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Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 26 May 2025, 20:02
by stubbo-admin
May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.
Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?
Window this close season comes in two parts:
Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September
Rumoured Outs...most of the squad
Let the "Rumoured In's" commence.
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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)
Rumoured In
- Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
- Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
- Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
- Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
- Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
- Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
- James Trafford | GK | Burnley
- Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
- Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
- CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
- Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
- Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
- Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
- Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
- Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
- James McAtee | AM | Man City
- Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
- Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
- Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
- Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
- Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
- Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
- Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
- Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
- Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
- Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
- Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
- Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
- Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
- Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
- Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
- Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
- El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
- Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
- Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
- Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
- Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
- John Victor | GK | Botofogo
- Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
- Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
- Nga Makou | CM | Lille
- Quinten Timber | CM
- Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
- Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs
Rumoured Out
- Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
- Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
- Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
- Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
- Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
- Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
- Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
- Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
- Emerson | LB | Marseille
Confirmed In
- Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
- Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
- El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
- Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
- C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
- Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
- Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
- Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
- Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)
Confirmed Out
- Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
- Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
- Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
- Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
- Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
- Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
- Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
- Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
- Brad Dolaghan | Released
- Dondre Abraham | Released
- Mehmet Halim | Released
- Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
- Michail Antonio | Released
- Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
- Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
- Emerson | Marseille | £1m
- Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
- Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 13:36
by goose
John Drake" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 13:27
You are wrong. Please check your working
https://swissramble.substack.com/p/west ... ces-202324
I'm not.
EBITDA of £55m
less player amortisation of £(83)m
depreciation of £(2)m
gets you an operating profit of £(30)m
profit on players £96m
gets you £65m profit before tax/interest.
the EBIDTA reflects profit outside of player amortisation and profit on sales.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 13:29
by John Drake
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 13:27
by John Drake
You are wrong. Please check your working
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 13:25
by goose
the loss was driven by player trading.
outside of player trading we made a profit.
the issue is our player trading............ we're not very good at it.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 13:22
by John Drake
West Ham made a 30 million operating loss in the last financial accounts.
The move from Upton Park to Stratford only earned approx 10 million in the first season. Revenues have since increased in line with a general uplift in EPL
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 12:55
by eusebiovic
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 11:38
goose, but he/they knew that before moving us to that shithole in stratford. it was all done on lies, the next level was bullshit and the way they've wasted money (on depreciating talent due to shit managers) was always unsustainable. he/they either need to sell up, or attract increasingly more negativity and hatred from those still bothering to go over there
My feelings entirely.
If you buy a football club then every process within it has to be hugely improved or what is the actual point?
They have a bigger stadium which has almost doubled the revenue but we're stuck with an inefficient, crusty old dinosaur who still manages it like when he bought Birmingham City over 30 years ago.
it's run like his own personal fiefdom - dictator style.
It ain't getting any better, don't hope for it or expect it to happen even if you're an eternal optimist...there is no plan in place other than his own exclusive mindset.
We're well and truly fucked.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 12:43
by goose
That’s excluding player trading. Day to day running of the club.
it will include a higher league finish and an element of European football. I doubt we will make a profit in the season just finished.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 12:38
by Takashi Miike
aren't those accounts backdated (a year behind) to include the rice sale? I wouldn't be worried about the future if the midget cսnt allowed a coach to bring through, and build a team with a base from the younger age teams but it's clear that strategy blocks purchases and ultimately, agent commissions. I think the club died the day they walked through the door
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 12:15
by goose
the counter argument is that only 1 PL club made an operating profit LY outside of player trading - and that was us.
we make that profit in part because we dont own a stadium.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 11:38
by Takashi Miike
goose, but he/they knew that before moving us to that shithole in stratford. it was all done on lies, the next level was bullshit and the way they've wasted money (on depreciating talent due to shit managers) was always unsustainable. he/they either need to sell up, or attract increasingly more negativity and hatred from those still bothering to go over there
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 11:27
by goose
if we do not sell Kudus + a few others then we're fucked. we are basically sat around waiting for them to decide their futures before we can do anything. meanwhile we will likely miss out on players that we really want/need.
on the point of ownership, Sullivan just doesn't have the money to run a PL club. His biggest asset is the club and it doesnt make any money. I'm not going to blame him for not wanting to throw his own money down the toilet, but he must realise that he cannot afford to move the club on.
problem is, the top 6 have locked down the league with PSR so nobody can actually come in and invest in a club.
next season will be a right laugh...........
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 11:18
by Lee Trundle
Rossal wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 11:16
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 10:17
Rossal wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 10:13
Have i missed something? If we ship out JWP for £15m and get Brownhill in on a free how is that not good business?
JWP is bang average, good stats, mainly from set pieces at Southampton which he has dried up at.
Its a like for like with £15m in the bank to buy someone else.
I'd take that.
But who's going to pay that for JWP? He hasn't been linked to anyone and seemed a Potter favourite towards the end of the season.
I figured we're getting Brownhill to flip him as soon as possible for PSR.
Might be wishful thinking, but any cash for JWP and getting a replacement on a free is good business from us. Brownhill seems to get around the pitch, just had his best goal scoring season and seems great in the dressing room and was captain in a side that got promoted.
Happy with the deal to bulk out an area that we need numbers in if it means funds can go elsewhere.
Looks like we've missed out on Egan- Reilly though to Marseille, which is massively disappointing. Again area we need, home grown and great season last year......what are we doing letting him go there?!
I think it's more of a case he's been enticed by the prospect of playing in the Champions League with them.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 11:16
by Rossal
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 10:17
Rossal wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 10:13
Have i missed something? If we ship out JWP for £15m and get Brownhill in on a free how is that not good business?
JWP is bang average, good stats, mainly from set pieces at Southampton which he has dried up at.
Its a like for like with £15m in the bank to buy someone else.
I'd take that.
But who's going to pay that for JWP? He hasn't been linked to anyone and seemed a Potter favourite towards the end of the season.
I figured we're getting Brownhill to flip him as soon as possible for PSR.
Might be wishful thinking, but any cash for JWP and getting a replacement on a free is good business from us. Brownhill seems to get around the pitch, just had his best goal scoring season and seems great in the dressing room and was captain in a side that got promoted.
Happy with the deal to bulk out an area that we need numbers in if it means funds can go elsewhere.
Looks like we've missed out on Egan- Reilly though to Marseille, which is massively disappointing. Again area we need, home grown and great season last year......what are we doing letting him go there?!
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 10:42
by Pav BML
Surprised how many people turning their nose up at Brownhill. Admittedly not the most exciting signing but will be a strong squad option, I am sure he won't be the only one that we buy in central midfield.
Someone we should be all over is Tanganga from Millwall. Will be good to get a strong English base in there again
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 10:17
by Lee Trundle
Rossal wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 10:13
Have i missed something? If we ship out JWP for £15m and get Brownhill in on a free how is that not good business?
JWP is bang average, good stats, mainly from set pieces at Southampton which he has dried up at.
Its a like for like with £15m in the bank to buy someone else.
I'd take that.
But who's going to pay that for JWP? He hasn't been linked to anyone and seemed a Potter favourite towards the end of the season.
I figured we're getting Brownhill to flip him as soon as possible for PSR.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 10:13
by Rossal
Have i missed something? If we ship out JWP for £15m and get Brownhill in on a free how is that not good business?
JWP is bang average, good stats, mainly from set pieces at Southampton which he has dried up at.
Its a like for like with £15m in the bank to buy someone else.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 09:47
by Massive Attack
Yep, the last time he got a young promising Striker, he hardly used them. He'd only end up keeping Duran on the Bench for 4 years.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 09:25
by Takashi Miike
he's not a defender/defensive midfielder, correct
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 09:14
by twoleftfeet
I don't think Duran is a player that Potter would want.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 08:46
by Massive Attack
Texas Iron" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 03:19
Typical smoke and mirrors from The Dwarf and his cronies…
Wont believe anything unless signed…
We all know how it goes…
“ We Tried…They Lied… Player’s Unreasonable demands…We won’t be the United Statesheld to ransom etc etc…
Two Bob Barrow Boys owners… Cheapskates…
100% Texas.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 07:52
by Takashi Miike
It's becoming clearer now why Potter was given that longer deal, rather than the initial alleged six month trial . Keep your trap shut, don't make a sound about transfers and do as your told. All that "The Board couldn't have done more for me" bollocks in January. Only given that flash useless cսnt Ferguson, and nothing since. Suddenly we go from bidding 50m+ for Duran, to being skint. Openly telling your playing squad they're free to go. And all the whole the loyal glove puppet cunts like Whetstone, Ex, Steinberg, Etc continuing to wind up the masses for the benefit of that 4ft shitbag & his tory peer accomplice
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 06:29
by stubbo
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 23:56
Duran rumours will help appease fans as we try to ramp up season ticket sales while not spending a bean and pleading poverty while we wait for clubs to meet our unrealistic fees on “for sale” players. Another 4-6 weeks before any action at best. All points to a bunch of last minute transfer deals after the season has kicked off, Potter and Macaulay targets conveniently missed and Sullivan being the master “gatekeeper” and filling the gaps with freebies, loans and bargain deals via his network of “trusted” ( cough) agents.
Let's call it what it is...Sullivan filling his bank account with Club funds from kickbacks through dealing with agents he has a personally beneficial relationship with (allegedly...my lawyers have instructed SWT).
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 03:19
by Texas Iron
Typical smoke and mirrors from The Dwarf and his cronies…
Wont believe anything unless signed…
We all know how it goes…
“ We Tried…They Lied… Player’s Unreasonable demands…We won’t be the United Statesheld to ransom etc etc…
Two Bob Barrow Boys owners… Cheapskates…
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Jun 2025, 23:56
by Sir Alf
Duran rumours will help appease fans as we try to ramp up season ticket sales while not spending a bean and pleading poverty while we wait for clubs to meet our unrealistic fees on “for sale” players. Another 4-6 weeks before any action at best. All points to a bunch of last minute transfer deals after the season has kicked off, Potter and Macaulay targets conveniently missed and Sullivan being the master “gatekeeper” and filling the gaps with freebies, loans and bargain deals via his network of “trusted” ( cough) agents.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 12 Jun 2025, 23:44
by Steady
Jhon Duran on loan rumours doing the rounds, swap deal for Kudus anyone!!