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Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
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Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 20:15Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 20:11BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 20:01So Trump does what he was elected to do reduces imports which you have been arguing is putting America first. But its the UK governments fault for ... Oh erm not realising Trump was going to impose ridiculous tarrifs on the whole world?
You are comedy gold!
Well the Data shows that the US economy is doing pretty good right now. So not sure where you get your bollocks from probably some left wing propoganda network.
You do realize that the rest of the world had Tarrifs in place against the USA already? OR are you saying it’s only OK if the USA pays Tarrifs?
Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 20:11BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 20:01So Trump does what he was elected to do reduces imports which you have been arguing is putting America first. But its the UK governments fault for ... Oh erm not realising Trump was going to impose ridiculous tarrifs on the whole world?
You are comedy gold!
Well the Data shows that the US economy is doing pretty good right now. So not sure where you get your bollocks from probably some left wing propoganda network.
You do realize that the rest of the world had Tarrifs in place against the USA already? OR are you saying it’s only OK if the USA pays Tarrifs?
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 20:01Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:47BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:37Well how do you account for the drop off in sales.
https:/www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/national/25320061.jaguar-land-rover-cutting-500-management-jobs-uk/
Never Trumps fault you gotta laugh!
Isnt that exactly what Trump wanted to reduce imports you should be crowing his great success!Blame the inept British Gov’t.
As for Trump he is doing what he was elected to do, put the USA first.So Trump does what he was elected to do reduces imports which you have been arguing is putting America first. But its the UK governments fault for ... Oh erm not realising Trump was going to impose ridiculous tarrifs on the whole world?
You are comedy gold!![]()
Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:47BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:37Well how do you account for the drop off in sales.
https:/www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/national/25320061.jaguar-land-rover-cutting-500-management-jobs-uk/
Never Trumps fault you gotta laugh!
Isnt that exactly what Trump wanted to reduce imports you should be crowing his great success!Blame the inept British Gov’t.
As for Trump he is doing what he was elected to do, put the USA first.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:37Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:32BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:19Are those the 500 management jobs which are "going as part of a voluntary redundancy programme for managers in the UK".
It comes after JLR revealed last week that retail sales plunged 15.1% in the three months to June after a temporary pause in exports to the US and the planned wind-down of older Jaguar models, while wholesale sales dropped by 10.7%.The company said the significant fall in sales was partly driven by the pause in shipments to the US in April after US President Donald Trump’s administration introduced new tariff plans.In April, the US government said it would launch an additional 25% tariff on car imports into the US, in an effort to encourage more car production within the country.
So thanks in part to Trumps tarrif war!Always Trumps fault. Gotta laugh!Well how do you account for the drop off in sales.
https:/www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/national/25320061.jaguar-land-rover-cutting-500-management-jobs-uk/
Never Trumps fault you gotta laugh!
Isnt that exactly what Trump wanted to reduce imports you should be crowing his great success!
Nutsin wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:32BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:19Are those the 500 management jobs which are "going as part of a voluntary redundancy programme for managers in the UK".
It comes after JLR revealed last week that retail sales plunged 15.1% in the three months to June after a temporary pause in exports to the US and the planned wind-down of older Jaguar models, while wholesale sales dropped by 10.7%.The company said the significant fall in sales was partly driven by the pause in shipments to the US in April after US President Donald Trump’s administration introduced new tariff plans.In April, the US government said it would launch an additional 25% tariff on car imports into the US, in an effort to encourage more car production within the country.
So thanks in part to Trumps tarrif war!Always Trumps fault. Gotta laugh!
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025, 19:19Are those the 500 management jobs which are "going as part of a voluntary redundancy programme for managers in the UK".
It comes after JLR revealed last week that retail sales plunged 15.1% in the three months to June after a temporary pause in exports to the US and the planned wind-down of older Jaguar models, while wholesale sales dropped by 10.7%.The company said the significant fall in sales was partly driven by the pause in shipments to the US in April after US President Donald Trump’s administration introduced new tariff plans.In April, the US government said it would launch an additional 25% tariff on car imports into the US, in an effort to encourage more car production within the country.
So thanks in part to Trumps tarrif war!
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025, 09:13 David LAMMY has just handed Singapore, the 4th richest country in the world, £70m for their green energy push.
only1billybonds wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025, 06:31 No, I'm done because we are going around in circles. We have both said that individual states have their biases depending on how that statee votes.
Do you agree that getting men out of women's sport is a good thing?
Agreed
Do you agree that securing the Southern border in the USA is a good thing?
Agreed - however wasnt it Biden who tried to get a bi partisan border security bill thru that the Republicans voted out. Context is everything and Trump saw the issue as an election winner. No good if the problem was already solved.
Do you agree that people will no longer be taxed on their tips they receive at work is a good thing.
Agreed - however the pennies saved pale in comparison to the billions the rich will save via the big ugly bill and the cost for those falling off medicaid eligibility.
Do you agree that DOGE have done a good job, saving the American tax payer millions in needless expenditure?
No I cant say theyve done that much. By all accounts promising $2tn savings and getting nowhere near and spending an absolute fortune. Will be interesting to see what they spent and what they saved. None of it was fraud as it was all voted for by congress.
That'll do for a start, feel free to highlight any failures by the Trump govnmt since Jan, there's obviously been a couple.
Tarrifs are his one trick and are a joke. The guy is a flat track bully put him at the head of any other country and he wouldn't have a chance. He has no clue about the histiry of how tarrifs were used and their impact. How effective they were we will only know once its all settled down but dont bank on it being positive it might make the deficits worse yet.
Markets manipulated by him and his cronies are profiting. Not a good look at the very least. Inflation promises are yet to be impacted by his tarrifs but could well be a lot worse to come rather than the promised "end" of inflation.
Unlawfully Commercialising the Presidency with the watch, phone etc is a disgrace. But then without thise funds his own business would go bust by all accounts.
No peace as promised in Ukraine. Im glad he's finally realised Putin is not to be trusted but jeez how dumb was he to think he could.
Trump should come down harder on Netanyahu - 50k dead is just horrific but Trump could encourage him to stop if he wanted to.
His promise to rid America of gangs, rapists and murderers was a good one. However turning his attention to "illegals" as criminals so quickly and publicly rounding them up on the streets and at work is not what the public were expecting and smacks of a nazi police state.
I could go on.
But nice to have an intelligent exchange rather than Nutsack going all MAGA!