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Moyes Out ( Released )
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Moyes Out ( Released )
"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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"threesixty 6:09 Mon Feb 20 All Sullivan wants, in fact all he's ever wanted is a manager to keep us in the PL. He has zero ambition beyond that, and his managerial appointments have on the whole been reflective of that ambition too. That's why the same old tired names get banded around. He totally deserves relegation, unfortunately us long suffering fans don't though."
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Pochettino is waiting for Conte too fuck off. Go back to N17 as a saviour. The media and fans would be wanking themselves stupid.! Please forget about Pochettino or Tommy Two Sheds coming here. For your own sanity.!
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"""This is the biggest league in the world and there are only 22 top jobs"" Maybe 30 years ago there were...."
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"There's lots of coaches all over Europe that would bite their hand off for this job. Relegation or not. This is the biggest league in the world and there are only 22 top jobs. The problem is that fans only think about a very narrow subset of coaches based on them being famous. Sadly, chairman are no more Knowledgeable than general fans so they too only have a limited understanding of who's any good around Europe. And subsequently you get the same dull responses .. Poch, Benitez etc. and that's it. It's so predictable. Working in the PL is life changing for 90% of European coaches on profile and money offered alone. We don't have to beg anyone to come here. Really we don't. Any of the top 10 teams managers in la liga, bundesliga, serie A would come here tomorrow for far less than 7m a year. And each of those coaches would know how to put out a better trained side than Moyes given what's In our squad."
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"Eerie - West Ham simply won't pay £15m for three months' work. It's that simple. And there is a good chance that a good manager would not take it. Because, were they to oversee a relegation, that would damage their potential earnings at a Champions League club etc who may decide they no longer want them. We're not in the market for him, realistically."
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"Moyes should have got the sack after the Leicester result and I'm sure pretty much everyman and his dog would have thanked him for the memories of a few god seasona, some good football and a obviously a European run that will be remembered for the next 10 years or so. However he has massively outstayed the welcome and is STILL living on those Sevilla and lyon results. We all know it's time for him to go, however we don't have any say. It's all down to the poison dwarf and the longer it goes on the more I think my view, of him signing off with a massive fuck you present to the fans, is close to the truth."
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"Sullivan is reactive not proactive. Should have been sounding out a better manager ages ago, but he hasn't, because he was convinced that Moyes would get his shit together and all would be good again. He'll offer the Spanish waiter a nice bonus for keeping us up, and then probably something more permanent should he do it, and we'll be back to another Moyes situation before we know it."
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64709743 BBC suggesting from a source, that it's not 100% he goes when we lose to Forest."
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Poch wouldn't have taken the West Ham back in November let alone now. He is waiting to go back to Tottenham which will likely happen in the summer.
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"He has to go whether we beat Forest or not. He has to go. End of. Now. Should've gone before WC. No result should determine his future at the club. A win over Forest doesn't change the fact that he's a negative, uninspiring dinosaur. How the fuck can a result against Forest change anything? They should be sacking him now."
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You don't think he'd take circa £15mil for 3 months work? Of course he would. Only a fucking idiot wouldn't.
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"Poch wouldn't do a firefighter's job - except maybe at Chelsea, where the lure of a lucrative full-time post with Boehly's insane money will be high. Rightly or wrongly, he won't come to a club like West Ham unless it's on a full-time, long-term contract and for a lot of cash. He wouldn't turn up at a relegation threatened club on a six-month deal. It just isn't realistic. He doesn't need the money that much that he'd risk putting a relegation on his CV. He can afford to wait."
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Eerie Descent 5:43 Mon Feb 20 The idiots in charge would rather spend more money on buying an aging injury prone striker on a long contract who the manager will never play in his correct position/formation.
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"Should be clear, I'm not talking about Parker and Potter together, obvs. They are ""either or"" type options, assuming Potter will get sacked later this week (which many Chelsea folk seem to be indicating). If we went for somebody like Parker, however, I do think you'd have to have a creative coach alongside him. The consensus seemed to be that Parker was a good motivator/manager at Bournemouth and Fulham, less good on the technicals. Don't know how true that is - but that was what supposed 'insiders' were saying."
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"Regarding a new manager, you have to make money talk in this disgrace of a situation we're in. First port of call would be to offer Poch a massive wage, and a £10mil tax free bonus for keeping us up, and he has the option of walking away end of season whatever happens. Next I'd go for Paulo Fonseca, might have to pay Lille some dough, and offer him same terms, however only if we go down can he walk away. That's big dough for the individuals, but chicken feed compared to what relegation will cost the club. Knowing those in charge would never do that, it's going to be Benitez. I'd take him over Moyes, however I don't think he'd keep us up. But it would at least give us a chance."
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"There have been quite a few messages on twitter recently from the players such as Areola earlier today saying people like to be around those who give off positive energy. Rice and Lanzini have also posted some stuff, seems all is not well and as Shakespeare said, something is rotten in the state of Denmark. It's clear he has lost the dressing room I'm hoping Noble has some fucking influence and tells the board to sack him"
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"The question of who would replace Moyes is a good, serious Q. At this late stage of the season (ie beyond the transfer windows) there won't be many options. But don't forget, Sullivan is less of a problem for an incoming manager. He might be gone, provisionally, by the end of March (when any takeover deal can be struck). For me, getting rid of Moyes and his dinosaur approach to football outweighs the problem of appointing a successor. There are a few options, none of which are great mid-season appointments. But you're looking for somebody to do a job well enough until the summer, when any new owner would review things anyway. Maybe Scott Parker (would be more of a motivational, rather than tactical, choice) with a decent coach/tactician alongside him? Maybe Potter by the end of this week (when, surely, Chelsea will sack him)? That kind of thing. Six month contract, sizable bonus for keeping us up - review in the summer. I admit there are no obvious, great choices. But we're risking relegation by persevering with a one-trick manager who got found out/exposed 12 months ago and has had absolutely nothing to offer since."
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I agree Moyes must go. Who would replace him? Put it another way who would want to work for Sullivan?
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"If he goes after the Forest game, I'd fancy a new manager coming in would just about keep us up. However, a draw would be a fucking disastrous result, as it would keep him in the job, but we'd 100% go down from there. I still think that happens if we beat Forest, but there would be a glimmer of hope. What an absolute fucking shambles."
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It's been obvious to everyone except the dwarf. That these players hate playing under him . put every penny you have on cornet suddenly being fit after he goes . To call it shambolic would be a gross understatement.
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"I fear it's too little too late. He should have been gone at Christmas, or before the World Cup, or at the start of the season, or better still a year ago."