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"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

"Rice is actually being a bit of a prick in my opinion, and I'm absolutely not in the Moyes in camp. It's similar to the shit Lampard used to do when he left. This club is lightyears ahead of what I've seen before blah blah. I'm not buying Arteta is some pioneer playing football he's never seen before. One season ago he was the subject of supporter unrest, and could just as easily be this season."

"As hard as it is to hear, Rice is just saying what we all know. Moyes is a dinosaur, out of touch with football and he can say the words 'red bull model' until he is blue in the face but his transfer dealings show he hasn't got a clue. If he wanted to follow that model he would have already signed Borges, Fofana and would be pushing for Gallagher over the likes of McTominay and JWP instead. Arteta has been a manager what less than 5 years, he has already achieved more in those years than Moyes ever will in his career."

I think the DoF is here for the post Moyes era. He might not have the best influence this year. He will have understood this but must avoid calamitous signings now.

sullivan needs to sit moyes down and make it 100% clear that the only reason he's not out on his arse is as a thank you for getting us a trophy. we're still moving forward with the DoF model so if he's not happy with just being a head coach instead of club dicatator then instead of another season he can have a rolex and a painting of a spitfire.

"Half of what Rice said was just to butter up their supporters. Same as calling us best fans in the world etc etc. It's just what footballers do when they join a new club. He'll be calling their fans the best in the world in a couple of months' time even though he, we and they know it's not true. No doubt Arteta is more cultured, modern and progressive than Moyes, but Rice is just blowing smoke up the arse of his new boss, teammates and club."

Much as I want Moyes gone I actually have a funny feeling we will do okay this season... often the 'good' seasons come out of nowhere. Despite everything we will probably sign a half decent Rice replacement. Paqueta should push on and be better than last season and could be a real star of the league. Stranger things have happened than Moyes being forced to play Mubama and him coming good. Clutching at straws I know but I'd rather at least start optimistic...

"Shut up and fuck off keep dreaming you repetitive, tedious cowardly scum cսnt"

"Let's just dwell for a second on what Mr Rice just said: ""I's crazy. It's honestly crazy (the difference between Arsenal and West Ham). I'm already seeing football in a completely different way. You think you know football growing up and when you play, but when you meet managers like Mikel, you realise you don't really know anything about football. There are different styles and different ways of playing that I've never experienced before."

"Everything that is happening right now points to a relegation season. If we was looking at this from another clubs point of view I would be saying cor they are in trouble. Losing their captain, their best player and haven't signed at least 2-3 players that are either A) going to replace the captain and best player or a striker who is likely to bang in 15-20goals and that will be enough for them to have a good season. You look at a club like Wolves and think they are gonna be right in the mire this coming season, Luton and Sheff Utd have hardly done any business of note so it looks like a tough season for the likes of us, wolves and the clubs I've mentioned. The likes of Villa, even Forest and Bournemouth will probably finish higher than us. I honestly really fear for us already, losing Noble hurt us, losing Rice will just as bad if not worse. As I've said on a previous post that 14/1 looks a decent bet for the drop. Its not knicker wetting, it's not doom mongering, it's cold hard facts that we look well and truly in for a roller-coaster season and I've said it before, Moyes winning is that trophy will be there worst thing we could have done. We need a whole reset from the top to the bottom and a relegation just seems like a proper West ham thing to happen after the highs in Prague."

"The problem as a whole is bigger than Moyes. Stiedten is maybe a cause for optimism but Sullivan is still pulling the strings, and with TS's ideas on how to run a football club seemingly at total odds with DM's ideas, then it'll just be a tug of war shit show where no one wins and the team performs badly. Moyes will reject anyone TS wants and TS won't want the type of players Moyes does. Recipe for disaster. Add Sullivan making or breaking deals based on who HE fancies or not and it's a huge mess in the making. TS is a good appointment on the face of it, but not to work in tandem with Moyes. Nothing will truly change until the club is sold. Unfortunately it's all gone very quiet on that front. Someone needs to come in and basically clean house."

"Why the fuck do people continue to judge Moyes against Lyall? It's completely pointless, and irrelevant. The situations are completely different, the game is completely for fuck sake. If you want to compare anything, consider how Moyes 'tactics' (10 men behind the ball) are more out of date than Lyall's, and he died nearly 2 decades ago."

If we sign no one and we get relegated I hope Sully loses millions. How demotivated the players must be that Rice has left and we're showing no ambition other than Moyes clogger types.

"I stick with what I said before. We'll sign one midfielder, maybe add a loanee or 2 and have enough to ride out the season and stay up. Moyes contract will be up and he'll ride off into the sunset."

"I rarely comment on this stuff as we have so little influence on events that what will happen will happen irrespective of what I think or hope for. However, this is what I think is relevant to us as fans. How many of the people employed by the club, or indeed any club, have a long term view on the progression and success of the club? Indeed, does the owner care about the long term health and philosophy of the club to the extent that it reflects those of the core fans? So, even though you could in theory take each season as it goes, and last season was bitter sweet, what are the decisions that have a long term positive impact upon the core fans. Its not like they don't care about these fans as one comment they made a few years ago was how many people visited the official WHU web site in comparison to other clubs in England and it was near the top of unique visitors so they care about these people a great deal. Certainly as potential customers buying tickets and kit etc. So. I recon Sullivan will stick with Moyes to serve out his contract. Moyes needs to do well to get another job. Neither will be making decent decisions for the long term philosophy of the club and the desires of the fans even if we are all grateful for the European cup win and experience. Its up there with my favourite sporting experiences in my life."

Manuel 12:56 Wed Jul 26 Good post.

I agree we won't get Maguire for all the reasons that Manuel outlined. He'd actually be good for us playing Moyesball but it won't happen. The failure to replace Rice on day 1 of the window opening is embarressing.

"If anybody still argues for Moyes to stay then this transfer window, once again, tells you that he is not fit for the job. End of."

Manuel - fucking hope so..

"Even if we want Mauguire it won't happen imo, too complicated. Manu won't loan him, fee too high, wages too high and I really don't think Maguire fancies us at all and probably doesn't fancy London. He has a very high opinion of himself and won't just go anywhere."

Did make me laugh seeing twoleftfeet accuse others of wearing rose tinted specs!

"There is absolutely no excuse for not having a Rice replacement lined up. The club have known for over 12 months that Rice would go this summer. It was also blindingly obvious that everyone would bump up their asking prices once we had £105m in the bank. Rice's replacement should have been identified and a deal agreed for them to come in on 1st June. All of this being unable to agree on signings is beyond a joke. If it is true that Noble and Steidten are meeting with targets and Moyes is vetoing them then quite clearly Moyes has to go. We will end up with McGuire, McTominay and JWP (and Danny Ings up top). Paqueta will be the next player to say 'thanks but no thanks' and we will slide, at best, into bottom half mediocrity. I shouldn't let it bother me so much but it is fucking depressing. Let's hope we are all wrong but but I don't think so..."

"""We have had more success and good times under Moyes than we did under 14 years of Lyall."" what a cսnt. the weird thing is, he's not the first on here to say such shit. they would gladly suck moyes wrinkly ginger scrotum sack, the obsession runs that deep"

I wonder if Moyes had stayed on after his 1st spell would be have £105m in the bank. Or would we have been looking to clear out a 35 year old midfielder on a high wage

"Plus the Lyall sides played with proper style, Moyes tactics are to ""òbe hard to beat', sit back, defend and low possession"

"We won 2 FA Cups under Lyall, finished within an inch of winning the title, were league cup runners up and European cup winners cup winners up ""¶""¶ how the hell has Moyes won more with West Ham, he's a stubborn dinosaur and needs to go"