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Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 26 May 2025, 20:02
by stubbo-admin
May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.
Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?
Window this close season comes in two parts:
Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September
Rumoured Outs...most of the squad
Let the "Rumoured In's" commence.
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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)
Rumoured In
- Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
- Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
- Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
- Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
- Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
- Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
- James Trafford | GK | Burnley
- Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
- Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
- CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
- Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
- Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
- Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
- Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
- Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
- James McAtee | AM | Man City
- Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
- Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
- Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
- Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
- Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
- Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
- Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
- Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
- Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
- Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
- Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
- Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
- Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
- Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
- Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
- Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
- El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
- Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
- Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
- Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
- Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
- John Victor | GK | Botofogo
- Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
- Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
- Nga Makou | CM | Lille
- Quinten Timber | CM
- Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
- Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs
Rumoured Out
- Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
- Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
- Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
- Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
- Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
- Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
- Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
- Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
- Emerson | LB | Marseille
Confirmed In
- Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
- Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
- El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
- Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
- C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
- Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
- Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
- Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
- Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)
Confirmed Out
- Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
- Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
- Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
- Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
- Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
- Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
- Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
- Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
- Brad Dolaghan | Released
- Dondre Abraham | Released
- Mehmet Halim | Released
- Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
- Michail Antonio | Released
- Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
- Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
- Emerson | Marseille | £1m
- Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
- Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 14:52
by Keep dreaming
I don't buy the gossip from C&H that Potter doesn't want a striker.
He probably didn't want Sullivans's striker , so what happens next is Sullivan having a tantrum and will use Salthouse and sign Wilson æ. He then can put the blame on Potter.
Sullivan has to fucking die !
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 14:13
by scott_d
Keeno78 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 13:53
I'd rather no striker than Wilson or Antonio again, and those be our options. They may be "free" but the packages will still cost a lot for little return with those two.
Agree. It's a sad day that we are desperate for a striker but would rather not sign one.
But if it's Bowen, Fullkrug and Marshall the 3 strikers, with Summerville, Guillerme, Paqueta, Orford, Earthy and hopefully a singing or two supporting, then that is probably better than bringing in a 33 y/o has been.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 13:53
by Keeno78
Also think Potter may consider Bowen a striker option now, so it would be Fullkrug, Bowen and Marshall going into the season.
Which would make the potential chasing of Harvey Elliot more understandable, as he offers a RW alternative should Bowen go central.
I'd rather no striker than Wilson or Antonio again, and those be our options. They may be "free" but the packages will still cost a lot for little return with those two.
Still a full month of the window left though, and it wouldn't surprise me if Sullivan leaves it right until the last minute to try get deals over the line and to see where other deals fall/land and whom becomes available (cheap loans!), as that also saves him a penny or two and has been the case in previous years - its not panic stations just yet - but agree with others than the central midfield not having changed is still the greatest concern.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 13:43
by Fauxstralian
Agree that if Wilson signs then Antonio will accept our offer & also sign
Before both broadcast their podcast from our treatment room
While holding hands
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 13:40
by Fauxstralian
BBC gossip section has said Xhaka has told Leverkusen he ‘only wants to join Sunderland’
Thank Christ for that
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 13:23
by Eerie Decent
fraser wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 10:44
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 10:35
fraser wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 10:30
He's not signed for anyone yet, has he?
Not sure, hasn't signed for us though.
So still could, well aside from we have no room because we haven't been able to sell.
Still could, might not. The point is there was a meltdown on here when the ITK's were saying he was all but signed up, that was how long ago? Most of these blud clarts know fuck all.
I prefer to wait and see, but to each their own fras son.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 13:17
by Fauxstralian
Gideon Kodua joins Luton on loan with an option to buy
Luton manager had him at Wycombe
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 13:08
by El Scorchio
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:59
by El Scorchio
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:48
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:39
Yeah that's fair and there's no reason he wouldn't do that and he might well do. Alternatively (and I can hear him saying this) 'We felt Callum Marshall give us a better chance of winning.' I don't think he'll play Wilson much at all anyway unless there's no choice a la Ferguson who I am becoming more convinced he didn't want either but was a situation similar to this. So to that end he doesn't even need to say anything. It'll be patently obvious if Wilson gets the minimum of playing time. Potter is going to act with a great deal more respect and integrity than Sullivan will. He won't scapegoat the player. This isn't the player's fault either.
I always felt we had an obligation to pay Nice more money for Todibo if he completed a certain amount of 90 mins, which is why Potter, and Lopetegui, always hooked him with a few mins to go.
Sullivan should have no influence on this team.
Agree- there have been whiffs of that with loads of loan players over the years as well IIRC, and loan to buy players, where a certain number of games or minutes played will likely trigger some sort of obligation.
And you're right, it just shouldn't be a factor in picking a team or managing a match. You'd be surprised if again the conversation with all those managers regarding those players wasn't something like 'You can have this player with these constraints, or nothing.'
There can't be another club run this shambolically.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:56
by northbankboy68
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:13
In the C&H article, the following sentence is key “His agent Will Salthouse is playing a key role in securing a deal.” What it does not mention is Sullivan playimg a key role too. Potter like all his predecessors, obeys his employer or has to resign which he wont. Same with BFS, Bilic, Moyes etc.
We’ve had 15 years of an owner who meddles in the football side of the clubs he owns ( same when he owned Brum). He has failed spectacularly throughout this time, and yet his need for validation or just his ego means he cannot let go. He remsins the insurmountable barrier to success. He might be well intentioned? In his mind,he is thinking he knows best and Wilson will become an expected success and lead us to Europe with 30 goals. Conversly, he’s just looking after a mate ( Salthouse )?
Makes me want to boil my head!
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:48
by Lee Trundle
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:39
Yeah that's fair and there's no reason he wouldn't do that and he might well do. Alternatively (and I can hear him saying this) 'We felt Callum Marshall give us a better chance of winning.' I don't think he'll play Wilson much at all anyway unless there's no choice a la Ferguson who I am becoming more convinced he didn't want either but was a situation similar to this. So to that end he doesn't even need to say anything. It'll be patently obvious if Wilson gets the minimum of playing time. Potter is going to act with a great deal more respect and integrity than Sullivan will. He won't scapegoat the player. This isn't the player's fault either.
I always felt we had an obligation to pay Nice more money for Todibo if he completed a certain amount of 90 mins, which is why Potter, and Lopetegui, always hooked him with a few mins to go.
Sullivan should have no influence on this team.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:39
by El Scorchio
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:33
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:18
As for announcing that to the media straight up, that those players were forced on him and he didn't want them, no manager would do that unless he's asking for the tin tack or he's basically irreplaceable. You just don't do that to your employer in public. None of us would.
It doesn't have to be like that.
There would be nothing wrong with him saying:
"A couple of targets were put in front of me, but we decided against going in that direction and we'll focus on the kids coming through instead"
No headlines in that, no drama, but it explains to the supporters what's going on.
Yeah that's fair and there's no reason he wouldn't do that and he might well do. Alternatively (and I can hear him saying this) 'We felt Callum Marshall give us a better chance of winning.' I don't think he'll play Wilson much at all anyway unless there's no choice a la Ferguson who I am becoming more convinced he didn't want either but was a situation similar to this. So to that end he doesn't even need to say anything. It'll be patently obvious if Wilson gets the minimum of playing time. Potter is going to act with a great deal more respect and integrity than Sullivan will. He won't scapegoat the player. This isn't the player's fault either.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:35
by El Scorchio
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:29
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:17
Trundle, employees typically dont do that and in the world of football where top managers are at a premium, managers like Potter, Moyes, BFS are only too grateful to have their job. Perhaps another reason why Sullivan will only ever employ a manager who us out of work. Hence grateful and easier to control. ?
You do realise that these 3 managers are multi millionaires right? They have no need to work, they aren’t exactly on the breadline.
I think you're under the misapprehension they just do it for the money. They don't. The money is very nice but they love the job. It's a bloody hard all consuming job where you get loads of pressure, plenty of criticism and not a lot of praise. You have to want the job, not the money. You won't hack it otherwise.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:33
by Lee Trundle
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:18
As for announcing that to the media straight up, that those players were forced on him and he didn't want them, no manager would do that unless he's asking for the tin tack or he's basically irreplaceable. You just don't do that to your employer in public. None of us would.
It doesn't have to be like that.
There would be nothing wrong with him saying:
"A couple of targets were put in front of me, but we decided against going in that direction and we'll focus on the kids coming through instead"
No headlines in that, no drama, but it explains to the supporters what's going on.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:29
by twoleftfeet
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:17
Trundle, employees typically dont do that and in the world of football where top managers are at a premium, managers like Potter, Moyes, BFS are only too grateful to have their job. Perhaps another reason why Sullivan will only ever employ a manager who us out of work. Hence grateful and easier to control. ?
You do realise that these 3 managers are multi millionaires right? They have no need to work, they aren’t exactly on the breadline.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:26
by Lee Trundle
claypole wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:21
With Fabianski, Coufal and Cresswell gone we need to build up the average age of the squad by 100+ years. Wilson helps
You forgot about Ings leaving. Both him and Wilson are the same age, apart from Ings stays fit.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:21
by claypole
With Fabianski, Coufal and Cresswell gone we need to build up the average age of the squad by 100+ years. Wilson helps
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:18
by El Scorchio
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:14
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:05
Well, what's he going to do if he's told it's them or no-one?
Grow a set, tell he'll play the kids instead and explain that to the media so the supporters understand what's going on.
He still can and might. The point I'm making is that he's being put in a position where it doesn't make sense to turn them down.
As for announcing that to the media straight up, that those players were forced on him and he didn't want them, no manager would do that unless he's asking for the tin tack or he's basically irreplaceable. You just don't do that to your employer in public. None of us would.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:17
by Sir Alf
Trundle, employees typically dont do that and in the world of football where top managers are at a premium, managers like Potter, Moyes, BFS are only too grateful to have their job. Perhaps another reason why Sullivan will only ever employ a manager who us out of work. Hence grateful and easier to control. ?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:14
by Lee Trundle
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 12:05
Well, what's he going to do if he's told it's them or no-one?
Grow a set, tell he'll play the kids instead and explain that to the media so the supporters understand what's going on.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:13
by Sir Alf
In the C&H article, the following sentence is key “His agent Will Salthouse is playing a key role in securing a deal.” What it does not mention is Sullivan playimg a key role too. Potter like all his predecessors, obeys his employer or has to resign which he wont. Same with BFS, Bilic, Moyes etc.
We’ve had 15 years of an owner who meddles in the football side of the clubs he owns ( same when he owned Brum). He has failed spectacularly throughout this time, and yet his need for validation or just his ego means he cannot let go. He remsins the insurmountable barrier to success. He might be well intentioned? In his mind,he is thinking he knows best and Wilson will become an expected success and lead us to Europe with 30 goals. Conversly, he’s just looking after a mate ( Salthouse )?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:05
by El Scorchio
fraser wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 11:51
Pussy Potter who didn't want KWP or Wilson but is now OK if you believe the noises
Well, what's he going to do if he's told it's them or no-one?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 12:04
by El Scorchio
Probably got told it's Wilson or nothing striker wise if he wants to buy/prioritise midfielders or centre backs or doesn't want to sell X player.
If Wilson barely makes a dent in the wages structure then I guess it's not AS bad but still it's utter shithousery from Sullivan. And damn right the intention from Sullivan I am sure has been to eventually offer Antonio a lowball contract on deadline day if no-one else came in for him. Strikers done on the cheap from the barrow boy. We'll have a combined age of over 100 up front. The fact that Wilson and Antonio are so tight worries me. I hope they don't try and politick their way to sidelining Fullkrug in favour of themselves. I know Antonio has apparently played silly buggers before with this sort of thing although I'd imagine he's got somewhat less clout now, if he comes back.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 11:57
by Massive Attack
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 11:51
If Wilson signs, then I reckon Antonio does also.
That's how shit it will be.
Antonio will need to have guarantees of having a mate willing to chauffeur him in to gym rehab should he likely have his 3rd road accident, so it makes sense.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 22 Jul 2025, 11:57
by North Bank
Hammers News get more wrong than right so we have that to cling onto, however, this smacks of Sullivan
“The manager does not want a striker which some feel is wrong,” the West Ham spokesman told Hammers News.“I feel we should sign two.“We expect to sign Callum Wilson, but that might not be enough in my opinion as he has had injury issues in the past too.”