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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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Takashi Miike" wrote: 14 Jan 2025, 22:05
southbankbornnbred wrote: 14 Jan 2025, 18:12 Vrabel's inevitable decision to join the Patsies as HC means the Jets will probably end up with a risky hire. I think Woody was not expecting the Patriots to fire Mayo after one season - and assumed Vrabel would covet the Jets gig.

Thankfully, "insiders" seem to think Rex Ryan is out of the running for a return to New York.

Doesn't leave a crowded field. Looks more and more likely we will offer the role to Aaron Glenn. A Jets legend, but it's a huge step up for him as DC in Detroit to HC in New York. He's also regarded as the third-best coach in Detroit, after Campbell and Johnson (OC). Do we really want that?

I like him as a person. But it feels a bit Herm Edwards, and you have to wonder if that's an upgrade on Rob Saleh (which surely has to be the main aim of changing HCs?). Still, the fans like him and they will give him time to rebuild if he gets the job.




 
you've requested an interview with our DC, Joe Whitt Jr. a very good defensive mind, a great communicator/leader and someone with a lot of experience. we wouldn't want to lose him this early, especially as teams are also sniffing around Kingsbury. thankfully we have a succession plan on both sides of the ball, coaching wise, but don't want to lose anyone yet
Yeah, just seen that TM. It would be a left-field choice.

I like the sound of Whitt, especially as he has coaching experience on both sides of the ball. But he's probably been a bit of a "yes man" to Dan Quinn as your DC, which makes me skeptical about his ability to come in as a HC. Quinn is an excellent defensive mind - one of the best in the league - and he must surely be calling the shots on that side of things in Washington.

If we went after a Washington coach, surely we should be considering giving Kingsbury (OC) another shot at things?

At this stage, I think it's going to go to Aaron Glenn - who is, at least, running the show defensively in Detroit. Campbell and Johnson are both offensive specialists. So they've left Glenn to run the defense. My only doubt about Glenn is the basic (and most important Q): is he an upgrade on Saleh? No point sacking a HC if the guy coming in is not an improvement. Glenn might be. He might not be.

The other name seemingly in the frame is Arthur Smith, OC at Pittsburgh. But he really struggled without a decent QB when he was HC in Atlanta - and Pittsburgh's offense has been their Achilles heel this season.
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Hard to see beyond any of the home teams from the div round,  but stranger things have happened and got to be in it to win it.
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southbankbornnbred wrote: 14 Jan 2025, 18:12 Vrabel's inevitable decision to join the Patsies as HC means the Jets will probably end up with a risky hire. I think Woody was not expecting the Patriots to fire Mayo after one season - and assumed Vrabel would covet the Jets gig.

Thankfully, "insiders" seem to think Rex Ryan is out of the running for a return to New York.

Doesn't leave a crowded field. Looks more and more likely we will offer the role to Aaron Glenn. A Jets legend, but it's a huge step up for him as DC in Detroit to HC in New York. He's also regarded as the third-best coach in Detroit, after Campbell and Johnson (OC). Do we really want that?

I like him as a person. But it feels a bit Herm Edwards, and you have to wonder if that's an upgrade on Rob Saleh (which surely has to be the main aim of changing HCs?). Still, the fans like him and they will give him time to rebuild if he gets the job.



 
you've requested an interview with our DC, Joe Whitt Jr. a very good defensive mind, a great communicator/leader and someone with a lot of experience. we wouldn't want to lose him this early, especially as teams are also sniffing around Kingsbury. thankfully we have a succession plan on both sides of the ball, coaching wise, but don't want to lose anyone yet
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Vrabel's inevitable decision to join the Patsies as HC means the Jets will probably end up with a risky hire. I think Woody was not expecting the Patriots to fire Mayo after one season - and assumed Vrabel would covet the Jets gig.

Thankfully, "insiders" seem to think Rex Ryan is out of the running for a return to New York.

Doesn't leave a crowded field. Looks more and more likely we will offer the role to Aaron Glenn. A Jets legend, but it's a huge step up for him as DC in Detroit to HC in New York. He's also regarded as the third-best coach in Detroit, after Campbell and Johnson (OC). Do we really want that?

I like him as a person. But it feels a bit Herm Edwards, and you have to wonder if that's an upgrade on Rob Saleh (which surely has to be the main aim of changing HCs?). Still, the fans like him and they will give him time to rebuild if he gets the job.

 
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Have to say, I thought the Vikes would beat the Rams: so called that one badly!

Darnold is a half-decent QB, but his stunted growth at the Jets means he's probably not going to reach the heights his early promise indicated. He's certainly a better QB now than when we failed to teach him anything! Still struggles with double-team sets on his blind side. It was a problem for him from day one and we never helped him overcome it - he often steps right into danger. He could still do a decent job for a few teams next season and there will be a market for him. He's got a decent arm, as he showed this season.

RB is right - hard to see beyond the AFC's top sides: Chiefs, Bills and Ravens. Even the Texans defense looks bruising. Maybe only the Eagles will compete from the NFC. Everybody fancies Detroit, and I'd love to see them win it (if only to give hope to sides like the Jets), but I just get the feeling they will blow up when the pressure is on them. Probably a season too early for Washington, but Daniels has lit up that place.




 
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LA weren’t great.Good luck too Darnold getting that big money move. (Someone will pay it.) It doesn’t matter anyhow. After the weekend games. None of the NfC teams that played are laying a glove on any of the AFC teams that are left.!

GO G MEN.
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Far Cough UKunt" wrote: 14 Jan 2025, 08:45 Darnold got sacked nine fucking times, didn't see the game so I don't know if the O line was at fault or was it Darnold or the receivers or both???
I just don't think he can handle the pressure of the biggest games, Tampa couldn't have thrown more blitzes at our QB. Those last two games have possibly cost Darnold a fortune. Mccarthy will be an upgrade, once he's fit again
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Darnold got sacked nine fucking times, didn't see the game so I don't know if the O line was at fault or was it Darnold or the receivers or both???
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Yep, that's our season finished.
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ever since we drafted him, he's first in the building every morning (5am or earlier). said it many months ago that he's the best rookie qb I've seen in forty+ years, the amount of highlights/clutch moments he's produced in just one season is unreal, but he still stays humble

biggest credit though has to go to adam peters who brought in dan quinn, and the coach (and peters) who assembled the perfect staff and brought in legends like bobby wagner. just having bobby in the team lifts everybody, but for him to still be playing at probowl/allpro level shows what a great professional he is. now on to detroit 🙂
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Great win for Washington, that. TM probably doing cartwheels.

Daniels is a proper QB. Mayfield makes Tampa competitive.
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I love fake punts.
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Very disappointing this from the Steelers. I know they're the underdogs in this but showing absolutely no fight at all.
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Joe C" wrote: 10 Jan 2025, 13:54
Joe C" wrote: 10 Jan 2025, 13:44 I am reliably informed that the Jets and the Browns will be the home teams for the London games at Tottenham this year
Of course, now on the BBC
I saw the Vikings v Browns at Twickenham a few years back.
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Joe C" wrote: 10 Jan 2025, 13:44 I am reliably informed that the Jets and the Browns will be the home teams for the London games at Tottenham this year
Of course, now on the BBC
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I am reliably informed that the Jets and the Browns will be the home teams for the London games at Tottenham this year
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Saleh's biggest failure was allowing the GM & Rodgers bring in that useless fucker as the OC. Defensively, while he was HC, you were very good
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There's also a chance that teams will use him to fulfill the Rooney Rule on HCs this off-season. He's part-Lebanese, so counts as a "minority" candidate.

After the chaos of New York, he could do without being used as window dressing.
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Looks like Robert Saleh will have a lot of interest in him over the off season, after leaving the Jets.

Sounds like the 49ers want him back as DC. Also sounds like the Jags and Raiders might interview him over their HC positions.

I know he has been a HC, and he probably wants another shot at it. It's also significantly better money.
But if I were Saleh I'd seriously consider any offer from the 49ers for now. He could do with licking his wounds for a bit and rebuilding his confidence and experience.

His time as HC at the Jets highlighted some key flaws - almost all of them on his leadership (terrible clock management, poor coaching in the trenches and penalties records). He was especially clueless on the offensive side of the ball. It's unlikely he'll have eradicated those before going back in as a HC so quickly (although he did spend some time in Green Bay, as an offense consultant, after leaving New York).

I like Rob Saleh as a person: he's young and he will be back. But another HC failure so quickly after the Jets could really stymie his career. He needs to do a Pete Carroll/Todd Bowles and take his time.
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RBshorty wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:52
southbankbornnbred wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:31 I see the Jags predictably parted ways with Doug Pederson as HC.

They will, I'm sure, offer big money to Ben Johnson (like other teams).

Now, this might not be a popular opinion, but I like the look of Pederson for the Jets...but not as a HC. The Jets should snap him up as a well-paid OC. He runs the kind of offense that Jordan Travis could do well in (presuming we move on from Rodgers), and he also likes to run the ball more these days.

With Vrabel now almost certain to head to the Patsies, Jets should make the call to Aaron Glenn (DC in Detroit) as a new young HC, and pair him up immediately with a grizzled offensive mind (who plays a lot of read-option stuff) as his OC and assistant head coach. It will take a lot of pressure off a young new HC and allow Glenn to focus on defense and getting used to the bigger job.
Can't see myself South. Tennessee have more to offer.And when all is said and done. Your'e still answering to Woody. It's a mess.!
Hey RB. The thing in the Jets' favour with Aaron Glenn is that he is a massive Jets man. He was a pro-bowl cornerback in New York, and played eight seasons for us. He's also already worked on the backroom staff, as a scout, a few years ago. If it was a straight choice as HC of either Tennessee or the Jets for him, I'd be surprised if he chose the Titans.

I know what you're saying about Woody. Although, he could end up over here as Trump's ambassador once again. So the new coach might end up having to deal with Woody's brother, Chris. He's a similar character, but was less hands-on when he ran the show in Woody's previous absence. We'd need a good GM.

The fans would get behind Glenn, given his link to the side. But the bigger issue might be that he's entirely unproven as a HC and he's quite possibly the third-best coach in Detroit (after Campbell and Johnson). While he's popular, in some ways he's less proven than Saleh was when he got the job.
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southbankbornnbred wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:31 I see the Jags predictably parted ways with Doug Pederson as HC.

They will, I'm sure, offer big money to Ben Johnson (like other teams).

Now, this might not be a popular opinion, but I like the look of Pederson for the Jets...but not as a HC. The Jets should snap him up as a well-paid OC. He runs the kind of offense that Jordan Travis could do well in (presuming we move on from Rodgers), and he also likes to run the ball more these days.

With Vrabel now almost certain to head to the Patsies, Jets should make the call to Aaron Glenn (DC in Detroit) as a new young HC, and pair him up immediately with a grizzled offensive mind (who plays a lot of read-option stuff) as his OC and assistant head coach. It will take a lot of pressure off a young new HC and allow Glenn to focus on defense and getting used to the bigger job.
Can't see myself South. Tennessee have more to offer.And when all is said and done. Your'e still answering to Woody. It's a mess.!
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