Nuno Out
Posted: 27 Sep 2025, 11:00
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twoleftfeet wrote: ↑30 Nov 2025, 16:17 Oh shut up you tarts. Replacing managers clearly doesn’t work. Give him some time.
Rossal wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025, 07:47El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 17:52Its easy to say that after the fact. It had worked effectively in the previous two games so it was the logical move. If he didn't do it and we'd ended up drawing or losing, then the moan would be 'why didn't he do the same as the last two games'.I disagree, it was logical at all for the reasons already stated. No one wanted him to replace two attackers with 2 defenders by the 53rd minute. Soucek 2 goals from a combined 40cm out massivly deflected the fact that he was pretty poor in those games up top. He wins headers up there but that was pretty much it, then pops up with two goals on the line and is the hero. Its some party trick....
He didnt do the same as the last two games, Soucek had legs round him up top for starters......and then a RB didnt play left wing. As i say in those conditions and away from home an out ball was needed.
Anyway heres hoping he has learned from it as the best way to defend against Liverpool at the minute is to attack. Sitting back against their attack will be a waste of time.
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 17:52Rossal wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 15:47El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 15:07With two goals in his last two games there which were both victories with late goals, I'd argue going on the evidence prior to Saturday, putting Soucek up front for Wilson was not mental.Away from home is a different game. And he came on with far less time to go in those wins. Giving him 45mins with no legs around him was such a bad call.Its easy to say that after the fact. It had worked effectively in the previous two games so it was the logical move. If he didn't do it and we'd ended up drawing or losing, then the moan would be 'why didn't he do the same as the last two games'.
Rossal wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 15:47El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 15:07Rossal wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 14:44 "Actually think there is very little he could have done to change the second half"
Completely disagree with this. We invited pressure due to us not having a outlet up top. Ghillurme and Marshall while they may be inexperienced, will run and press from the front which takes the pressure of the back 4.
Soucek up top was mental, he can't run, can't play with his back to goal and is probably the worst technical player in the squad so his hold up play is non existent. He can win a header yes, but then there is no one running off him as we were so deep and one of the wingers was Walker-Peters.
Blaming the wind is also ridiculous for me, I was watching it on the stream and Tony Gale called it right..... he said West Ham need to push up, get the back 4 higher up the pitch as any ball over the top would just blow through to the keeper or a goal kick. On the one occasion we pushed up, they pumped it long and it did exactly that.
If he had to take Wilson off so early (for me he could of done 70 mins) then he should have gone Earthy or Marshall wide left, Bowen through the middle and play Ghillurme wide right in his natural position.
Or play Magassa through the middle again for legs and he is good on the ball to allow us to keep it, and play Fernandes wide left.
We were fucked because he took off legs in Ghillurme and added on someone who can't control or keep the ball in Soucek and then stuck a RB on at left wing. Had he done things differently we should of won the game, the notion that we would face so many shots and under the cosh regardless of what Nuno done for me is nonsense.With two goals in his last two games there which were both victories with late goals, I'd argue going on the evidence prior to Saturday, putting Soucek up front for Wilson was not mental.Away from home is a different game. And he came on with far less time to go in those wins. Giving him 45mins with no legs around him was such a bad call.
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 15:07Rossal wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 14:44 "Actually think there is very little he could have done to change the second half"
Completely disagree with this. We invited pressure due to us not having a outlet up top. Ghillurme and Marshall while they may be inexperienced, will run and press from the front which takes the pressure of the back 4.
Soucek up top was mental, he can't run, can't play with his back to goal and is probably the worst technical player in the squad so his hold up play is non existent. He can win a header yes, but then there is no one running off him as we were so deep and one of the wingers was Walker-Peters.
Blaming the wind is also ridiculous for me, I was watching it on the stream and Tony Gale called it right..... he said West Ham need to push up, get the back 4 higher up the pitch as any ball over the top would just blow through to the keeper or a goal kick. On the one occasion we pushed up, they pumped it long and it did exactly that.
If he had to take Wilson off so early (for me he could of done 70 mins) then he should have gone Earthy or Marshall wide left, Bowen through the middle and play Ghillurme wide right in his natural position.
Or play Magassa through the middle again for legs and he is good on the ball to allow us to keep it, and play Fernandes wide left.
We were fucked because he took off legs in Ghillurme and added on someone who can't control or keep the ball in Soucek and then stuck a RB on at left wing. Had he done things differently we should of won the game, the notion that we would face so many shots and under the cosh regardless of what Nuno done for me is nonsense.With two goals in his last two games there which were both victories with late goals, I'd argue going on the evidence prior to Saturday, putting Soucek up front for Wilson was not mental.
Rossal wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 14:44 "Actually think there is very little he could have done to change the second half"
Completely disagree with this. We invited pressure due to us not having a outlet up top. Ghillurme and Marshall while they may be inexperienced, will run and press from the front which takes the pressure of the back 4.
Soucek up top was mental, he can't run, can't play with his back to goal and is probably the worst technical player in the squad so his hold up play is non existent. He can win a header yes, but then there is no one running off him as we were so deep and one of the wingers was Walker-Peters.
Blaming the wind is also ridiculous for me, I was watching it on the stream and Tony Gale called it right..... he said West Ham need to push up, get the back 4 higher up the pitch as any ball over the top would just blow through to the keeper or a goal kick. On the one occasion we pushed up, they pumped it long and it did exactly that.
If he had to take Wilson off so early (for me he could of done 70 mins) then he should have gone Earthy or Marshall wide left, Bowen through the middle and play Ghillurme wide right in his natural position.
Or play Magassa through the middle again for legs and he is good on the ball to allow us to keep it, and play Fernandes wide left.
We were fucked because he took off legs in Ghillurme and added on someone who can't control or keep the ball in Soucek and then stuck a RB on at left wing. Had he done things differently we should of won the game, the notion that we would face so many shots and under the cosh regardless of what Nuno done for me is nonsense.
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 11:54 I reckon I would have done a better job managing the team in the recent match against Leeds.
In fact, I'd have had the majority of posters here picking the team instead of the one he put out.
stubbo-admin wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 12:08Totally agree with you. Actually think there is very little he could have done to change the second half. Our last 4 managers have all suffered from this curse of dropping too deep when in front. The players just do it instinctively at times, and with the weather, and Bournemouth's pressing style....IMO it was going to happen regardless.
It's like playing football at school on a slope...you better score when playing down hill, as you know you'll concede when playing up hill. It wasn't a gentle breeze on Saturday.
Nuno has steadied the ship, and aside the Brentford/Leeds games when he clearly got it wrong, has done a decent job with what he has so far IMO.
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 11:50Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 10:27El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 10:03 Marshall isn't ready. Not sure if he will be in the future, but he's not ready at the moment. If Fullkrug is chucking a hissy fit until he gets his way and leaves then we've Wilson followed by no-one.
Nuno is in a very difficult position thanks to the recruitment or lack of. Behind Wilson all he can do is shove Bowen or Soucek up there. Neither of which are good options seen as neither are centre forwards and moving Bowen there creates a hole on the right side.
Nuno has made a few mistakes and had a few brainfarts but some of the comments regarding him are getting a bit ridiculous. We are on an upward trajectory and we all knew it was 17th by any means necessary this season. Beggars can't be choosers at the moment.I don't think anyone has said anything ridiculous about him (well, in general and bar a few stupid comments). But, you said it - He has made mistakes and had a few brain-farts. That's what most people have said. In other words "What the fuck was he doing?".
Yes, we are improved in all areas. Yes, we are on an upward trajectory. Yes, 7 from last 9 is great. But we are still allowed to point out such blatant foolishness.It's mainly the ridiculous 'Crackhead', 'I've got no faith in him', 'any of us would do better' stuff and just referencing his spurs time while ignoring Forest and Wolves which is just a bit silly. Completely agree that fair criticism is justified and is a very valid talking point. (Irving and Soucek, inverted full backs) I can't really see the point in repeatedly digging him out over his handling of strikers and subs because there are just no good options once Wilson comes off (Cannot believe I'm typing that) and while the tactics against Bournemouth didn't work out and were negative, they had worked out in the two previous matches so it wasn't an out of the blue insane move with no evidence to support it. In the end they did net a point (Yes, three would have been much better) where we didn't expect one, in addition to the six from the prior two games. We're in a far better state under him than we were under Potter and the football will likely be unattractive, but points any which way has to be the priority over style at the moment. Nuno does what Nuno does and we have a fighting chance of staying up under him whereas we were sinking without trace before and I don't think we could have realistically gotten a better manager at the time. It's Sullivan who put us in the mess where this type of football is the only way with the squad we have in the situation we are in. I'm just hoping we can get 2-3 decent bodies in over the January window to shore up defence and attack. Then we might actually have a few options.
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 11:50Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 10:27El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 10:03 Marshall isn't ready. Not sure if he will be in the future, but he's not ready at the moment. If Fullkrug is chucking a hissy fit until he gets his way and leaves then we've Wilson followed by no-one.
Nuno is in a very difficult position thanks to the recruitment or lack of. Behind Wilson all he can do is shove Bowen or Soucek up there. Neither of which are good options seen as neither are centre forwards and moving Bowen there creates a hole on the right side.
Nuno has made a few mistakes and had a few brainfarts but some of the comments regarding him are getting a bit ridiculous. We are on an upward trajectory and we all knew it was 17th by any means necessary this season. Beggars can't be choosers at the moment.I don't think anyone has said anything ridiculous about him (well, in general and bar a few stupid comments). But, you said it - He has made mistakes and had a few brain-farts. That's what most people have said. In other words "What the fuck was he doing?".
Yes, we are improved in all areas. Yes, we are on an upward trajectory. Yes, 7 from last 9 is great. But we are still allowed to point out such blatant foolishness.It's mainly the ridiculous 'Crackhead', 'I've got no faith in him', 'any of us would do better' stuff and just referencing his spurs time while ignoring Forest and Wolves which is just a bit silly. Completely agree that fair criticism is justified and is a very valid talking point. (Irving and Soucek, inverted full backs) I can't really see the point in repeatedly digging him out over his handling of strikers and subs because there are just no good options once Wilson comes off (Cannot believe I'm typing that) and while the tactics against Bournemouth didn't work out and were negative, they had worked out in the two previous matches so it wasn't an out of the blue insane move with no evidence to support it. In the end they did net a point (Yes, three would have been much better) where we didn't expect one, in addition to the six from the prior two games. We're in a far better state under him than we were under Potter and the football will likely be unattractive, but points any which way has to be the priority over style at the moment. Nuno does what Nuno does and we have a fighting chance of staying up under him whereas we were sinking without trace before and I don't think we could have realistically gotten a better manager at the time. It's Sullivan who put us in the mess where this type of football is the only way with the squad we have in the situation we are in. I'm just hoping we can get 2-3 decent bodies in over the January window to shore up defence and attack. Then we might actually have a few options.
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 10:27El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 10:03 Marshall isn't ready. Not sure if he will be in the future, but he's not ready at the moment. If Fullkrug is chucking a hissy fit until he gets his way and leaves then we've Wilson followed by no-one.
Nuno is in a very difficult position thanks to the recruitment or lack of. Behind Wilson all he can do is shove Bowen or Soucek up there. Neither of which are good options seen as neither are centre forwards and moving Bowen there creates a hole on the right side.
Nuno has made a few mistakes and had a few brainfarts but some of the comments regarding him are getting a bit ridiculous. We are on an upward trajectory and we all knew it was 17th by any means necessary this season. Beggars can't be choosers at the moment.I don't think anyone has said anything ridiculous about him (well, in general and bar a few stupid comments). But, you said it - He has made mistakes and had a few brain-farts. That's what most people have said. In other words "What the fuck was he doing?".
Yes, we are improved in all areas. Yes, we are on an upward trajectory. Yes, 7 from last 9 is great. But we are still allowed to point out such blatant foolishness.
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 10:03 Marshall isn't ready. Not sure if he will be in the future, but he's not ready at the moment. If Fullkrug is chucking a hissy fit until he gets his way and leaves then we've Wilson followed by no-one.
Nuno is in a very difficult position thanks to the recruitment or lack of. Behind Wilson all he can do is shove Bowen or Soucek up there. Neither of which are good options seen as neither are centre forwards and moving Bowen there creates a hole on the right side.
Nuno has made a few mistakes and had a few brainfarts but some of the comments regarding him are getting a bit ridiculous. We are on an upward trajectory and we all knew it was 17th by any means necessary this season. Beggars can't be choosers at the moment.
BoleynGone wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025, 06:53 Agree that Wilson has bee treated poorly by Crackhead but so has Marshall. Marshall has only come on when we are in a huge mess,Marshall should be on the bench getting minutes in every game especially when there have been no alternatives. We have had nothing to lose in most games and everything to gain,the same with other youth players. It just becomes Moyes tokenism with them sitting on their arse watching fuck up after fuck up.
It was blatanlty obvious from the start of the season that Fulkrug wanted out,the very early international break set this in stone,he went away crying to his German team mates of what a shit show he was in. Came back,couldn't give a frankfurter shit and went on strike after that.Not much different to Isak. Maybe we can swap with Liverpool. Fulkrug did this last season,Potter and the board decided not to bring a stiker in and replace him. Still,Crackhead uses him. This will affect morale especially in the youth. Ditch Fulkrug to the Sauerkraut factory or Lidl,he shouldn't be traing with any of our teams,expect maybe the Women. At least JWP puts in a shift in training. Think he might be our new right back come December when AWB leaves for the AFCON