NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Def - between West Ham and the Jets, mate, it's enough to turn anybody to drink! Speaking of which, where's that whisky I put down earlier..."

[defjam]

southbankbornnbred 10:53 - West Ham and the Jets? We sure can pick them can't we? ü•π

[southbankbornnbred]

"Just watched the post-game press conference with Rob Saleh and, to be really blunt, he looks and sounds like he is wilting under the pressure. The aggressive New York media are going after him a bit more after that shut-out and he can't say he doesn't deserve at least some criticism. He's a very good defensive mind - and has put together a really good defensive unit - but he doesn't have a clue how to run an offense or even how to manage an offense from a distance as a head coach working with a play-calling OC. He offered absolutely no answers when asked by a journalist how he was going to find ways to get the ball to a talented receiver like Garrett Wilson. He's way out of his depth when it comes to any form of offensive thinking. I don't think he needs to go, necessarily. But as the head coach he's got to step up and take some personal responsibility for the whole team - and that probably means ditching the awful OC and offensive coaches and putting together a team under him who can move the ball - with or without Rodgers next season. He's as clueless as Rex Ryan when it comes to offense. And Rex was a better defensive coach. Saleh is clearly just waiting for Rodgers to come back and run the offense himself. Which is very risky. Next year could be another clusterfuck if a 41-year-old QB get another injury. Jets caught in a nightmare at the moment."

[cockney hammer]

will allways be the redskins to me go rams

[southbankbornnbred]

"The Jets were, yet again, absolutely abysmal in getting shut out by the Fish. All of this is becoming an embarrassment and even Saleh (largely given a free ride due to Rodgers' injury) has got some serious explaining to do at the end of this season. I rate him, defensively, but he still leads the coaching team which put together that clueless offense. He needs to answer a few key questions before he is retained for next season: he can't just say it will all get better when 41-year-old Rodgers returns. The o-line is the worst I've seen across the NFL in many years. A record 13 years without a play-off game. Jets are now the worst team across all four major US sports: that's quite an achievement. It's almost like the owners don't know how to run a professional sports franchise but are in it for the NY market's vast amounts of money. At West Ham we think Sullivan is bad""¶"

[Nutsin]

NFC West Champs!

[zebthecat]

The Chargers firing Brandon Staley and Tom Telesco is not surprising given the season so far and being battered by the Raiders of all teams. Losing to an offence that managed a big fat zero last week is quite an achievement.

[Far Cough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyiPbUdJZzg

[Far Cough]

"Shit, I didn't know he died three months ago? Rest In Peace Big Man"

[Far Cough]

"oh dear, if I saw Dick Butkus walking towards me, I think I would emigrate, the bloke was a one man wrecking crew"

[Oh dear]

"The Redskin defensive line in the early 80's was more than decent. Manley, Mann, Darryl Grant and Dave Butz at DT. I think I'd cross the road if I saw Dave Butz walking towards me, an absolute colossus. I went to the 1986 Superbowl in New Orleans and on our flight down to NO from New York Mark Gastineau, Joe Klecko and Greg Buttle (Jet Linebacker) were sitting in the row behind us. There were plenty of other Jets players on the plane. Considering their almost superstar status they were pretty decent blokes, they made it known which bar in the French Quarter they'd be at and when and anyone was welcome."

[Takashi Miike]

"""I remember when the Redskins as they were then, under Joe Gibbs, were winning Super Bowls like they they were going out of fashion with Art Monk, Diesel Riggins, Theismann"" maybe our most important part of those years was defensive end partners Dexter Manley & Charles Mann. almost two hundred sacks, five superbowls between them yet neither honoured by the hall of fame. it took them thirteen years to recognise art monk's achievements. I listened to some prick called peter king (has been involved in the HOF selection process for decades) about a year ago asked in an interview by one of the skins best reporters why joe jacoby still hadn't been honoured. he said it was down to joe having a few bad games against lawrence taylor. very few tackles could dominate LT on a consistent basis, it's why king remains an ignorant cսnt"

[southbankbornnbred]

"FC/lab, The Sack Exchange were true greats - all four of them. But they were all drafted in the late 70s and their real heyday was between 1980-84. Incredibly, it was 40 years ago. We've mostly been shit since then, give or take a few seasons of promise here and there (""ò86, Parcells era in the 90s, a bit under Herm and then a bit under Rex Ryan). We've been utter dross too often under the ownership of the Johnsons. They genuinely don't know how to run a franchise and have never learned."

[ray winstone]

"Not much of a fan these days but went to see Tampa Bay play a couple of games back in 1988, first one against Minnesota Vikings and the second against the Miami Dolphins where I got a couple of decent long lens shots of the great Dan Marino. Bucs lost both games but I have retained a soft spot for them ever since."

[Far Cough]

"Yes indeed SACK Exchange, it was a simple omission. I believe all four were invited to open the New York STOCK Exchange at one point?"

[lab]

"Far Cough 4:33""¶New York SACK Exchange . Sorry to be picky ""¶""¶.as a Jets fan I've got fuck all else to bring up !"

[Council Scum]

"Me too FC First game I watched 40 odd years ago was Cowboys v Redskins and I always backed the Indians against the cowboys (loved an underdog hence West Ham) in films, so backed the Redskins that day and stuck with them ever since."

[Far Cough]

"I remember when the Redskins as they were then, under Joe Gibbs, were winning Super Bowls like they they were going out of fashion with Art Monk, Diesel Riggins, Theismann and also the Jets with their superb New York Exchange consisting of Mark Gastineau, Joe Klecko, Marty Lyons and Abdul Salaam. those were the days"

[Council Scum]

"I looked at preseaon form and stuck a few quid on Washington for the championship, looked ok for one week."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Oh Dear - like the Collatz conjecture, that's inestimable! Same applies to the Jets! I've heard it said that if Washington ever meet the Jets in a Superbowl, the world will end. But that will still be better than watching a team coached by Rich Kotite or owned by Dan Snyder!"

[Oh dear]

"""Pretty poor quality relative to other years"" Can someone hazard a guess how much further the quality has to drop before the Redskins can get an 8-win season please."

[stewie griffin]

"Don't know that it's a great season, interesting yes, but I don't think there's a single great or even good team in the whole league. Pretty poor quality relative to other years. 9ers look the best of the bunch to me; but they're basically a first down team. If they're 2nd & 5, they'll destroy you all night, but if you win first down against them Purdy looks bang average ""ì when they take a chunk on first down it opens up their entire game plan. McCaffrey is the key ""ì if anything happens to him or that utter cսnt Deebo Samuel, they'll fall back in line with the shitness of everyone else."

[El Scorchio]

"Zeb- fully agree, and last night just made it all even more complicated and fun. Two shock results and the picture feels as clear as mud in both conferences. No one is unbeatable. Ditto your point on quarterbacks. Jordan Love laying an egg and looking more like the undrafted kid shoved into a big time situation than Tommy DeVito. And what a little story he is at the moment."

[zebthecat]

El Scorchio 2:12 Mon Dec 11 This season is turning out to be a great one. No really dominant teams. The Ravens and 49ers are closest but both are beatable. It is weird to think of all the high drafted QBs over last few years that have been busts and yet Brock Purdy looks the real deal. One good thing for everyone else is that it looks as though the Chiefs have blown home field advantage for the play-offs. Hope the 'fins sneak past the Titans but the week 16 match against the Cowboys is the ONE. Wish I hadn't chosen the Texans defence against the Jets. It seemed such an obvious pick and then Zach Wilson played his best game for over a year.

[Far Cough]

"Someone made that very point in the comments, Trunds"