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El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 12:21

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 12:04 Wilson was ineffective when coming on in to a disaster zone? He instantly put their Keeper and Defence under pressure stretching their defence finally winning corners for us and it was him that was involved for Paquetas goal that was ruled out for Offside. He worked hard asking questions of Leeds defence that kept them honest, won Free Kicks buying the Team time and was much better than Paqueta running around yet again up top like a headless chicken not knowing what to do.

Paqueta also needs to seriously pull his finger out creating for the Team when he's not asked to play up top, his creation in games is shocking and is supposed to be his normal game.

Like I've often said this season, start Wilson as he's the best option we've got right now as our best Striker currently at the Club. And yes that's on Sullivan.

He was better than not playing a striker and yeah better than Marshall, but I don't think he did that much aside from putting himself about as best he could. He was zero threat to them

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 09:41 Football management is easy, you basically blow smoke up the players arses and make them feel good about themselves and then, most importantly, you put round pegs in round holes. Simple.

Play 4-3-3, find a centre back who doesn’t mind heading and stick the young boys in midfield to give us more athleticism.

Honestly it’s painfully easy.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 12:04 Wilson was ineffective when coming on in to a disaster zone? He instantly put their Keeper and Defence under pressure stretching their defence finally winning corners for us and it was him that was involved for Paquetas goal that was ruled out for Offside. He worked hard asking questions of Leeds defence that kept them honest, won Free Kicks buying the Team time and was much better than Paqueta running around yet again up top like a headless chicken not knowing what to do.

Paqueta also needs to seriously pull his finger out creating for the Team when he's not asked to play up top, his creation in games is shocking and is supposed to be his normal game.

Like I've often said this season, start Wilson as he's the best option we've got right now as our best Striker currently at the Club. And yes that's on Sullivan.

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 11:13

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 10:59

Rossal wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 10:37

did he have a shot?

the only positive from last night was Potts, who will probably get 25 mins in the next game now instead of 20




or be played RWB

Yup I have to say Wilson tried, but utterly ineffective as well. issues is that no striker stands a fucking chance when THAT midfield pair is on the pitch. I feel bad for constantly ripping on two good honest pros who clearly gave all they had but it was nowhere near good enough. You cannot defend with them there and you cannot build any attack with them there. Paqueta Bowen and Summerville were having to drop so deep to try and get the ball, It's like neither of Irving or Soucek were even there. Potts and Fernandes were MILES better. MILES. Get those three firing with an understanding and we have a chance to create something for our front three who were chasing shadows all night and making big runs up and down the flank for nothing.

As soon as Fernandes came on he hustled and nicked the ball off one of their players in an advanced position- that hadn't happened all night. the other two couldn't get close to anyone. After being on the pitch for 15 mins, Potts had already half as many touches as Soucek had in 65 minutes. That speaks volumes. We were able to play quick passes and one twos with movement. Were Leeds not already in defensive mode an Summerville and Bowen knackered, I think we'd have been able to get through them without too much trouble. That midfield makes everything better across the whole team.

There's so much evidence to anyone with a functioning brain and a pair of eyes that Soucek and Irving should never, ever be in a game together again or unless everyone else is injured or we are chucking on Soucek as an extra forward to get a goal. So much evidence that the ONLY way forward is Fernandes Potts and Magassa and if Nuno hasn't seen that over the last 180 minutes of football (coupled with this switched full backs nonsense) well then his position becomes untenable because it's crazy to be doing what he is doing. It was crazy on Monday, we all knew it prior to kick off. It was even crazier last night given how it turned out on Monday- not a single person except him thought it was anything other than a shit idea- and if he does it again? It flies in the face of all logic. I'll have to believe it's on purpose and someone at the club with influence does not want us to win matches or stay in the division.

We need to plug away until January on damage limitation with that midfield, hope we can pick up enough points to still be relevant, and then on 2nd January, bring in two centre backs and one if not two strikers who can immediately go into the side and contribute. That's probably the difference between staying up or going down. There can be no dithering over targets or silly games from Sullivan to save money or get a bargain, or an cut price alternative to what the manager wants, no waiting until the end of the month, they need to have a list of targets in mind NOW, be doing groundwork NOW and get deals done as soon as the window opens, if they can find players of the required quality willing to take the gamble of joining us. I believe there's still a way out of this mess if we actually do what's needed to be done. So much of it is so obvious as well.

Agree with most of that, Scorch. But I will add that we probably don't have the money to bring in four or five players in January. Sullivan didn't want to spend that money in late August that he ended up splashing on yet more ineffective midfielders. Potter had already wasted serious cash on a goalkeeper who couldn't catch a cold. Then the twonk chairman put himself in charge of signing more squad fodder.

I imagine we don't have more money. So any January moves would most likely be loans. And that will limit what we can do.

I really don't see much of a way out of this. At best, I can see maybe two expensive loans in January as emergency measures - and maybe one permanent signing. Three January signings is more than we would usually make. And we can't keep signing more players without offloading, or we'll hit PSR etc.

This squad is very, very poor and full of expensive, not very good talent we need to ditch - but will struggle to. It all points in one direction. This is the culmination of years of SulliBall.

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 10:59

Rossal wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 10:37

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 09:50 Wilson did make a difference when he came on, he should start him in front of the fucking German fraud when he comes back.

did he have a shot?

the only positive from last night was Potts, who will probably get 25 mins in the next game now instead of 20




or be played RWB

Yup I have to say Wilson tried, but utterly ineffective as well. issues is that no striker stands a fucking chance when THAT midfield pair is on the pitch. I feel bad for constantly ripping on two good honest pros who clearly gave all they had but it was nowhere near good enough. You cannot defend with them there and you cannot build any attack with them there. Paqueta Bowen and Summerville were having to drop so deep to try and get the ball, It's like neither of Irving or Soucek were even there. Potts and Fernandes were MILES better. MILES. Get those three firing with an understanding and we have a chance to create something for our front three who were chasing shadows all night and making big runs up and down the flank for nothing.

As soon as Fernandes came on he hustled and nicked the ball off one of their players in an advanced position- that hadn't happened all night. the other two couldn't get close to anyone. After being on the pitch for 15 mins, Potts had already half as many touches as Soucek had in 65 minutes. That speaks volumes. We were able to play quick passes and one twos with movement. Were Leeds not already in defensive mode an Summerville and Bowen knackered, I think we'd have been able to get through them without too much trouble. That midfield makes everything better across the whole team.

There's so much evidence to anyone with a functioning brain and a pair of eyes that Soucek and Irving should never, ever be in a game together again or unless everyone else is injured or we are chucking on Soucek as an extra forward to get a goal. So much evidence that the ONLY way forward is Fernandes Potts and Magassa and if Nuno hasn't seen that over the last 180 minutes of football (coupled with this switched full backs nonsense) well then his position becomes untenable because it's crazy to be doing what he is doing. It was crazy on Monday, we all knew it prior to kick off. It was even crazier last night given how it turned out on Monday- not a single person except him thought it was anything other than a shit idea- and if he does it again? It flies in the face of all logic. I'll have to believe it's on purpose and someone at the club with influence does not want us to win matches or stay in the division.

We need to plug away until January on damage limitation with that midfield, hope we can pick up enough points to still be relevant, and then on 2nd January, bring in two centre backs and one if not two strikers who can immediately go into the side and contribute. That's probably the difference between staying up or going down. There can be no dithering over targets or silly games from Sullivan to save money or get a bargain, or an cut price alternative to what the manager wants, no waiting until the end of the month, they need to have a list of targets in mind NOW, be doing groundwork NOW and get deals done as soon as the window opens, if they can find players of the required quality willing to take the gamble of joining us. I believe there's still a way out of this mess if we actually do what's needed to be done. So much of it is so obvious as well.

Rossal wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 10:37

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 09:50 Wilson did make a difference when he came on, he should start him in front of the fucking German fraud when he comes back.

did he have a shot?

the only positive from last night was Potts, who will probably get 25 mins in the next game now instead of 20




or be played RWB

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 09:50 Wilson did make a difference when he came on, he should start him in front of the fucking German fraud when he comes back.

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 09:50 Wilson did make a difference when he came on, he should start him in front of the fucking German fraud when he comes back.

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 09:41 Football management is easy, you basically blow smoke up the players arses and make them feel good about themselves and then, most importantly, you put round pegs in round holes. Simple.

Play 4-3-3, find a centre back who doesn’t mind heading and stick the young boys in midfield to give us more athleticism.

Honestly it’s painfully easy.

Mex Martillo" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025, 07:57 What are the logics of the invert full backs? I don’t get it. I think starting the same players without inverting fill backs could have been ok. I feel most sorry for Scarles, who I don’t think has the experience to be messed about like that and it showed for the 1st  goal.