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1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 18:03 95% of footballers do not think it's just a job.

It's probably more like 5% think that.

Getting payed mega money, millions of people knowing who you are, watching you every week, having your name sung by strangers, being in newspapers, on the tele, all for playing a game you love, is not 'just a job'

Most of them understand that. The ones that see it as just a job get spoken about by orher players in disbelief, but its very rare. Look up David Batty for reference.

eusebiovic wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 17:44

threesixty wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 17:33

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:29 Love the optimistic fans on here who think it's really easy to move on players who are: not that great, on large wages for their talent, and heading towards 30 (or even the wrong side of it).

Not many, but some people just throw away comments like "sell JWP, Rodriguez and Alvarez", as though that's an easy thing to do.

Believe me - it really isn't. Almost no other club will pay those guys the wages that they're on at West Ham. And they're on multi-year deals, with some of them closing in on their vintage football years. Like Ings (who some people thought we could easily offload), some of them will have an interest in seeing out their whopping contracts first - and then moving to wherever they want for whatever they can get. Ward-Prowse*, for example, is 31 in November and under contract until 2027. He would really need to be convinced to give up his generous contract to go and play for a lot less, possibly in a lower division, elsewhere.

Moving on those sorts of players is hard. We have to do better as a club to avoid overpaying for them in the first place. A lesson we never seem to learn.

*Ward-Prowse is not the worst player that we have in this sort of position, either. We've ended up with a lot of squad fodder on big wages.

 

This.

It's so much easier and financially prudent to change the manager and see if you can get a tune out of a bunch of players than to expect every new manager to get their own full squad and bomb out loads of players. It never understand the mentality. You could go to any job and find a bunch of low performers but your never going to just get rid of tons of them and tell your boss, yeah, well I'm doing shit because half my staff are shit. Why expect that from football?

There's also the fact that these guys have been kicking balls around a pitch every other day since they were 7yrs old. Played thousands of matches etc. I really think 95% of footballers see it as a job and if all they have to do is come in to training 3 times a week and be available for selection to pick up 80k a week, yes please!

I dont think they are as bothered as we think they should be tbh.

To be honest though...Despite Tommy's limitations as a ball playing footballer I honestly don't think you can apply this to him. He's a good egg who has grafted and come up the hard way.

If Moyes offers what he paid for him while here then maybe as long as we have a young lad lined up with the energy and legs we need in that midfield. Only on that basis though.

threesixty wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 17:33

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:29 Love the optimistic fans on here who think it's really easy to move on players who are: not that great, on large wages for their talent, and heading towards 30 (or even the wrong side of it).

Not many, but some people just throw away comments like "sell JWP, Rodriguez and Alvarez", as though that's an easy thing to do.

Believe me - it really isn't. Almost no other club will pay those guys the wages that they're on at West Ham. And they're on multi-year deals, with some of them closing in on their vintage football years. Like Ings (who some people thought we could easily offload), some of them will have an interest in seeing out their whopping contracts first - and then moving to wherever they want for whatever they can get. Ward-Prowse*, for example, is 31 in November and under contract until 2027. He would really need to be convinced to give up his generous contract to go and play for a lot less, possibly in a lower division, elsewhere.

Moving on those sorts of players is hard. We have to do better as a club to avoid overpaying for them in the first place. A lesson we never seem to learn.

*Ward-Prowse is not the worst player that we have in this sort of position, either. We've ended up with a lot of squad fodder on big wages.

 

This.

It's so much easier and financially prudent to change the manager and see if you can get a tune out of a bunch of players than to expect every new manager to get their own full squad and bomb out loads of players. It never understand the mentality. You could go to any job and find a bunch of low performers but your never going to just get rid of tons of them and tell your boss, yeah, well I'm doing shit because half my staff are shit. Why expect that from football?

There's also the fact that these guys have been kicking balls around a pitch every other day since they were 7yrs old. Played thousands of matches etc. I really think 95% of footballers see it as a job and if all they have to do is come in to training 3 times a week and be available for selection to pick up 80k a week, yes please!

I dont think they are as bothered as we think they should be tbh.

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:29 Love the optimistic fans on here who think it's really easy to move on players who are: not that great, on large wages for their talent, and heading towards 30 (or even the wrong side of it).

Not many, but some people just throw away comments like "sell JWP, Rodriguez and Alvarez", as though that's an easy thing to do.

Believe me - it really isn't. Almost no other club will pay those guys the wages that they're on at West Ham. And they're on multi-year deals, with some of them closing in on their vintage football years. Like Ings (who some people thought we could easily offload), some of them will have an interest in seeing out their whopping contracts first - and then moving to wherever they want for whatever they can get. Ward-Prowse*, for example, is 31 in November and under contract until 2027. He would really need to be convinced to give up his generous contract to go and play for a lot less, possibly in a lower division, elsewhere.

Moving on those sorts of players is hard. We have to do better as a club to avoid overpaying for them in the first place. A lesson we never seem to learn.

*Ward-Prowse is not the worst player that we have in this sort of position, either. We've ended up with a lot of squad fodder on big wages.

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:29 Love the optimistic fans on here who think it's really easy to move on players who are: not that great, on large wages for their talent, and heading towards 30 (or even the wrong side of it).

Not many, but some people just throw away comments like "sell JWP, Rodriguez and Alvarez", as though that's an easy thing to do.

Believe me - it really isn't. Almost no other club will pay those guys the wages that they're on at West Ham. And they're on multi-year deals, with some of them closing in on their vintage football years. Like Ings (who some people thought we could easily offload), some of them will have an interest in seeing out their whopping contracts first - and then moving to wherever they want for whatever they can get. Ward-Prowse*, for example, is 31 in November and under contract until 2027. He would really need to be convinced to give up his generous contract to go and play for a lot less, possibly in a lower division, elsewhere.

Moving on those sorts of players is hard. We have to do better as a club to avoid overpaying for them in the first place. A lesson we never seem to learn.

*Ward-Prowse is not the worst player that we have in this sort of position, either. We've ended up with a lot of squad fodder on big wages.

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:29 Love the optimistic fans on here who think it's really easy to move on players who are: not that great, on large wages for their talent, and heading towards 30 (or even the wrong side of it).

Not many, but some people just throw away comments like "sell JWP, Rodriguez and Alvarez", as though that's an easy thing to do.

Believe me - it really isn't. Almost no other club will pay those guys the wages that they're on at West Ham. And they're on multi-year deals, with some of them closing in on their vintage football years. Like Ings (who some people thought we could easily offload), some of them will have an interest in seeing out their whopping contracts first - and then moving to wherever they want for whatever they can get. Ward-Prowse*, for example, is 31 in November and under contract until 2027. He would really need to be convinced to give up his generous contract to go and play for a lot less, possibly in a lower division, elsewhere.

Moving on those sorts of players is hard. We have to do better as a club to avoid overpaying for them in the first place. A lesson we never seem to learn.

*Ward-Prowse is not the worst player that we have in this sort of position, either. We've ended up with a lot of squad fodder on big wages.

Loxford Ave" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:18

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 10:52 Were you in the room whilst this negotiating was taking place?

Everyone was fuming that we were apparently going to sign the Brazilian, shocking we'd choose the cheap option over Hermansen, now we're signing Hermansen, we're cunts because a few Youtubers looking for clicks are saying we have treated him badly.

None of you planks know what actually happened. The only thing we know is that Hermansen is signing, which overall is a massive upgrade in the keeper department. I don't like our owner, but some of you cunts will moan about absolutely anything, it's pathetic.

 

None of us were in the room, but this is a direct quote from the Botafogo manager on Wednesday night:

Speaking to SportTV before Wednesday night’s Copa do Brasil clash against Red Bull Bragantino, Ancelotti confirmed that John’s situation was clear within the squad and that his absence from the matchday list was no surprise.“The situation with John was already clear to us yesterday,” the manager said. “I spoke to him and thanked him for everything he did for the club. His substitute is ready, and we’re happy to have him.”

So the player had said his goodbyes as confirmed by the manager yet 24hrs later the deal is off? The party line coming out of Victor's camp is that he changed his mind. Seems a bit odd to change your mind after you've said your goodbyes? makes him look a bit fucking stupid right? So what made him change his mind? I've read reports today now suggesting that West Ham cut the wages being offered at the last minute, one report claims this was as much as a 50% cut which didn't go down well with player and his agent.

Seeing as Sullivan has a lot of form for this type of shithousery, moving the goalposts at the last minute, as confirmed publicly many times by senior people at other clubs, it's not a huge leap of an assumption to think that this might actually be true and Sullivan fucked this up at the 11th hour either deliberately or because he cant fucking help himself!

As for whether or not we've made the right choice going for Hermansen, only time will tell but neither are worth getting that excited or that pissed off over.

eusebiovic wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 15:46

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:29 Love the optimistic fans on here who think it's really easy to move on players who are: not that great, on large wages for their talent, and heading towards 30 (or even the wrong side of it).

Not many, but some people just throw away comments like "sell JWP, Rodriguez and Alvarez", as though that's an easy thing to do.

Believe me - it really isn't. Almost no other club will pay those guys the wages that they're on at West Ham. And they're on multi-year deals, with some of them closing in on their vintage football years. Like Ings (who some people thought we could easily offload), some of them will have an interest in seeing out their whopping contracts first - and then moving to wherever they want for whatever they can get. Ward-Prowse*, for example, is 31 in November and under contract until 2027. He would really need to be convinced to give up his generous contract to go and play for a lot less, possibly in a lower division, elsewhere.

Moving on those sorts of players is hard. We have to do better as a club to avoid overpaying for them in the first place. A lesson we never seem to learn.

*Ward-Prowse is not the worst player that we have in this sort of position, either. We've ended up with a lot of squad fodder on big wages.

At least 90% of Europe can't afford Premiership wages.

Apart from one of the big three Turkish clubs giving it the old razzle dazzle that leaves Saudi Arabia or the Yanks who only push the boat out for top quality in their dotage

Which is a category that none of our overpriced, bang average water carriers fall into...

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 14:29 Love the optimistic fans on here who think it's really easy to move on players who are: not that great, on large wages for their talent, and heading towards 30 (or even the wrong side of it).

Not many, but some people just throw away comments like "sell JWP, Rodriguez and Alvarez", as though that's an easy thing to do.

Believe me - it really isn't. Almost no other club will pay those guys the wages that they're on at West Ham. And they're on multi-year deals, with some of them closing in on their vintage football years. Like Ings (who some people thought we could easily offload), some of them will have an interest in seeing out their whopping contracts first - and then moving to wherever they want for whatever they can get. Ward-Prowse*, for example, is 31 in November and under contract until 2027. He would really need to be convinced to give up his generous contract to go and play for a lot less, possibly in a lower division, elsewhere.

Moving on those sorts of players is hard. We have to do better as a club to avoid overpaying for them in the first place. A lesson we never seem to learn.

*Ward-Prowse is not the worst player that we have in this sort of position, either. We've ended up with a lot of squad fodder on big wages.

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 10:52 Were you in the room whilst this negotiating was taking place?

Everyone was fuming that we were apparently going to sign the Brazilian, shocking we'd choose the cheap option over Hermansen, now we're signing Hermansen, we're cunts because a few Youtubers looking for clicks are saying we have treated him badly.

None of you planks know what actually happened. The only thing we know is that Hermansen is signing, which overall is a massive upgrade in the keeper department. I don't like our owner, but some of you cunts will moan about absolutely anything, it's pathetic.

Iron Duke" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 13:58 Arthur Masuaku to Sunderland on a free

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 11:31

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 11:17

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 10:52 Were you in the room whilst this negotiating was taking place?

Everyone was fuming that we were apparently going to sign the Brazilian, shocking we'd choose the cheap option over Hermansen, now we're signing Hermansen, we're cunts because a few Youtubers looking for clicks are saying we have treated him badly.

None of you planks know what actually happened. The only thing we know is that Hermansen is signing, which overall is a massive upgrade in the keeper department. I don't like our owner, but some of you cunts will moan about absolutely anything, it's pathetic.

Nobody is really moaning are they, purely observations, whether accurate or not. It’s a discussion forum. 

Have a word with yourself, Eerie. Going down the road of “you planks” “you cunts”, you’re turning into Manuel. Just have a normal conversation without the need to try and use insults. That’s what’s pathetic. 

Apologies, I still think this is WHO, I forget sometimes that it's turned into a load of cardigan wearing sensitive fannies being all serious.

As for nobody is really moaning - that don't deserve a response.

You plank.

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 11:17

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 10:52 Were you in the room whilst this negotiating was taking place?

Everyone was fuming that we were apparently going to sign the Brazilian, shocking we'd choose the cheap option over Hermansen, now we're signing Hermansen, we're cunts because a few Youtubers looking for clicks are saying we have treated him badly.

None of you planks know what actually happened. The only thing we know is that Hermansen is signing, which overall is a massive upgrade in the keeper department. I don't like our owner, but some of you cunts will moan about absolutely anything, it's pathetic.

Nobody is really moaning are they, purely observations, whether accurate or not. It’s a discussion forum. 

Have a word with yourself, Eerie. Going down the road of “you planks” “you cunts”, you’re turning into Manuel. Just have a normal conversation without the need to try and use insults. That’s what’s pathetic. 

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 11:12

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 10:52

The only thing we know is that Hermansen is signing, which overall is a massive upgrade in the keeper department. 

He conceded more goals and had a worse save percentage than Areola.

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 10:52 Were you in the room whilst this negotiating was taking place?

Everyone was fuming that we were apparently going to sign the Brazilian, shocking we'd choose the cheap option over Hermansen, now we're signing Hermansen, we're cunts because a few Youtubers looking for clicks are saying we have treated him badly.

None of you planks know what actually happened. The only thing we know is that Hermansen is signing, which overall is a massive upgrade in the keeper department. I don't like our owner, but some of you cunts will moan about absolutely anything, it's pathetic.

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025, 10:52

The only thing we know is that Hermansen is signing, which overall is a massive upgrade in the keeper department.