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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Keir Starmer is to address Musk’s grooming gang comments tomorrow. Unless it’s to agree to a full open inquiry into this horrific scandal, he’s only going to tighten his own noose.

It’s also the day the 3m+ petition calling for another general election is to be debated. 

I hope they pressure him to fall on his sword for the sake of the party or call an election to prove his horrendous reign has the support of the people.

We’ll see about how important those working class people really are to the Labour government part of the establishment pretty soon.

Seems a bit harsh having to deal with someone who has done nothing wrong. It's a sign of their cowardice that they are so afraid of him.

RE your other point. Do you really think the establishment hold any feelings of guilt towards the victims of the rape gangs?
Of course they don't, these were working class kids from working class communities, they are of no importance to the establishment.

 

I think the English establishment is strong enough to deal with its guilt on the grooming and deal with Yaxley-Lennon at its leisure.

Musk is a very dangerous man.

Yaxley Lennon called out the gangs years ago but no one listened, instead he got called a racist thug and was turned into a bogeyman. Turns out he was dead right and if half of the people who denigrate him actually listened to him rather than pre judge, they'd find that his views align with those of  about 75% of the population. He has big big issues with radical Islam but that doesn't make him a racist.
As for Farage, he seemscto have done an about turn and is becoming part of what he fought against for a long time, I think his throwing of YL under the bus may come back to bite him on the arse.

I think even Farage has not been by able to accept Musk promoting Yaxley-Lennon on the back of the grooming affair. 

Musk is a dangerous man.

What do you mean by 'our' This may rattle you a tad but there are some people who have views that are completely opposite to yours. That doesn't make you wrong but it doesn't make you right either. I for instance can't agree with you on Trump,I'll reserve judgement on him til he's been I office for a while and if I'm proved wrong I'll gladly say so.

I think our main concern is with Musk and his leering lapdog Trump whatever grievance we may have with our own establishment. 

The ' English establishment' will look after it's own, anyone else can go and whistle. As rotten as it is, it'll be this way indefinitely. 

WELL YOU’VE CERTAINLY CHANGED YOUR TUNE.

seen the huge elephants in the room have you, and this time it’s not down to the copious amounts of vodka swilling round your bloodstream?

Seems Musk has opted ditch Farage and support Yaxley-Lennon as he plays the grooming scandal frenzy like a fiddle.

So I very much hope the English establishment doesn’t sleep through this wake-up call and really starts taking care of the vulnerable in places like Oldham and Rotherham. Also that those who enabled those grooming gangs in the full social and economic sense are brought swiftly and firmly to justice.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Jan 2025, 20:14

 

That Brendan O'Neill is a good comentator on there.

  

Very soon it’ll be set into law that you cannot criticise Islam, unless you want to be arrested for islamaphobia.

Massive.

Yep, been a fan of his (and spiked) for a few years now. His last book, 'after the pogrom' is a cracking read, really digs into the insane reaction in the west to the events on and after 7th Octobe 23. 

only1billybonds wrote: ↑05 Jan 2025, 12:16 Good piece in Spiked about the subject, the paragraphs that talk about operation Augusta (halfway down) are particularly enlightening.



https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/01/0 ... ing-point/

 

The rape gangs fiasco should have caused a civil war, but the establishment have stacked the chips so high against the general population that descent means societal excommunication and potentially prison. 

Let’s be clear regarding the rape gangs, they are all from one particular racial group and that group uses the ideology they follow to justify their actions. The end result should be remove executable anyone involved, including those actively working to cover it up. 

As far as I know, Turkish, Albanian, Arab and other groups who follow the Islamic faith are not involved in the rape gangs. 

The fact that this is now getting significant media attention is purely because of one man on another continent not within reach of corrupt UK judges and politicians. 



 

Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 22:49 Yes, paedos come in all races, religions. But what is significant about the muslim r@p3 gangs is for over 25+years (still going on) they systemicly targeted white children/girls and were protected/covered up by governments, councils, police and msm. Now the left are more outraged by musk using is voice to shine a light on these atrocities then the crime itself. All for what? Multiculturalism. Multiraces work, multiculture doesn't. You can support BLM, Palestine/Hamas but god forbid you can't support white children/girls who are r@p3d

Good piece in Spiked about the subject, the paragraphs that talk about operation Augusta (halfway down) are particularly enlightening.



https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/01/0 ... ing-point/

Yes, paedos come in all races, religions. But what is significant about the muslim r@p3 gangs is for over 25+years (still going on) they systemicly targeted white children/girls and were protected/covered up by governments, councils, police and msm. Now the left are more outraged by musk using is voice to shine a light on these atrocities then the crime itself. All for what? Multiculturalism. Multiraces work, multiculture doesn't. You can support BLM, Palestine/Hamas but god forbid you can't support white children/girls who are r@p3d

violator wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:33

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:22

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 14:34

 

I think it’d be a win for everyone if you just ban Pickle. It can’t be good for his mental health to get so much abuse day in day out by so many people, no matter how much seems to crave it. It would certainly take away the black cloud he swamps over every thread he appears on. Should have happened 10 years ago.

Anyway, a strong contender of the most whiney, emotionally contorted post of 2025 already. 

I think my ironymeter just exploded 

goose wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:28

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:22

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 14:34

 

I think it’d be a win for everyone if you just ban Pickle. It can’t be good for his mental health to get so much abuse day in day out by so many people, no matter how much seems to crave it. It would certainly take away the black cloud he swamps over every thread he appears on. Should have happened 10 years ago.

Anyway, a strong contender of the most whiney, emotionally contorted post of 2025 already. 

Says the poster who went crying to the mods because he didn’t like the hurty words some people posted.

 

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:22

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 14:34

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:48 I'm bowing out of this thread and trying to police it.

Other mods can decide appropriate course of action for all concerned as it's a no-win position.

 

I think it’d be a win for everyone if you just ban Pickle. It can’t be good for his mental health to get so much abuse day in day out by so many people, no matter how much seems to crave it. It would certainly take away the black cloud he swamps over every thread he appears on. Should have happened 10 years ago.

Anyway, a strong contender of the most whiney, emotionally contorted post of 2025 already. 

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:22

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 14:34

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:48 I'm bowing out of this thread and trying to police it.

Other mods can decide appropriate course of action for all concerned as it's a no-win position.

 

I think it’d be a win for everyone if you just ban Pickle. It can’t be good for his mental health to get so much abuse day in day out by so many people, no matter how much seems to crave it. It would certainly take away the black cloud he swamps over every thread he appears on. Should have happened 10 years ago.

Anyway, a strong contender of the most whiney, emotionally contorted post of 2025 already. 

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 14:34

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:48 I'm bowing out of this thread and trying to police it.

Other mods can decide appropriate course of action for all concerned as it's a no-win position.

 

I think it’d be a win for everyone if you just ban Pickle. It can’t be good for his mental health to get so much abuse day in day out by so many people, no matter how much seems to crave it. It would certainly take away the black cloud he swamps over every thread he appears on. Should have happened 10 years ago.

Cabbige Savage" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:11

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:06

Cabbige Savage" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 21:04

be like like my firend and bow be four halal butcher 

Yes. Like like I’m terrified of him selling me a leg of lamb

he only sell mutton to you