so. Disney arent exactly known for giving money away so its not like my little girl benefits hugely from the viewership on Disney+. More happy with the idea that people will actually watch it rather than how they watch it.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 11:21**

Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 02:28
AKA ERNIE" wrote: ↑23 Nov 2024, 21:09 Watched gladiator 2 last night.
Decent film but completely let down by weak as piss performance by lead actor who was appalling.

Denzil Washington was excellent though.

Denzil is always excellent..Man on fire is his finest IMO ?
Alas..I have zero interest in gladiator 2 because I know it's going to be a massive pile of shite

Agreed Man on Fire directed by the late Tony Scott is Denzil's best film.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 09:51**

Gladiator 2. Where to start. I guess if the first had never been made you think this a good movie not an excellent movie like the first was. However as there was a first this looks like a cut and paste job and not a very good one. As mention before the lead is terrible. As much charisma as a wet rag. Remember Crowe was pretty much an unknown at the time he made Gladiator and to compare..well no comparision in the acting.

Now also I'm a big fan of both Pascal and Washington but to say they were miscast is an understatement. I think Denzil thought he was in Training Day 2.

If you like some good old fighting CGIU etc on a big screen you might enjoy bits but for me it doesn't paper over the cracks.

It's bloody bad.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 02:46**

Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 02:28
AKA ERNIE" wrote: ↑23 Nov 2024, 21:09 Watched gladiator 2 last night.
Decent film but completely let down by weak as piss performance by lead actor who was appalling.

Denzil Washington was excellent though.

Denzil is always excellent..Man on fire is his finest IMO ?
Alas..I have zero interest in gladiator 2 because I know it's going to be a massive pile of shite

Gladiator 2? FMOB. Clearly is going to be shit.

Love Denzel, Safe House and Flight are two of his finest IMO.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 02:36**

Manuel wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 07:17 Fuck it, wrong thread.

Posted: **26 Nov 2024, 02:28**

AKA ERNIE" wrote: ↑23 Nov 2024, 21:09 Watched gladiator 2 last night.
Decent film but completely let down by weak as piss performance by lead actor who was appalling.

Denzil Washington was excellent though.

Denzil is always excellent..Man on fire is his finest IMO ?
Alas..I have zero interest in gladiator 2 because I know it's going to be a massive pile of shite

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