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Posted: **26 May 2025, 20:02**

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence.

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
James Trafford | GK | Burnley
Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
James McAtee | AM | Man City
Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
John Victor | GK | Botofogo
Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
Nga Makou | CM | Lille
Quinten Timber | CM
Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
Brad Dolaghan | Released
Dondre Abraham | Released
Mehmet Halim | Released
Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
Michail Antonio | Released
Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
Emerson | Marseille | £1m
Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

Posted: **09 Jul 2025, 07:39**

Kilman isn’t going anywhere soon. Foolishly, we have given him his career-defining contract. He’s on more money here than he’ll get anywhere else, and he’s contracted for another six years - because we attempted a two-bob version of Chelsea’s finances/wage trick, but with a bang average player.

It is not Kilman’s fault: anybody would have accepted those terms. That one is on the Spanish Steve McClaren.

But he ain’t going anywhere soon.

Posted: **09 Jul 2025, 06:33**

onsideman wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 23:41
stubbo-admin wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 22:41 I get the perspective, but my view is it's wrong. If Kudus goes to Spurs he'll rip it up playing counter attack off the right for Frank.

Paqueta has had a huge weight on him for almost 2 years. If he gets off he'll shine again.

Alvarez is a quality CDM but does need legs around him. But if take him over our other central mid every day.

These players are not the problem. The problem is Soucek and Ward Prowse, Areola, and frankly the left back spot. Love Scarles but he's a long way from having a real impact going forwards.

At striker, we're short but Fullkrug is a quality player and decent hold up no. 9. Just needs service.

We should be busting a gut to shift Irving, Ward Prowse, Emerson, Areola, Rodriguez, and to be perfectly honest, Kilman. These are the guys holding us back...not Alvarez, Paqueta, Kudus and Fullkrug.

Agree wholeheartedly with your final.paragraph

I also agree that Soucek, Ward-Prowse, Areola and current left back options are suspect (sorry Scarles)

Given that you're diggng out 6 or 7 players, why are you blaming a manager who didn't ask for any of them?

Because he has been unable to galvanise or get a tune out of the clearly talented players we do have, or to get the the team playing in a way that suits them.

He is basically putting his way of playing above what is good for the Club.

Not saying he's the only manager to do that kind of thing, but the reality is he should assess the squad, look at the real talent in the squad, look at their strengths, and seek to maximise it. If he wants to then change what that looks like, make it a gradual process of iteration, not trying and rip the bandaid off without the means to deal with the blood letting to follow.

Moyes had lost it, and I wanted him gone for sure, but one thing he didnt struggle with was getting our big players playing well and scoring goals. In a season where we shipped 80-odd, we scored enough to finish mid table.

So that's why I'm digging him out. I could accept he we were maximising these talented players and kept getting let down by the also-rans we have...if the big players play well, you can sell one at true value to strengthen with two or three. But if you don't you end up with the current state....a player like Kudus whose value has plummeted and hawking him around.

And if the good players play well, they make the lesser players around them play and look better. Creating time and space for them.

But he hasn't been able to do any of that. He's brought the good players down to the shit players level with his "brand" of slow, sideways cautious football. If they don't want to be here, it's as much on him as anything else. Good players recognise they have short careers, and don't like losing.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 23:41**

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 22:41 I get the perspective, but my view is it's wrong. If Kudus goes to Spurs he'll rip it up playing counter attack off the right for Frank.

Paqueta has had a huge weight on him for almost 2 years. If he gets off he'll shine again.

Alvarez is a quality CDM but does need legs around him. But if take him over our other central mid every day.

These players are not the problem. The problem is Soucek and Ward Prowse, Areola, and frankly the left back spot. Love Scarles but he's a long way from having a real impact going forwards.

At striker, we're short but Fullkrug is a quality player and decent hold up no. 9. Just needs service.

We should be busting a gut to shift Irving, Ward Prowse, Emerson, Areola, Rodriguez, and to be perfectly honest, Kilman. These are the guys holding us back...not Alvarez, Paqueta, Kudus and Fullkrug.

Agree wholeheartedly with your final.paragraph

I also agree that Soucek, Ward-Prowse, Areola and current left back options are suspect (sorry Scarles)

Given that you're diggng out 6 or 7 players, why are you blaming a manager who didn't ask for any of them?

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 23:31**

Although your hitting the nail on head there Stub. Maybe. Just maybe. Them players we should be keeping. Want out. And them players who should be shown the exit. Don’t want to leave our well payed employment.?

This starts and stops with the board. Everything else is just noise.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 22:41**

I get the perspective, but my view is it's wrong. If Kudus goes to Spurs he'll rip it up playing counter attack off the right for Frank.

Paqueta has had a huge weight on him for almost 2 years. If he gets off he'll shine again.

Alvarez is a quality CDM but does need legs around him. But if take him over our other central mid every day.

These players are not the problem. The problem is Soucek and Ward Prowse, Areola, and frankly the left back spot. Love Scarles but he's a long way from having a real impact going forwards.

At striker, we're short but Fullkrug is a quality player and decent hold up no. 9. Just needs service.

We should be busting a gut to shift Irving, Ward Prowse, Emerson, Areola, Rodriguez, and to be perfectly honest, Kilman. These are the guys holding us back...not Alvarez, Paqueta, Kudus and Fullkrug.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 21:35**

We're making a big mistake by not taking the opportunity to sell the old German cart horse this summer, whilst we still can for good money. Then what we would get for him should be ploughed back in to the Squad for another much younger, fitter, more reliable player. Otherwise I fear history repeating itself.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 21:22**

This club baffles the fuck out of me
all we seem to be linked with at the moment is defenders,
while I can admit our defence is pretty poor, the biggest issue we have lies with our central midfield and need of a striker
Why on Earth for the third season in a row are these issues not a priority?

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 21:14**

Yes... that works for 23-24 Kudus, 22-24 Paqueta and Champions League Fullkrug. Now? Not so sure

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 21:03**

I'd say that Paq, Kudus, Fullkrug and (let's say Bowen) are like the icing on the cake or the decorations on the christmas tree. They look great and work well when they sit atop a well made cake or a sturdy tree. Problem for us is that we completely lack the cake or the tree to place them on. They are a castle standing on sand because there's simply not a solid spine of a team to make good use of them. We don't have good CBs or CDMs to provide the platform for them to perform. They do need that. They would all look better, for us, if we had some decent players backing them up. That's our problem, we absolutely don't.

This is why people look at our team sheet and scratch their heads as to why we are where we are, just noticing those names. Not the almost uniformly poor rest of the side, barring only 1-2 players.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 20:51**

And on Kudus, stubbo... of the 4 teams you've mentioned only one has bid. It seems Newcastle are buying Elanga, Arsenal are buying Madueke and Chelsea re buying Gittens

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 20:46**

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 20:22 Frankly I'd be perfectly happy to keep Kudus, Paqueta, and Alvarez.

Id take much greater pleasure in the removal of Potter.

These are players that if they leave, we will almost certainly buy inferior replacements.

It's a damning indictment on Potter than Moyes could get a pretty consistent tune out of them, but Potter can't.

We need a striker of course as we can't rely on Fullkrug the whole season. But front line options of Fullkrug, (Striker), Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta, Summerville, Guilherme is an embarrassment of riches for a club in our position.

The issue is the manager failing to set the team up to play to the strength of this quality set of players, that almost any team in the league outside the top 4 would be fucking delighted to have on their books.

On Kudus...for fucks sake....Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle, Chelsea....all credited with having a notable interest. All Clubs we are MILES away from competing with. Some how he's good enough for them, but not for us?

Wake up...the cunts in charge at our place are pulling a fast one convincing us that out best players are the problem and we need to sell them in order to get in some cheap punts from The Czech and Danish leagues.

Who's the bigger problems? That list of players....or Sullivan, Brady and Potter?

Yet our fans seem collectively for us to be baying to get shot of these high calibre footballers.

Kudus doesn't want to be here and was awful for Lopetegui AND Potter
Paqueta hasn't played well for over a year and may be banned
Alvarez is too slow for the Premier League
I'm sorry but I think you're delusional

Someone said earlier on this thread that our squad is better than Palace, Bournemouth and Fulham and I challenged them to state which of ours would be guaranteed starters for all of them. No response.

Our problem runs deeper than Potter

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 20:22**

Frankly I'd be perfectly happy to keep Kudus, Paqueta, and Alvarez.

Id take much greater pleasure in the removal of Potter.

These are players that if they leave, we will almost certainly buy inferior replacements.

It's a damning indictment on Potter than Moyes could get a pretty consistent tune out of them, but Potter can't.

We need a striker of course as we can't rely on Fullkrug the whole season. But front line options of Fullkrug, (Striker), Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta, Summerville, Guilherme is an embarrassment of riches for a club in our position.

The issue is the manager failing to set the team up to play to the strength of this quality set of players, that almost any team in the league outside the top 4 would be fucking delighted to have on their books.

On Kudus...for fucks sake....Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle, Chelsea....all credited with having a notable interest. All Clubs we are MILES away from competing with. Some how he's good enough for them, but not for us?

Wake up...the cunts in charge at our place are pulling a fast one convincing us that out best players are the problem and we need to sell them in order to get in some cheap punts from The Czech and Danish leagues.

Who's the bigger problems? That list of players....or Sullivan, Brady and Potter?

Yet our fans seem collectively for us to be baying to get shot of these high calibre footballers.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 20:02**

I agree with what all of you have been saying, with regards to our board and it’s absolute incompetence.

But, with regards to Kudus, I have it on very good authority that he has been living on a housing complex in Waltham Abbey, the whole time he’s been with us.

I wouldn’t mind betting he’s been eyeing a move to Tottenham or Arsenal since day 1.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 19:47**

We ain't going anywhere as a club. And unfortunately neither are the owners. So cunting off players. Who may go or stay is ridiculous. Because if any of us had these owners as your boss. We would all be looking for the exit.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 19:07**

Sullivan offered his nuts up to Levy on a golden platter. And presented him with a solid gold nutcracker. Completely shot himself in the foot and outwitted himself on this one.

If you will hawk the player around openly while at the same time shouting you're desperate to sell as you can't buy anyone until you do, then what do you expect. What a fucking genius.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 18:35**

fraser wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 18:28 Not to mention all the normal "I want to go there" bullshit that the club are using to make it look like he's being a cսnt when really it's just the usual cսnt doing the cunting

Exactly.

Sullivan will paint Kudus as the villain when really it’s the midget pulling his usual shit.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 18:28**

Not to mention all the normal "I want to go there" bullshit that the club are using to make it look like he's being a cսnt when really it's just the usual cսnt doing the cunting

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 18:23**

I don’t blame Kudus, the club have told the whole world that we need to sell him to raise funds. He wants to stay in the PL no matter how much we try and push him
to Saudi.

Levy has us by the nuts. It’s just another indication of how poorly the club is run.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 18:17**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 14:55
fraser wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 14:32 Forest were ridiculed on here for their transfer strategy, Them and Villa so close to relegation and look at them both now. We had a massive chance to kick on but between Sullivan and Moyes we weren't brave enough to take it.

It makes me feel sick knowing we paid £40m for Kilman only to see Milenkovic, who is a far, far better player, move at a fraction of that price to them.

Im gonna say it, by the end of this coming season, everyone will be aware that Mavropanos is better than Killman.

It's as low as a bar can get admittedly.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 18:14**

Why the fuck are West Ham supporters, discussing some sulky shitcunt of a player,on the merits of whether or not, he is better off going to either one of those dirty stinking shitcunt clubs.

Fucking hell - this place really has turned into KUMB.

It was an absolute fucking disgrace last season, with regards to the manner in which we sold our best player in a couple of generations to that other shitcunt club in North London.

As a club, we're now more than likely, going to match or surpass that.

It just shows the complete and utter contempt the board has for our support - no fucking change there.

We're a fucking joke of a club - and judging by the comments i see across social media sites, so are a lot of our 'fans'.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 16:24**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 14:55
fraser wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 14:32 Forest were ridiculed on here for their transfer strategy, Them and Villa so close to relegation and look at them both now. We had a massive chance to kick on but between Sullivan and Moyes we weren't brave enough to take it.

It makes me feel sick knowing we paid £40m for Kilman only to see Milenkovic, who is a far, far better player, move at a fraction of that price to them.

Especially given that, anecdotally at least, we were linked with him for a long time before Forest and long before Lopetegui persuaded Sullivan to break the bank for a defender that seemingly no one else was chasing

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 15:19**

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 15:10
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 14:28
Yes, I think the only positive would be Madueke going to Arsenal might reignite Chelsea's appetite- if it happens. Kudus would need his head examined if he just dismissed them in favour of spurs.

The only thing is that (unlikely though it seems) Kudus might be intelligent enough to realise that, at 24, for his long term career, opting for a club whose manager plays a style that suits him is more important than just going to the biggest club, especially if both clubs are in the Champions League.

Thomas Frank likes direct play with overlapping full backs and the wide forwards cutting inside, which is ideal for Kudus. Maresca on the other hand likes lots of possession, inverted full backs and the wingers staying high and wide, which doesn't suit Kudus anywhere near as much. To be honest, he'd be a mug if he didn't do his utmost to join Spurs. Hopefully he is.

True. You can see how he'd have been a huge asset for the type of football Brentford played under him. I'm just annoyed he wasn't greedy enough to just go to Saudi for a stupid fee.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 15:18**

With the ridiculous value to be found all over the place- seemingly- by numerous other teams, the Kilman deal just looks worse and worse as time goes on. 40 million. 100k a week. 7 years. We're not shifting him for the duration of that when he's 34, and he'd be mad to move unless he's desperate to play first team football but for a huge pay cut. How many of these shithouse deals has Sullivan tied us into over the years? Just like living on loans secured against future income year to year, it's all hand to mouth and there's just zero long term thinking. It would be so fucking easy to change as well. There's literal evidence of about 5-6 teams in the same division who manage it with a lot less resource than us. We're stalled while others are streaking past us.

Forest did look like a target for ridicule two years ago with their 'sling everything at the wall and see what sticks' philosophy and staying up by the skin of their teeth, and yes it could easily have gone wrong but it's worked out for them and they look fairly upwardly mobile and sustainable now, even if they regress and finish mid table. They are still streets ahead of us at this point.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 15:10**

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑08 Jul 2025, 14:28
Yes, I think the only positive would be Madueke going to Arsenal might reignite Chelsea's appetite- if it happens. Kudus would need his head examined if he just dismissed them in favour of spurs.

The only thing is that (unlikely though it seems) Kudus might be intelligent enough to realise that, at 24, for his long term career, opting for a club whose manager plays a style that suits him is more important than just going to the biggest club, especially if both clubs are in the Champions League.

Thomas Frank likes direct play with overlapping full backs and the wide forwards cutting inside, which is ideal for Kudus. Maresca on the other hand likes lots of possession, inverted full backs and the wingers staying high and wide, which doesn't suit Kudus anywhere near as much. To be honest, he'd be a mug if he didn't do his utmost to join Spurs. Hopefully he is.

Posted: **08 Jul 2025, 15:02**

The “Sullivan Effect” in full force. About 3-4 weeks before we see last ditch moves via trusted agents. He only has a month to keep getting the optics right and look like we really “ tried” but ultimately fail getting Macaulay and Potter’s preferred targets. So expect the noise of bids ( too low, silly terms, refusal to pay unknown agents leading to transfer collapses etc ) over the next 3 or so weeks.

Can someone list the players on the books of Salthouse, Silkman, Mackay and any other known agent sychophant, mates of Sully. Callum Wilson the obvious one?

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