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1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

RootsRadical wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 21:07 Fabianski to return.
Wes leaving.
According to Ex.

For some reason I can not find where to post a new thread. Been looking for 20 mins and can't see the option anywhere???

threesixty wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 19:30 Thought I’d ask chatGPT!

“Would Declan rice have made it as a world class player if he didn’t play as much 1st team football as he did in the early part of his career?”That’s a really interesting “what if” because Rice’s career path is quite unusual compared to many English players. A few points to weigh up: 1. Opportunity and Development Curve 

• Rice got regular first-team minutes at West Ham from age 18. By 21, he had over 100 Premier League appearances — something most young players never get.
• Playing against top professionals week in, week out clearly accelerated his tactical understanding, decision-making under pressure, and physical resilience.

  2. Talent vs. Timing 

• Rice had the raw attributes: composure on the ball, positional intelligence, stamina, and leadership. Those traits suggest he would likely have reached a high level regardless.
• But without that early exposure, it might have taken him longer to develop consistency, and he may not have been recognised as quickly at international level.

  3. Comparisons with Peers 

• Players like Ruben Loftus-Cheek or Ross Barkley had similar technical ability as teenagers but didn’t get sustained starts in a key role — their careers plateaued.
• Conversely, someone like Michael Carrick only broke through regularly in his early 20s but still became elite. So it’s not impossible to succeed later, just less common.

  4. Role of Circumstance 

• West Ham were in a situation where they needed him; they gave him responsibility. At a bigger club with more depth, he might have been loaned out or benched, and his development could easily have stalled.

   So, would Rice have become world-class without that early game time?Most likely, he still had the raw potential — but it was the combination of his talent and the unusually high volume of early first-team football that pushed him into the “world-class” bracket by his mid-20s. Without it, he might have developed more slowly, perhaps still becoming a top Premier League midfielder, but not necessarily the standout England and Arsenal captain we see today. Do you want me to compare Rice’s path directly with players who had similar potential but fewer early minutes — like Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, or even Wilshere — to see how different it could’ve been?

Asking AI's opinion on whether Declan Rice would have made it as a World Class Defensive Midfielder?!
AAAG AG AG

360, I love ya man, but that is 'next level' Forumming.  

threesixty wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 16:00 Okay. This has descended into a bit of a farce!
Originally I was criticising our youth policy over the last decade or so that has produced hardly any 1st team players compared to other PL clubs. My point was it was a catch 22. That if we don’t plan for and give our academy players minutes in 1st team games we will not bring many through. If we lean on the fact that they need to be as good as regular senior players to play in the 1st team before they get a sustained opportunity they will be unlikely to make it. A sort of self fulfilling prophecy that our managers have leaned on as an excuse to not to give our young players a chance. 

I can only conclude that most of you agree that these managers were right. Which is sad as I would not expect that from our fans. 

I used Rice as an example being one of the few PL players who got more minutes than most his age. And how that has made him a better player than he would have been. And yet still you cling on to this weird premise that experience does not make you better at anything you’re doing (office work, football, sex even lol). 
And although Rice is talented and it was obvious he was, the amount of minutes would not have made any difference to his ability now. As if Rice didn’t play 1st team football for the last 3 yrs he would have still been a 100m player because his exploits as a youth meant he had somehow gained his full abilities before he got his starting place at west ham. 



Respectfully, you all sound a little bit mad and illogical. 
Never mind…



 

• Rice got regular first-team minutes at West Ham from age 18. By 21, he had over 100 Premier League appearances — something most young players never get.
• Playing against top professionals week in, week out clearly accelerated his tactical understanding, decision-making under pressure, and physical resilience.

• Rice had the raw attributes: composure on the ball, positional intelligence, stamina, and leadership. Those traits suggest he would likely have reached a high level regardless.
• But without that early exposure, it might have taken him longer to develop consistency, and he may not have been recognised as quickly at international level.

• Players like Ruben Loftus-Cheek or Ross Barkley had similar technical ability as teenagers but didn’t get sustained starts in a key role — their careers plateaued.
• Conversely, someone like Michael Carrick only broke through regularly in his early 20s but still became elite. So it’s not impossible to succeed later, just less common.

• West Ham were in a situation where they needed him; they gave him responsibility. At a bigger club with more depth, he might have been loaned out or benched, and his development could easily have stalled.

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 15:35

threesixty wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:49

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:13 Cole Palmer had played less than 500 minutes of football by the time he was 21. He must be shit now, eh? All those years of development lost.

 

You would hardly know who the guy was if he didn’t make the jump to Chelsea to get more …. MINUTES IN 1st team PL football!

ffs.. you make my point for me and you don’t even realise it. 

you're just trolling now. No-one's that stupid.

threesixty wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:49

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:13 Cole Palmer had played less than 500 minutes of football by the time he was 21. He must be shit now, eh? All those years of development lost.

 

You would hardly know who the guy was if he didn’t make the jump to Chelsea to get more …. MINUTES IN 1st team PL football!

ffs.. you make my point for me and you don’t even realise it. 

Vexed wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 11:49

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 17:45 Early days I know, but there is a small part of me that thinks this transfer window will go down as one of the best we’ve had for some time. 


 

This is fucking bonkers

threesixty wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 14:25

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 14:19 "If Rice had a seasoned international in the CDM position in front of him he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the minutes he got and he wouldn’t be a great player by now. And he’d have ended up at some yo yo club or in the championship"


You're genuinely saying that the £100mil, soon to be Arsenal captain, soon to be England captain, could play in any team on the planet, world class Declan Rice, would be a Championship player if Jack Wilshire had stayed fit?

Go and have a bite to eat, a nice cup of tea, wipe your mouth of this thread, and let's all move on. Quietly.



 

 

A few years back other fans were laughing at us saying he’s nowhere near world class. Some were putting Kalvin Phillips in front of him. He was so destined to be a 100m player that the Republic of Ireland had him playing u21 instead of England. So obvious he was a star player as a kid he was released by Chelsea. So destined to be a 100m player that on his debut at 18 Real Madrid and Barca were blowing up his agents phone. Ffs.. 

yeah.. we all have a crystal ball somewhere!

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:07 Bilic was the one who introduced Rice to the team and played him at DM a handful of times. Moyes played him as a CB, but only when he used a back 3. Pellegrini used him as a DM but only made him a starter a few games in to the season when Wheelchair Wilshere got injured.

The idea that he would have been playing in the Championship now if he had not been a regular starter until 2-3 years later is patently absurd. All it meant was that he probably reached an optimal level earlier than he would have done otherwise. He'd still almost certainly be the same level of player now at 26, whether he had game time as a teenager or not.

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 14:19 "If Rice had a seasoned international in the CDM position in front of him he wouldn’t have got anywhere near the minutes he got and he wouldn’t be a great player by now. And he’d have ended up at some yo yo club or in the championship"


You're genuinely saying that the £100mil, soon to be Arsenal captain, soon to be England captain, could play in any team on the planet, world class Declan Rice, would be a Championship player if Jack Wilshire had stayed fit?

Go and have a bite to eat, a nice cup of tea, wipe your mouth of this thread, and let's all move on. Quietly.


 

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:07 Bilic was the one who introduced Rice to the team and played him at DM a handful of times. Moyes played him as a CB, but only when he used a back 3. Pellegrini used him as a DM but only made him a starter a few games in to the season when Wheelchair Wilshere got injured.

The idea that he would have been playing in the Championship now if he had not been a regular starter until 2-3 years later is patently absurd. All it meant was that he probably reached an optimal level earlier than he would have done otherwise. He'd still almost certainly be the same level of player now at 26, whether he had game time as a teenager or not.

Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:13 Cole Palmer had played less than 500 minutes of football by the time he was 21. He must be shit now, eh? All those years of development lost.