Fights that would have had a different outcome if both fighters were in their prime.
I’ll go Hagler v Leonard and Tyson v Hollyfield.
Who you got?
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 22:22
by Briano
Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025, 20:46
The British top 10 of fighters for the last 50 years.
1) Calzaghie
2) Lewis
3) Naseem
4) Watson...Controversial I know, but he boxed Eubanks head off the night Eubank caught him with a desperation haymaker. He Also beat Benn
5) Eubank....Chin of Granite
6) Benn
7) Hatton
8) Minter
9) McGuigan
10) Fury
What's yours?
Conteh, Honeyghan and Kirkland Laing would be in that list somewhere…in that era of weights and belts
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 21:05
by Briano
Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025, 20:46
The British top 10 of fighters for the last 50 years.
1) Calzaghie
2) Lewis
3) Naseem
4) Watson...Controversial I know, but he boxed Eubanks head off the night Eubank caught him with a desperation haymaker. He Also beat Benn
5) Eubank....Chin of Granite
6) Benn
7) Hatton
8) Minter
9) McGuigan
10) Fury
What's yours?
Just looking at this list my bro in law had a brilliant 3 year amateur career ‘82 to ‘85 before heroin took hold of him.
in those years he beat Calzaghe, Naseem and Robin Reid
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 20:46
by Nutsin
The British top 10 of fighters for the last 50 years.
1) Calzaghie
2) Lewis
3) Naseem
4) Watson...Controversial I know, but he boxed Eubanks head off the night Eubank caught him with a desperation haymaker. He Also beat Benn
5) Eubank....Chin of Granite
6) Benn
7) Hatton
8) Minter
9) McGuigan
10) Fury
What's yours?
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 14:07
by Council Scum
Gary Strodders shank" wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025, 10:31
In terms of making the weight and being able to carry the punching power one boxer that I recall having some issues was our very own Mark Kaylor
He was a tall rangy fighter who campaigned as I remember almost exclusively at middleweight during his prime before stepping up unsuccessfully to light heavy.
The super middleweight division which which I would of thought he would of been a natural for his size didn't seem to be recognised at that time although I think he did have a couple of fights at it towards the end of his career.
He was also probably born a few years too soon as a decade or so later super middleweight became the glamour division with the likes of Benn Eubank Watson Collins and later on Calzaghie.
I could imagine him having some great tear ups with some of that lot for the domestic titles although to be honest despite being a tough fucker I think he may of come up a bit short against the likes of Calzaghie and Collins in their prime although Ill stand to be corrected on that by the sites boxing officenados.
I enjoyed following his career during my youth none the less.
The domestic division was decent back then as well, Herol Graham, Tony Sibson, Errol Christie
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 12:24
by Far Cough UKunt
Yes on the right.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 12:10
by Iron Duke
He was on the cover of the Band on the Run album.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 10:32
by Far Cough UKunt
Anyone remember John Conteh?
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 10:31
by Gary Strodders shank
In terms of making the weight and being able to carry the punching power one boxer that I recall having some issues was our very own Mark Kaylor
He was a tall rangy fighter who campaigned as I remember almost exclusively at middleweight during his prime before stepping up unsuccessfully to light heavy.
The super middleweight division which which I would of thought he would of been a natural for his size didn't seem to be recognised at that time although I think he did have a couple of fights at it towards the end of his career.
He was also probably born a few years too soon as a decade or so later super middleweight became the glamour division with the likes of Benn Eubank Watson Collins and later on Calzaghie.
I could imagine him having some great tear ups with some of that lot for the domestic titles although to be honest despite being a tough fucker I think he may of come up a bit short against the likes of Calzaghie and Collins in their prime although Ill stand to be corrected on that by the sites boxing officenados.
I enjoyed following his career during my youth none the less.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 09:11
by Council Scum
zebthecat wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 21:15
Wardley is a pretty limited boxer but an really punch..He was absolutely schooled by Justis Huni until that KO punch.
Parker can really box and hits hard as well and should win unless Wardley gets lucky again.
Parker that got outworked and stopped by Joyce, outboxed by Anthony Joshua, dropped and beaten by Whyte, Nicked a win over Ruiz many didn't think he should have and got off the floor twice to scrape a majority against Zhang?
Parker had a good win over Wilder, but no on really knows if that means anything anymore, as Wilder simply hasn't done anything when he's gone in with the real top ones.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 09:02
by Massive Attack
Council Scum
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 09:01
by Council Scum
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025, 05:07
Tragic loss losing him so soon. Was one of the good ones in the world. That Mayweather fight in Vegas still pisses me off as I don't think Cortez was being fair and showing bias to Mayweather.
An experienced official showing bias? It doesn't happen. You've told me that.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 08:57
by Council Scum
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 16:00
"Clearly lost" "Absolutely robbed" who knows better than 2 experienced Judges with identical cards on the night for Calzaghe winning.
Did you agree with the "experienced" judges on the Jack Catterall Josh Taylor fight? Don't tell me, you need to watch it.
Stick to your arm chair.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 05:07
by Massive Attack
Tragic loss losing him so soon. Was one of the good ones in the world. That Mayweather fight in Vegas still pisses me off as I don't think Cortez was being fair and showing bias to Mayweather.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 03:45
by Monsieur merde de cheval
RIP Richard son
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 21:15
by zebthecat
Wardley is a pretty limited boxer but an really punch..He was absolutely schooled by Justis Huni until that KO punch.
Parker can really box and hits hard as well and should win unless Wardley gets lucky again.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 20:51
by Massive Attack
MaryMillingtonsGhost wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 20:42
Think it has the potential to be a decent bout fella. Although not too sure Usyk will lose any sleep whoever wins.
Same. He could have called it quits by now and they'd be no qualms. He loves it though and can't seem to give it up just yet.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 20:42
by MaryMillingtonsGhost
Think it has the potential to be a decent bout fella. Although not too sure Usyk will lose any sleep whoever wins. Also not entirely sure he wants too many more fights. His legacy is sealed, and the longer he goes on for he runs risk the risk of coming up short eventually. Just my opinion, natch.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 20:23
by Massive Attack
MaryMillingtonsGhost wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 20:14
I like Wardley. Decent, honest pro.
Have to say though that I fancy Parker. Think he'll have too much for him.
Been in with the best (of the current crop), and hasn't dissapointed.
Been in 2 minds with it but I think Parkers gonna do it an all on points. He's 1 tough cսnt who is prepared to take the pain for it. Wardley has that devastating knock out but something tells me it won't stop Parker. I think it's got the potential to be a special fight whoever does come out on top. Hopefully Wardley being the Englishman but can't see it.
And whoever does I think then sets it up nicely for Usyk who seems to want more.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 20:14
by MaryMillingtonsGhost
I like Wardley. Decent, honest pro.
Have to say though that I fancy Parker. Think he'll have too much for him.
Been in with the best (of the current crop), and hasn't dissapointed.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 19:50
by Massive Attack
Parker vs Wardley coming up on the 25th Oct, who's winning that? Open to the floor..
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 18:10
by southbankbornnbred
Swiss. wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 16:35
Leonard won the Hagler. Watching SRL counter attacking off the ropes was pure brilliance. He lost to Duran not at his peak. The next 'no mas"' fight he took the piss out of Duran.
Argument over.
Well, against the indisputable logic of simply repeating the words "argument over", Swiss, I bow out!
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 16:12
Here's another good vid of Calzaghe for you Council Scum..
In the words of Enzo "you pissed it!"
Why did he avoid Carl Froch ?
You'd have to ask them why it didn't happen. That would have been a great fight. Do like Cobra a lot but I think an ageing Calzaghe still wins that on points. Calzaghe probably regrets not coming out of retirement though as it would have been a special fight having decided the Jones one would be his last at the Mecca of Boxing Madison Square. He probably wanted to go out on that high that couldn't be topped.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 16:45
by Swiss.
Swiss. wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 16:35
Leonard won the Hagler. Watching SRL counter attacking off the ropes was pure brilliance. He lost to Duran not at his peak. The next 'no mas"' fight he took the piss out of Duran.
Argument over.
Now Andre Ward was a great middleweight . Undefeated . Froch gave him a good fight though.
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 16:42
by Swiss.
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025, 16:12
Here's another good vid of Calzaghe for you Council Scum..
In the words of Enzo "you pissed it!"
Why did he avoid Carl Froch ?
Re: Boxing
Posted: 16 Oct 2025, 16:35
by Swiss.
Leonard won the Hagler. Watching SRL counter attacking off the ropes was pure brilliance. He lost to Duran not at his peak. The next 'no mas"' fight he took the piss out of Duran.
