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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

"SB, I was more referring to what mcvey did when he left us and employed wade phillips as DC. I know they fell short of winning a superbowl but I think it was wise having someone that experienced to lean on during those first couple of years"

"El Scorchio 12:15 Mon Oct 25 not sure what the fuck you're talking about, I don't think I've once called for Rivera to go"

"Worryingly, Saleh looked terrified facing the New York media after the game. He looked and sounded lost - and a bit fearful that they are going to turn on him. Which, seven games into your HC career, does not bode well. I've seen that look on Jets HC's many times before."

"Hahaha! Don't get me wrong - I'm not criticising anybody on here: the NFL crowd on this board are an informed bunch and generally know their onions. There's just so much uncertainty about HC appointments in the NFL. The league's history is littered with the graves of good co-ordinators who failed to make the step up to HC. I just hope that Saleh doesn't become another one of the Jets' very long list of those people. Like many, I was drawn in by his record at San Francisco and his jib when he got the Jets job. And maybe he will turn out to be the right guy. But he has started out down the wrong road - and he needs to quickly reverse some early decisions (particularly around play-calling). He's currently trying to be the sort of coach he has never been - and it has been painful to watch. It's not on LaFleur - he's too easy a target. It's on Saleh, who appointed him as OC and gave him free rein on offense. We all assumed that was because Saleh was going to be very hands-on with the defense - and then he says he's not going to call plays or have much influence on defense on match-days, either! Besides, the focus on LaFleur is irrelevent. Yesterday, the Jets shipped 50+ points for the first time since the Rich Kotite era (1995). That's on the defense - and that's on Saleh. It is early days. But at some point, we have to judge him on what he's delivering. So far, it has been a well-spoken mess. Yesterday was an embarrassment defensively and any self-respecting former DC should react to that with some firm action."

"It is quite extraordinary to watch both TM and SBBB's posts evolve over the course of an NFL season (almost every season without fail) go from the new head coach of the Jets or WFT, whoever they may be, being the man who is definitely going to get the franchise back to winning ways, to an absolute useless bum who needs to be removed as quickly as possible!"

"I didn't rave about him, I just thought he'd be better than gase and seven games is far too early to want another change. It was always questionable going in to your first year coach job and not having someone experienced (worked as a main coordinator in the nfl) calling the plays on offense. Lafleur Jr may turn out to be great, but I think a rookie head coach needs at least one older head on the staff and it doesn't seem he has that on both sides of the ball"

"Be interesting to see what Saleh does now. If he does not have an ego, and if he knows what's good for the team, then he'll roll his sleeves up, start calling plays and do some frontline work. He clearly had talent as DC in San Francisco - so he must be the better defensive mind on our (thin) coaching roster. If he's yet another stubborn HC who sticks by his flawed decisions, then we're in for a very long season or two under him before he's smuggled out the back door while yet another coach wanders through the front door. I've been completely unimpressed by his first six weeks. If I worked with a guy like that, I'd be asking questions about his workload and effort. And I'd hide his moisturiser and head oils to get him away from the mirror."

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"Crystal - it's genuinely hard to tell at the moment, because the Jets' fraudulent head coach hasn't provided Wilson with much in the way of protection. And, as a consequence, the kid is now injured. I like the look of your fella, though, unfortunately. Keeps things very simple and that will always work under BB. Wilson's injury looks like a problem with the PCL in his knee after another heavy tackle where his O-line failed him. In his first season. You can't learn if you have no protection. Quite a few folk on here raved about Saleh when he got the job. I was sceptical, because you just don't know until you see them as a leader (plus I felt we needed an offensive HC). But the early signs are that this HC likes the sound of his own voice, and the way he looks in the mirror, a little more than the challenge of actually coaching. He needs to swallow his pride and start calling defensive plays from next week - and then, gradually, start learning at least something about the offensive side of the game. At the moment, he's trying to be a strategic, co-ordinating CEO-type HC without any experience or knowledge of what that takes. He's coming across as lazy and clueless, which I'm sure he's not."

Mac jones > zach Wilson though SB right? :)

"The twonks in the boardroom will give Saleh two seasons at least, I'm sure. But despite his good record as DC in San Francisco, I was sceptical about his appointment (primarily because it seemed obvious we needed an offensively minded HC, with a new QB etc). My gut feeling was that Saleh didn't yet look or feel like a HC. We'll give him time, I'm sure. But the early signs are not good. The guy looks like a bit of a lazy fraud at the moment."

"And the soppy HC needs to ditch this ""I'm not going to shout at the players"" crap...some of them need a rocket up their backsides. They start every game like a group of old women at a bridge table. Every single week. Every game is lost well before half-time. Somebody needs to cսnt him in the bastard. So far he's been the sort of HC who goes around telling everybody he's an NFL HC without actually doing any of the hard work required to succeed. Good players are regressing, bad players are getting worse or giving up...and yet another young QB is devoid of the right guidance. The QB is also now injured."

"Robert Saleh needs to stop being so fucking lazy, get off his bald, over-groomed meat-chunk ass, start calling some plays and start acting like a fucking head coach. We have seen absolutely NOTHING from him so far to suggest that he isn't just another good co-ordinator who isn't good enough to make the step up to HC. The fucking cսnt is trying to run before he can walk - he was a defensive co-ordinator and yet, in his first year as a head coach, he isn't even calling defensive plays. He's not as bad as Gase. But he is beginning to look, and sound, like another Todd Bowles or Mangina. He needs to win at least a couple of games in the second half of this season - and beat at least one half-decent side - to show that he has got some semblance of talent at HC. At the moment, he's too busy pretending to be a head coach to actually be a head coach. Fucker needs to get his hands dirty."

Way to go Cincinnati. Weren't expecting a blow out. And any Jets fans around here. You have my sympathies. Go G Men

The Ravens getting marmalised is the biggest surprise.

southbank must be going his nut. The 'Fins are conspiring to lose the Falcons (sigh).

"most painful skins team ever to watch, six times in the packers red zone and just ten points. heinicke one time just having to run the ball in from a couple of yards and puts his knee down at the one yard line. rivera getting very little out of these players, having his friends/friend's son as coordinators isn't really working out"

Starting to regret trading away j'mar chase!

"You'd think 22 women aren't separately making it up, so it's amazing anyone wants near him."

"22 separate women have filed sexual assault cases against him. I'm all for innocent till proven guilty but under these conditions, I wouldn't want him representing any team I paid to watch."

Trading for a QB who you don't know when he will be availalbe and might end up in prison is a ridiculous idea

Sounds like a trade of deshaun watson to the dolphins is getting closer

I don't think Derek Henry is human. He's a cyborg. You can almost see the Safety shitting himself at the thought of getting in his way when they're the last man and he has gathered up a head of steam. He's unstoppable and I can't believe his body continue to holds up to the battering he gives it.

Just caught up with the highlights. Derek Henry is totally ridiculous.

True enough and most seasons our fantasy league goes right down to the wire. Sadly I only seem to get one decent player performance a week. It'll be interesting to see how the bye weeks impact things now.