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VAR - What is it good for?

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"Absolutely nothing. Say it again, yeah."
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The issue for me on the Chelsea game was that it seemed that VAR were sticking their noses in where it was not required. The rules clearly state the following. VAR is used in the following situations: a. Goal/no goal b. Penalty/no penalty c. Direct red card (not second yellow card/caution) d. Mistaken identity (when the referee cautions or sends off the wrong player of the offending team) None of the above were in play when Bowen allegedly fouled Chelsea's goal keeper. That decision was way out of the VAR remit therefore what the fuck was going on and what is in play to prevent a reoccurrence.
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"""I think we have a lot to learn from rugby. Not only could we hear the conversation between ref and var official which may help although the decision still rests with the officials. Stopping the stadium clock for major stoppages (eg injuries and substitutions) would be amazing with every game finishing when the clock shows 45/90 minutes and not left for the ref to decide."" This - Said before they just close ranks with no explanation as to why a decision has been made. Personally I would shove them in front of the media afterwards to explain their decisions. Agree re the clock. Most of the new sub rules are timewasting tactics and it benefits the bigger clubs because they have better players to bring on. VAR decisions, subs, players feigning injury, timewasting then the Referee only adds say three minutes on!"
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"Could also be we would be horrified to hear what they were or were not discussing, missing this, missing that, it would be a red rag to a bull, and they know it!"
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"Could also be we would be horrified to hear what they were or were not discussing, missing this, missing that, it would be a red rag to a bull, and they know it!"
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"I hate it, having to wait for ages for a decision and often before celebrating a goal is a killer. I initially agreed with the 'clear and obvious' but then thought about the penalty awarded to the spuds which took best part of 5 minutes to resolve before it was ruled out. I think we have a lot to learn from rugby. Not only could we hear the conversation between ref and var official which may help although the decision still rests with the officials. Stopping the stadium clock for major stoppages (eg injuries and substitutions) would be amazing with every game finishing when the clock shows 45/90 minutes and not left for the ref to decide. 10 minutes in the bin instead of a yellow card would see the side 'sinned' against benefit and not some team further down the fixture list. Sadly none of this will happen even though it would reduce the possibility of corruption as raised on another post. VAR is here to stay but it needs improvement and records should be publicly kept to see which teams benefit most from its use."
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Read a while back that they can't put it on the big screens in premier league because 1 team doesn't have a big screen. That team is man u
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"The team running var should be checking constantly always seems it lat minute. then once highlighted to the ref on the pitch they have 30 sec to make a decision , it ain't clear n obvious if they don't.get them doing there job quicker. Seems to work better in Europe especially the eufa tournaments."
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A safeguard to ensure the Elite clubs don’t drop out of the Top Six
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VAR is for the TV audience in general. Those cunts who cant be bothered to go or who pay for the whole charade in Thailand and China. Massive cunts the lot of them.
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It's VARsicle. I think the comparison with how rugby does it is very useful. Rugby also doesn't allow players to give the ref.sny backchat. Laudable.
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"The margins involved in some of the 'goals' ruled out for offside are ridiculous,we're often talking about a difference in shoe size. We'll never know how many chalked off 'goals' would have stood before VAR but the system has only succeeded in complicating the game. The fact that it often takes minutes rather than seconds for a decision to be reached suggests that the system has failed and needs binning. Let the game revert back to being reffed by humans and we'll all have to accept that mistakes will be made."
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I rarely watch rugby but they seem to get their VAR right. I think the referee calls for assistance on difficult decisions when he needs clarity. Then it’s a public broadcast replay and conversation to get the right decision. Two other points. Rugby players are not allowed to back chat refs. And players rolling around feigning injury would be ridiculed by teammates and fans
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"I also think refs should be made to come out and explain decisions or w have access to the dialogue between St Georges Park and the on pitch ref. A league table of refs, with the bottom 3/4 relegated to the championship would also surely improve officiating levels?"
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"It needs to go now, it has made the game worse not better so it has to go. Arguably worse decisions are being made with it, and causing far more controversy all whilst disrupting the game and taking away the fan experience in grounds. If fans can get the super league scraped they can get VAR thrown out. Fans of all clubs need to come together and ensure it gets launched into the bin"
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"I was 100% against the introduction of VAR and remain 100% opposed to it. If after 4 years the gormless officials still can't make it work even on a basic level then their is no hope for it. But if as it seems there is no chance of it being binned, no matter how shit it is, then they must go back to basics and only use it to adjudicate on matters of clear and obvious errors. The trouble with the VAR inadequates is that they just love looking for the tiniest imagined infraction that nobody else in the stadium has noticed. They must be told to stop this now because they are runing the game. And when one of them makes such a massive error of judgement such as yesterdays 'equalising' goal it is quite clear they neither care about or understand the game and should be cast out and advised to work as a parking warden where their very limited talents might be better appreciated."
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Why can’t we get a point. Award as a fucking point!
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"What would help is retrospective bans for simulation, feigning injury and cheating by players. 5 games should cut some of it out. It only was chalked off because Mendy screamed like a little girl and rolled around like he was shot."
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All well and good admitting it was wrong (again concerning us) and a review... but that doesn't exactly help us does it. We don't get the missing point we deserved
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Remember when they admitted Everton should have got a penalty for handball against City and that lessons would be learnt and things would change...?
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"They have admitted it should have stood. However there will be no consequences from it. Nothing will change and football will continue to be corrupt. All they do is hide behind words with no action taken. Next week the VAR ref will get the calls right but give it 2/3 weeks it will all blow up again. We seem to have this now, 1 weekend in about 3/4 VAR takes all the headlines."
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They have admitted goal should have stood https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12689874/var-premier-league-asks-referees-body-pgmol-to-investigate-controversial-calls-at-chelsea-and-newcastle
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"Of course they won‚Äôt, you fucking cսnt"
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"If the PL decides the referee’s post-VAR decision was wrong, they surely have to accept the goal stands. Interesting"
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"If the PL decides the referee’s post-VAR decision was wrong, they surely have to accept the goal stands. Interesting"
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