May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.
Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?
Window this close season comes in two parts:
Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025, 10:01
KWP is a Partridge signing if ever there was one.
A player whose best is the bottom 25% of the Prem and the top 25% of the Championship, signing for a manager who inhabits that world in his mind and (with one exception) in his achievements.
It’s Glenn Roeder meets Sam Byram.
I’m delighted, naturally. Can’t wait.
In what games did you watch him, and what was it that has made you liken him to Sam Byram? Or was it when you watched him get his couple of caps for England?
Unlike you I don't watch loads of Southampton, but I thought he played really well against us, good on the ball and very quick, something we massively lack in the squad.
Looks pretty good in that montage to me. Shrewd signing.
Ok… I’m interested now! Those clips (I know it’s YT etc) .. he’s very good on the ball isn’t he? Seems very balanced on both feet and can play well on the left and right (unlike Coufal).
this just begs more questions now: why hasn’t he had a better career with the capabilities he seems to have? What are his weaknesses? I didn’t seem much defending on the clips so maybe it’s that?
looking at those clips, is Diouf better than him? Or just younger?
if KWP in training is doing stuff like in those clips then he starts on the left with AVB on the right.
there must be a catch!
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 10:36
by Tomshardware
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025, 10:34
"AWB could play on the right side of a back 3"
I keep seeing this suggestion. He's never played there in his life from what I can gather. I have no idea why people suddenly think this.
(you're not the only one Brenty)
Also I don't understand why anyone would want to put him there anyway, one of his biggest assets is bombing forward and assisting and popping up with the odd goal.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 10:34
by Lee Trundle
"AWB could play on the right side of a back 3"
I keep seeing this suggestion. He's never played there in his life from what I can gather. I have no idea why people suddenly think this.
(you're not the only one Brenty)
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 10:32
by Eerie Decent
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025, 10:01
KWP is a Partridge signing if ever there was one.
A player whose best is the bottom 25% of the Prem and the top 25% of the Championship, signing for a manager who inhabits that world in his mind and (with one exception) in his achievements.
It’s Glenn Roeder meets Sam Byram.
I’m delighted, naturally. Can’t wait.
In what games did you watch him, and what was it that has made you liken him to Sam Byram? Or was it when you watched him get his couple of caps for England?
Unlike you I don't watch loads of Southampton, but I thought he played really well against us, good on the ball and very quick, something we massively lack in the squad.
Looks pretty good in that montage to me. Shrewd signing.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 10:29
by RootsRadical
KWP is 28 not 38 so is in his prime for at least a couple more years. He will get plenty of minutes.
We have 4 fullbacks inc Scales. KWP is probably a better left sided option at wing back than Scarles . There will be Injuries, suspensions, rotation and 2 of them will be at the AFCON in Jan/FEB.
Also AWB could play on the right side of a back 3 with KWP at Wing Back so his signing gives Potter plenty of options tactically and for rotation.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 10:20
by southbankbornnbred
Putting aside fresh faces, like Diouf, my big worry about West Ham right now is that we’ve recently been bringing in a lot of people with proven track records that are very much about the “survivalist” bottom half of the Premier League - and spending a lot on them.
Potter (one top-ten finish, 9th)
Kilman has never finished top 10.
JWP has rarely done so.
KWP has rarely (if ever?) done so.
And, of course, we know that the chairman thinks 17th is good enough every year.
There are exceptions still at the club, of course: Bowen, Paqueta, AWB etc. We need more of that, or the first team’s mentality will become a bit too “just happy to be here”.
Genuinely, you can sense our capacity/ceiling within the Premier League getting lower at the moment. We need better than this with future signings. It’s time for Potter to up his game.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 10:19
by El Scorchio
It's squad depth, which we will need in winter, on a free. Wages a bit high but because it was a free it's not awful and the contract length is sensible so it's pretty low risk despite his age. Provided it doesn't stop us bringing in those players we really need, and viewed in context at the end of the window provided we do get those players we need, I think it's OK.
The antithesis of a sexy move but it's a sensible one, and it's hassle free and quick to do. We're now set at full back/wing back. Decent, practical business
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 10:01
by southbankbornnbred
KWP is a Partridge signing if ever there was one.
A player whose best is the bottom 25% of the Prem and the top 25% of the Championship, signing for a manager who inhabits that world in his mind and (with one exception) in his achievements.
It’s Glenn Roeder meets Sam Byram.
I’m delighted, naturally. Can’t wait.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 09:53
by fraser
Potter turned him down at first because Diouf was his priority, if Potter plays KWP ahead of him it would be very odd
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 09:43
by threesixty
I think KWP is a weird signing because of his age really. He’s 28, so you think he needs regular 1st team football. But he’s not better than AWB. You’d never rather have KWP on the pitch over AWB. So I bet he ends up starting as left back because this Diouf guy will take time to settle. Then that kind of destroys the progress of both Diouf and Scarles.
it’s not like we have Europe etc. we have really 1 focus and we’re not blessed with amazing players everywhere so rotation is a bit pointless.
it feels a bit, “it was on offer in Aldi for half price so I bought it but it isn’t really what I need” thing.
I dunno. It’s Just squad padding really. Which is fine. But I’m in favour of the whole senior / junior backup model in all positions. Not several of the same player profile with the same ages etc.
Coufal did not like the lack of game time he got, why should KWP? (Maybe he likes collecting money and not playing??)
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 09:28
by eusebiovic
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025, 08:36
Logistically KWP is a sound move.
It makes our full back positions probably the strongest in the squad with AWB, Diouf, Scarles and (apparently) soon to be announced KWP who can play both sides. And with AFCON looming we will need Scarles and KWP.
£75k a week is alot for KWP. But he comes with no fee and we do have the wages available. And if, against all of my better judgement and sense, we are unbelievably having a half decent season by AFCON, he could be a very important player for us.
Does make me laugh though, we have been linked with Arnau Martinez (RB at Girona) who is 22 and up and coming. Girona had agreed to sell for £13m and player wanted move yet we have procrastinated and now that move will be off. Sulli's backers will say its shrewd as its saved us £13m, but we all know the truth.
The lad at Girona would be a far better signing, less wages plenty of top level match experience under his belt and ready to kick on. Plus decent resale value if he gets homesick and wants to return to Spain.
Which is highly unlikely because he's a northerner...that type of Spaniard can adapt like a fish to water over here...
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 09:25
by stubbo-admin
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 09:18
by Gank
Walker-Peters now has a few months to decide which country to represent in the AFCON.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 09:07
by Massive Attack
75k a week for a dogshit Full Back as back-up? Seems a bit steep to me when he'll rarely play.
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025, 08:36
Logistically KWP is a sound move.
It makes our full back positions probably the strongest in the squad with AWB, Diouf, Scarles and (apparently) soon to be announced KWP who can play both sides. And with AFCON looming we will need Scarles and KWP.
£75k a week is alot for KWP. But he comes with no fee and we do have the wages available. And if, against all of my better judgement and sense, we are unbelievably having a half decent season by AFCON, he could be a very important player for us.
Does make me laugh though, we have been linked with Arnau Martinez (RB at Girona) who is 22 and up and coming. Girona had agreed to sell for £13m and player wanted move yet we have procrastinated and now that move will be off. Sulli's backers will say its shrewd as its saved us £13m, but we all know the truth.
Save yourself £12m in transfer fees but then pay an extra £6m in wages over 4 years with little or no resale value.
Its so short sighted but classic Sullivan.
It's three years isn't it, plus we could flip him next season and cover the extra in wages and maybe make a small profit.. Yeah I know sounds too sensible
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:56
by goose
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025, 08:36
Logistically KWP is a sound move.
It makes our full back positions probably the strongest in the squad with AWB, Diouf, Scarles and (apparently) soon to be announced KWP who can play both sides. And with AFCON looming we will need Scarles and KWP.
£75k a week is alot for KWP. But he comes with no fee and we do have the wages available. And if, against all of my better judgement and sense, we are unbelievably having a half decent season by AFCON, he could be a very important player for us.
Does make me laugh though, we have been linked with Arnau Martinez (RB at Girona) who is 22 and up and coming. Girona had agreed to sell for £13m and player wanted move yet we have procrastinated and now that move will be off. Sulli's backers will say its shrewd as its saved us £13m, but we all know the truth.
Save yourself £12m in transfer fees but then pay an extra £6m in wages over 4 years with little or no resale value.
Its so short sighted but classic Sullivan.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:52
by Mad Ferret
I'd imagine this young lad at Girona would've been expecting to start every week.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:48
by fraser
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025, 08:36
Logistically KWP is a sound move.
It makes our full back positions probably the strongest in the squad with AWB, Diouf, Scarles and (apparently) soon to be announced KWP who can play both sides. And with AFCON looming we will need Scarles and KWP.
£75k a week is alot for KWP. But he comes with no fee and we do have the wages available. And if, against all of my better judgement and sense, we are unbelievably having a half decent season by AFCON, he could be a very important player for us.
Does make me laugh though, we have been linked with Arnau Martinez (RB at Girona) who is 22 and up and coming. Girona had agreed to sell for £13m and player wanted move yet we have procrastinated and now that move will be off. Sulli's backers will say its shrewd as its saved us £13m, but we all know the truth.
Depends if that money is spent elsewhere I suppose, we will see but I fear you're right.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:36
by Russ of the BML
Logistically KWP is a sound move.
It makes our full back positions probably the strongest in the squad with AWB, Diouf, Scarles and (apparently) soon to be announced KWP who can play both sides. And with AFCON looming we will need Scarles and KWP.
£75k a week is alot for KWP. But he comes with no fee and we do have the wages available. And if, against all of my better judgement and sense, we are unbelievably having a half decent season by AFCON, he could be a very important player for us.
Does make me laugh though, we have been linked with Arnau Martinez (RB at Girona) who is 22 and up and coming. Girona had agreed to sell for £13m and player wanted move yet we have procrastinated and now that move will be off. Sulli's backers will say its shrewd as its saved us £13m, but we all know the truth.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:33
by Lee Trundle
Cements my decision that our transfer strategy hasn't changed one bit.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:26
by Sir Alf
Sullivan would unzip for the KWP deal financially. Avoids a fee so presumably not hitting cash flow ? Wages of 75k are high but presume they are financed in operational costs and he has plenty of headroom there since we just got rid of what 250-300 million worth via lettting go of Zouma, Ings, Fab, Coufal, Solar etc?
Is KWP worth 75 bags a week? No but Sullivan does not see football ability as a priority over financials probably ? I think he improved the squad though and better than Coufal imo.
Still awaiting central midfield additions before we can perhaps feel less pessimistic about the season ahead. Young, hard working, pacy and physical specimen or 2 in that area with some technical ability to replace Soucek, JWP and even Alvarez and Paqueta. Failure to do so will undermine whole transfer window but we have 40 or so days left for Sullivan to “try” and get Potter and Macaulay targets. Not confident but never am with our meddling, “I know best”, leader.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:16
by Fauxstralian
Not bad for someone who won’t be a first choice
Should be able to afford a nice watch
Dont mind him as someone who can play both sides especially with AWB & Diouf away at AFCON mid season
Presuming Emerson is off but with him, those two & Scarles we are covered
Just need to get on with the striker(s) & midfielders
Am guessing if Hermansen is coming from Leicester then Areola will be off. Not sure I want to rely on Foderingham as second keeper though. Still reckon Fabianski could have done one more season as no2
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:08
by eusebiovic
It's nuts that somebody as bang average as KWP can get 75k a week.
Nice work if you can get it and most footballer's fall into that bracket.
Football economics - the illusion of good housekeeping!
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 08:00
by Steady
Fabrizio here we go, Kyle Walker Peters signing on 3 year deal
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 18 Jul 2025, 07:59
by eusebiovic
I see we're getting linked with Nicolas Tagliafico again...an over the hill left-back/wing back injury prone who will be 33 next month.
Sounds like the kind of deal that an agent does to get another green highlight on their spreadsheet.