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NFL (since 2016)
"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Rg3 was brilliant in his rookie year for us, one of my favourite seasons but as soon as opposing coaches got familiar with him it exposed his limitations throwing the ball. he's up there though with the bravest QB's ive seen but took too many risks that caused his injuries"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Yeah, it's hard to assess Jackson in NFL terms. Nobody knows whether he could make the transition in the way people like Vick did, or whether he's another Tim Tebow (bit harsh, but you get the drift?)! He's movement and ability to run is outstanding. But there are some serious doubts about his passing accuracy and his ability to throw from the pocket. Doesn't rule him out as a NFL starter, of course. But I do think the comparisons with RGIII are decent. As with Griffin, the worry for Jackson (and any team that trades for him) is what happens when his first major injury (which he will get with that running instinct from QB) slows him down. Can he just sit and pass more often than in college? The moment he moves past the line of scrimmage, he becomes the target, and potential scalp, of every hard-hitting linebacker and safety in the league. Like Griffin before him. One thing's for sure - while he's 100% fit and this quick, there will be some incredible feats (with his feet). On the Jackson/Watson thing: there's no comparison. Watson is a hugely better passer and a proper QB. I just hope that his knee has recovered because he looks the part, that kid. Jets should have drafted him last year - can't believe they didn't. If they'd taken him last year, they'd now be in a position to take Saquon Barkley at RB. Imagine that pairing."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"No im just saying as a prospect he seems more highly rated Think he's still sulking after the superbowl loss, seems like he wants more money to be honest, the whole thing with his trainer is causing some friction too. Gronk has come out and said he will be playing this year, brady will fall in line, just needs the rigt motivation, hopefully drafting a good QB will light a fire under him"
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- Takashi Miike
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- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Not right now he's not no, but he's a better prospect coming out of college, nobody though watson would do what he did when he started playing, christ tom savage was the starter ahead of him. But the upside lf jackson is off the charts"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Well they have 2 1st round and 2 2nd round picks so they have some ammo to move up, might need to if Brady keeps fucking about, might just light a fire under him though like it did when they drafted Jimmy G. Jackson with Josh Mcdaniels designing his plays could be amazing in a couple of years after a year or 2 of learning under Brady and Bellichick"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"One of the quarterbacks could fall. They usually do. There's a fair few being talked about this year, but there are a lot of teams who want one and apparently not a great deal of consensus on where they should all be ranked. Some people say Rosen should go #1 overall, some say he'll be the guy who slides. Some say Allen WILL go #1 overall, some say he shouldn't be considered there. Darnold Allen Rosen Mayfield Jackson The only cert I think is that Darnold goes #1 or #2. He's not getting past the Giants. (or whoever may trade into the #2 spot)"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"I'll tell you who I do like the look of after doing some more research, Lamar Jackson - seems to be a more athletic version of Desean Watson entering the league, he has a bit of an inconsistent arm but is being compared to Mike Vick in terms of mobility with a far better arm than the animal beater ever had coming out of college. Rumours of him going potentially to the Patriots at number 23 - but with the early rush on QBs at the top of the draft I cant see him being available that far down as someone will trade up to go and get him around 15"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Oh, and for the same reasons the Giants really should pick a QB regardless of what the Browns do, unless there are extremely strong doubts over anyone not called Darnold."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"The Browns can't afford to miss on ANOTHER quarterback and settle for the second or third best in the draft at 4 when they can have their choice at 1, even if a great running back is sitting there. Barkley may be the best player but QB is a far more important position. Get it right and you're set for 15 years. Get it wrong and you're the Cleveland Browns... They should go with a quarterback. Looks likely Darnold or Allen if all the gossip is to be believed. Whoever it is can sit for a year or until this season is a write off while Taylor starts."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Barkley should go no1, especially when there's three or four decent qbs and the Browns have the fourth pick. knowing the way they draft, Barkley will drop to your lot and you'll at last have a great back again :.("
Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Giants will take Barkley if the Browns don't. And will only take Darnold, again if the Browns don't. Management and ownership feels Eli needs more weapons and a little bit more protection. Then maybe.? Just maybe they could become in contention in the NFC East."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Four days to go before the 2018 draft, and still some big uncertainties about what some of the teams with key picks will do. Looks increasingly likely that the Browns will take Sam Darnold at #1. The Giants at #2 is still up in the air. They know who they want, but are keeping their cards close to their chest. the best player on the board will be the running back Saquon Barkley. But Eli won't last forever, and it's rare that the Giants will have a top-two pick. So don't be surprised to see them draft Eli's successor QB. If that's the case, you're looking at Josh Rosen. If the opt to replace JPP with an edge rusher, it'll be Bradley Chubb. My guess is Rosen will go #2 and learn from Eli for a year. Which puts the QB-desperate Jets on the board at #3 with only three of the ""big five"" QBs left: Mayfield, Allen and Jackson. They'll take Baker Mayfield. It's looking nailed on if Darnold and Rosen are off the board. Three QBs in the top three picks is unusual, but all three teams need LT solutions at the position. Browns will then likely take the best player, Barkley, off the board at #4. He could be a huge hit if he makes the transition."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
Does that mean the tickets for the game at the cheese room stadium will go on sale soon then?
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Crystal - Rosen is definitely the most pro-ready QB in the draft. He might even be the best, although Darnold and Mayfield have got some huge skills. Allen is a slightly bigger risk, but could really pay off for a team with a good QB coach and some patience. Huge arm - off the charts, really. The guy can hurl the ball, at speed, pretty much the length of the field. But he has accuracy issues compared with the other three. Most high-quality QBs enter the NFL with a college pass completion rate of around 62-65%. The top-class QBs tend to enter the NFL with a pass completion rate of around 65-68%. Allen's pass completion rate, even at college, is just 58%. Which is not great. Of course, some QBs enter the NFL with that sort of ratio and, because they learn how to select their passes far better, they improve their completion rate. But I'd be a little concerned about Allen's PCR, given that he's been running a very specific (non-NFL) offense at college, which for most QBs should help with better pass completions. If you watch video of Allen's workouts and game time, you can see he has enormous raw talent. But you can also see his accuracy issues. Compare him to Baker Mayfield, for example, who has a 68% PCR and off-the-chart accuracy. Looks like he could thread the eye of a needle with the ball. Rosen and Darnold not far behind, either: and they have slightly better pass selection. To me, Allen's still the fourth best QB in the draft. At the moment."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"hopefully we get Vita Vea. watched quite a few of the stuff Smith's done since arriving in Washington, he's a class act. just wish he was a bit younger"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"true, Allen will be a project but i think he's the one for me. also seen Mayfield on a few different things, has great accuracy and is very confident but does lack a bit of size"