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NFL (since 2016)
"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"true, Allen will be a project but i think he's the one for me. also seen Mayfield on a few different things, has great accuracy and is very confident but does lack a bit of size"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"I don't watch any college football but been listening to some podcasts and Josh Allen has some big upside but sounds like he is nowhere near being ready to run an offence. Sounds like Rosen is the most pro-ready QB, but the biggest knock on him is that he is ""too smart"" and continually needs to be told why he is doing certain things, which seems to of put off some of the more poorly coached teams (browns, Jets etc) seems like Darnold is the favourite to be the first guy picked but he's not the finished product yet, had a lot of turnovers in his last year at college."
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"i watched a few of the combine videos and the one that stood out to me was Josh Allen, thats who id be signing if given a chance"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Will be interesting to see how these sort of things effect Josh Rosen who is looking like a top 3 pick in the draft, he is also very vocal in his left wing agenda and seems like he is actually a smart enough guy to maybe make some headway. But again it will be his level of play that will determine if he stays in the NFL not him speaking out. if you're talented enough you'll get a job, just look at some of the criminals tat still get work in the NFL."
- Lee Trundle
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Kaepernick has just TWEETED a quote saying ""I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag"". You've got to be nuts to take him on."
Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Pretty simple really, you own a Football Franchise you want your players to attract fans and interest in your Franchise. All this protesting the flag in the name of BLM is turning fans away, costing the owner money. Who would want to employ someone that's gonna turn fans away? Football is a business, I know I wouldn't hire Kaepernick or Eric Reid."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"""I totally understand where they are coming from by supporting the Black Lives Matter campaign and making a statement about the treatment of black people in the States. Totally support him on principle."" A white man in 7 times more likely to be killed by a black man in the US than vice versa. But yeah, only BLM. Black lives only matter in the less than 1% of cases where a white man is doing the killing. This BLM movement is dehumanising and divisive exactly because it ignores the fact that all lives matter equally."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Kaepernick brings a whole load of baggage with him including his viciously racist girlfriend who will accuse his employer of being a slave master. If he was a great quarterback, none of that will matter, but he isn't. He is a second string qb at best and who wants that colossal distraction for a second string qb? Every time he doesn't play instead of the more talented white qb in the team it will be because of racism. Teams need him like they need their bollocks in a vice. Of course, according to the (so-called) liberal media in the US, his lack of a huge contract is solely down to racism, which I guess they're right about, except it is his racism, not the owners'."
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"the bird is a black lives matter activist who called the ravens owner a slave master, and ray lewis his head slave. whether she's a dj or not, im not interested, but silly bollocks colin brought up great by 'white' people needed someone like that round him like a hole in the head"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Not sure I agree with the idea that his girlfriend was an issue re: the NFL effectively ignoring him. I don't know much about her, but she's a radio host in NYC isn't she? How did that affect his career - unless she was distracting him from training (which is possible!). The fact is, there was no (real or perceived) movement against him - by the NFL, fans or other teams (who refuse to take him) - until he started with his protest. Nobody can be definitive, of course, but the circumstantial evidence points to that. I guess that's what he's now challenging legally. But you're right to say that he's not even that good. He had one magical year, and has played like a back-up ever since. So, let's face it. we're talking about a QB2 at best for any team. The guy clearly had some talent, and at 30 he should still be on a franchise roster. But he's no Joe Namath. ;-)"
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"totally disagree, he threw his career away because of who he was throwing his dick up. that he was too thick to realise he was being used as a puppet is his problem, he's also not that great a quarterback so his options for a starting role are limited at best, especially when the cսnt thinks he's worth a whole lot more than teams are willing to pay"
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"I'm generally not in favour of politicising sport - but I do think Kaepernick has been badly treated. Likewise Reid, his ex-team mate. Two decent players who should still be active in the NFL. That said, these things are often a matter of fine margins - and you could argue that Kaepernick (and, to a lesser extent, Reid) did need to calm down the politicking a little and get on with their primary role - playing American football. I totally understand where they are coming from by supporting the Black Lives Matter campaign and making a statement about the treatment of black people in the States. Totally support him on principle. But. The big mistake he made was to keep pushing his protest and - rightly or wrongly - presenting the idea that he was a man distracted by politics and social issues to the detriment of his team and team-mates, when he should always primarily be an athlete and a team-mate. I don't to this day know whether he actually did push it too far - or whether this was simply an impression that had been created. But I do know that it had become something of a distraction for the NFL, some of his team-mates and a large group of 49ers fans. The fact is, Kaepernick was there to play football. Having a political and social opinion, and articulating it, is not a problem. The problem comes when people (rightly or wrongly) think that is your motivation. I feel for him, because I support him taking a stance. But I can't support the way he took that stance over a prolonged period. He gave many people the impression he was entrenched in activism, primarily motivated by it, and was no longer primarily a footballer. It was an impression, but in the States that counts for a lot. On a basic note, he could have given a straightforward interview, when the dust was beginning to settle, and said: 'Look, I will continue to support the BLM and protest movement. I care about these issues. Know that. But I'm a football player and I have a team and team-mates. I have a job to do. Know that, too.' And I honestly think people would have backed him - and he'd still be playing."
- Lee Trundle
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
Kaepernick have just been told to do one by the Seahawks because he wouldn't confirm his stance on the whole national anthem thing. What an idiot to prefer being a twitter martyr over a professional sportsman earning millions.
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I see the NFL still has a huge problem facing up to the widespread use of performance enhancing drugs. Burfict has just received a four game ban. Four games. In athletics he'd be looking at a couple of years. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926233/article/bengals-lb-vontaze-burfict-suspended-for-four-games
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"you have to laugh at the bookies odds to win next year's Superbowl. the cunts have the Browns at 80/1, should be 800/1"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
The browns are looking to draft another QB.... that'll be their 8th QB drafted in the first 3 rounds since 2005 I think. They don't have much luck do they... ;-)
- El Scorchio
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Cracks me up all the negative press and hate Beckham gets. You have players like Elliott and Rice and Peterson smacking women and children around, multiple players being done for cheating, fighting, drugs, drink driving, actual criminal offences and other things, and yet Beckham is the 'bad boy' of the NFL for basically getting baited into a fight with Josh Norman after extreme provocation and multiple cheap shots from him and the rest of the defenders, kicking a kicker's net and a few silly celebrations."
Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Cooks to the Rams after Suh as well. 49ers got no chance, we'll blow them away."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"All sorts of uproar regarding Beckham recently. All the talk was about them trading him last week. He's a piece of work. Still think the Eagles will win the division, ""òwe' are just too strong with an offensive line that is getting even stronger despite losing some players. With Sproles, Peters and Wentz returning, I can't see many teams getting much change. Wentz' arm and Jeffrey, Ertz, Agholor, and now Mike Wallace running routes is a frightening proposition. Makes the mouth water does that."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Hermit - the best thing the Giants could do in the draft is take Barkley at #2. Much as I would loathe them for it, it would make them immediately competitive in the NFC East again. Manning (even at 37/38 years old), Barkley (best offensive player in the draft) and Beckham (immense) would be quite a handful - even for the superbowl champs."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"The Giants could produce some great football last year look at their two games against the Eagles where they lost yet pushed them all the way particularly the first which was only won by a walk off field goal, the longest in Eagles history. That being said, they could also be woeful at times when local bragging rights weren't on the line. That is a horrible division and if they improve in the right areas, they coupd push the Birds all the way before the playoffs even begin."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"FC - Cousins is likely to be a good acquisition for the Vikes. He's a decent QB, and ready to deliver straight away. I think Minnesota has overpaid for him (after the Jets' initial bid, which was higher but contained fewer guarantees). But the Vikes could afford to do that, and they will expect to win that division on the back of this. Going to be quite a shoot-out in the NFC North now with Rodgers, Stafford and Cousins. Vikes defence should see them through. I wanted the Jets to land Cousins, so we could have no hesitation in taking Barkley in the draft if he was still on the board. But even though the Jets have huge cap space, they have so many other pressing needs that they had a limit to what they could spend on a QB. The Vikes are in a position to challenge for the superbowl next season, while the Jets are way, way off that. Cousins made the right choice. RBS - I hope you're wrong and that the Jets at least have the choice of taking Barkley. He's the best college running back in any draft for a long time. I'd hate to see him go to the Giants! ;-)"
- Takashi Miike
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