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goose wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 22:00Now you’re just making stuff up.
You get proper salty when someone insults Trump.
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 19:59One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 03:38Were you celebrating 4th of July with your rapist president?OSD you still calling white people “Gammons?”
One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 03:38Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 17:17goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 16:12yes your're taking on more debt.
the deficit will grow even larger because of this bill. GDP would have to grow something like 50% to get close to break even. lets not pretend that's gonna happen.
outside of the Whitehouse, everybody agrees that the deficit will grown because of this - the consensus is something around $650bn every year.
lets be clear on this, you don't think that businesses have an idea of what goods or raw materials they will be purchasing between now and the end of the year? remember the things you're imported have to be created and then shipped across the world.WOW 50% now that’s a big number. You must have a huge arsehole to pull a number that big out of it.
Im done, you’re too stupid to take serious.
Happy 4th!Were you celebrating 4th of July with your rapist president?
Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 17:17goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 16:12Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 15:45Because we’re taking on more debt goose.
No, they don’t know how much will be imported or exported yet because trade agreements haven’t been confirmed yet.
Here’s an estimate for you that isn’t used in your numbers. Apparently as of June 25th the US has received 75,000 applications for Trumps Gold Visa card. At $5 mill a piece that brings in $325 Billion.
Who’s to say that number doesn’t double? Then what?yes your're taking on more debt.
the deficit will grow even larger because of this bill. GDP would have to grow something like 50% to get close to break even. lets not pretend that's gonna happen.
outside of the Whitehouse, everybody agrees that the deficit will grown because of this - the consensus is something around $650bn every year.
lets be clear on this, you don't think that businesses have an idea of what goods or raw materials they will be purchasing between now and the end of the year? remember the things you're imported have to be created and then shipped across the world.WOW 50% now that’s a big number. You must have a huge arsehole to pull a number that big out of it.
Im done, you’re too stupid to take serious.
Happy 4th!
Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 17:17goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 16:12Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 15:45Because we’re taking on more debt goose.
No, they don’t know how much will be imported or exported yet because trade agreements haven’t been confirmed yet.
Here’s an estimate for you that isn’t used in your numbers. Apparently as of June 25th the US has received 75,000 applications for Trumps Gold Visa card. At $5 mill a piece that brings in $325 Billion.
Who’s to say that number doesn’t double? Then what?yes your're taking on more debt.
the deficit will grow even larger because of this bill. GDP would have to grow something like 50% to get close to break even. lets not pretend that's gonna happen.
outside of the Whitehouse, everybody agrees that the deficit will grown because of this - the consensus is something around $650bn every year.
lets be clear on this, you don't think that businesses have an idea of what goods or raw materials they will be purchasing between now and the end of the year? remember the things you're imported have to be created and then shipped across the world.WOW 50% now that’s a big number. You must have a huge arsehole to pull a number that big out of it.
Im done, you’re too stupid to take serious.
Happy 4th!
goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 16:12Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 15:45goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 15:10How would they know?
They know what the US imports form each country and the level of tariff by country. That's an easy one to work out.
They have many many examples of tax cuts throughout the years and the impact - Trumps tax cuts in 2017 is a great benchmark.
simple question for you, if this isn't going to increase the deficit - why do you need to increase the debt ceiling?Because we’re taking on more debt goose.
No, they don’t know how much will be imported or exported yet because trade agreements haven’t been confirmed yet.
Here’s an estimate for you that isn’t used in your numbers. Apparently as of June 25th the US has received 75,000 applications for Trumps Gold Visa card. At $5 mill a piece that brings in $325 Billion.
Who’s to say that number doesn’t double? Then what?yes your're taking on more debt.
the deficit will grow even larger because of this bill. GDP would have to grow something like 50% to get close to break even. lets not pretend that's gonna happen.
outside of the Whitehouse, everybody agrees that the deficit will grown because of this - the consensus is something around $650bn every year.
lets be clear on this, you don't think that businesses have an idea of what goods or raw materials they will be purchasing between now and the end of the year? remember the things you're imported have to be created and then shipped across the world.
Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 15:45goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 15:10Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 14:52I disagree with both, how the fuck do these fearmongerers know either, tax cuts sour growth and we have no idea how much the Tariffs will be yet and how much they will bring in and what the trade agreements are gonna look like.
So tell me how the fuck would they know?
All they are doing is guessing and using and grossly underestimating any increase in revenue these bring.
But you keep lapping it up like a good little retard why don’t you.
Those of us with half a brain will continue to be long and strong with our investments and cash in while you watch and miss a Golden opportunity to cash in.
Good god what a fuckwit!How would they know?
They know what the US imports form each country and the level of tariff by country. That's an easy one to work out.
They have many many examples of tax cuts throughout the years and the impact - Trumps tax cuts in 2017 is a great benchmark.
simple question for you, if this isn't going to increase the deficit - why do you need to increase the debt ceiling?Because we’re taking on more debt goose.
No, they don’t know how much will be imported or exported yet because trade agreements haven’t been confirmed yet.
Here’s an estimate for you that isn’t used in your numbers. Apparently as of June 25th the US has received 75,000 applications for Trumps Gold Visa card. At $5 mill a piece that brings in $325 Billion.
Who’s to say that number doesn’t double? Then what?
goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 15:10Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 14:52goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 09:24Which bit do you disagree with? The need to raise the debt ceiling or the huge amounts it adds to the deficit?
I would say 'deranged' is looking at the numbers and seeing anything but a deficit increase.
2017 Trump tax cuts increased the deficit by 17% ($114bn) in the first year.I disagree with both, how the fuck do these fearmongerers know either, tax cuts sour growth and we have no idea how much the Tariffs will be yet and how much they will bring in and what the trade agreements are gonna look like.
So tell me how the fuck would they know?
All they are doing is guessing and using and grossly underestimating any increase in revenue these bring.
But you keep lapping it up like a good little retard why don’t you.
Those of us with half a brain will continue to be long and strong with our investments and cash in while you watch and miss a Golden opportunity to cash in.
Good god what a fuckwit!How would they know?
They know what the US imports form each country and the level of tariff by country. That's an easy one to work out.
They have many many examples of tax cuts throughout the years and the impact - Trumps tax cuts in 2017 is a great benchmark.
simple question for you, if this isn't going to increase the deficit - why do you need to increase the debt ceiling?
Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 14:52goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 09:24Which bit do you disagree with? The need to raise the debt ceiling or the huge amounts it adds to the deficit?
I would say 'deranged' is looking at the numbers and seeing anything but a deficit increase.
2017 Trump tax cuts increased the deficit by 17% ($114bn) in the first year.I disagree with both, how the fuck do these fearmongerers know either, tax cuts sour growth and we have no idea how much the Tariffs will be yet and how much they will bring in and what the trade agreements are gonna look like.
So tell me how the fuck would they know?
All they are doing is guessing and using and grossly underestimating any increase in revenue these bring.
But you keep lapping it up like a good little retard why don’t you.
Those of us with half a brain will continue to be long and strong with our investments and cash in while you watch and miss a Golden opportunity to cash in.
Good god what a fuckwit!
Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 14:52goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 09:24Which bit do you disagree with? The need to raise the debt ceiling or the huge amounts it adds to the deficit?
I would say 'deranged' is looking at the numbers and seeing anything but a deficit increase.
2017 Trump tax cuts increased the deficit by 17% ($114bn) in the first year.I disagree with both, how the fuck do these fearmongerers know either, tax cuts sour growth and we have no idea how much the Tariffs will be yet and how much they will bring in and what the trade agreements are gonna look like.
So tell me how the fuck would they know?
All they are doing is guessing and using and grossly underestimating any increase in revenue these bring.
But you keep lapping it up like a good little retard why don’t you.
Those of us with half a brain will continue to be long and strong with our investments and cash in while you watch and miss a Golden opportunity to cash in.
Good god what a fuckwit!
goose wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 09:24Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025, 23:28goose wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025, 21:45 Trump tax bill averts one debt crisis but makes future financial woes worse - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-07-03/More TDS from Reuters I see. Yet you still post their links thinking it’s not propaganda.
Gotta laugh!
Don’t be surprised to learn their gloomy forecast ends up being wrong again.
Poor Goose really is stuck on Stupid.
Which bit do you disagree with? The need to raise the debt ceiling or the huge amounts it adds to the deficit?
I would say 'deranged' is looking at the numbers and seeing anything but a deficit increase.
2017 Trump tax cuts increased the deficit by 17% ($114bn) in the first year.
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025, 23:28goose wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025, 21:45 Trump tax bill averts one debt crisis but makes future financial woes worse - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-07-03/More TDS from Reuters I see. Yet you still post their links thinking it’s not propaganda.
Gotta laugh!
Don’t be surprised to learn their gloomy forecast ends up being wrong again.
Poor Goose really is stuck on Stupid.
goose wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025, 21:45 Trump tax bill averts one debt crisis but makes future financial woes worse - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-07-03/