Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[diehardhammer]

Given his track record at sparta kretinsky would have sacked Moyes ages ago if he had the power to do so Shame he doesn't have enough power yet

[goose]

Given that we don't have a proper game until 2nd April it's now or never if they want rid. But we all know he's here until the season plays out. Inconceivable at any other PL club apart from the shit show that is West Ham.

[southbankbornnbred]

"By pure chance, I ended up with a couple of contacts around Kretinsky after an entirely non-West Ham related bit of work. All the feedback has been that he's a thoroughly decent bloke, but very serious and extremely business oriented. No surprise on any front."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Boots (and others), Kretinsky wants a new manager, according to some of the folk around him. But he's currently powerless to make the change, as a minority shareholder. He's also distracted by whether to go ahead with his purchase option - although it seems clear that moves to secure a majority are afoot. The two things overlap, of course, but he can't do much about the manager other than ask the usual questions until he's the majority shareholder or chairman. Don't forget, he runs several businesses - including big energy firms (currently taking up a lot of time). He's an investor - which brings good and bad bits with it. Reckon he'll be quite a hands-off owner if he buys West Ham. He's going to need a good support team/advisers."

[LeroysBoots]

"Makes you wonder what the fuck Kretinsky is doing saying or thinking about this situation we are in If I owned 27% of West Ham I'd be seeking The termination of Moyes, especially if I'm looking to buy Gold's shares"

[Pedro]

With so many teams involved and besting each other it won't be another 42 point season Whatever happens Leeds at home will keep us up or send us down.

[Manuel]

"Yea think 37 would do it too. We simply have to beat Soton, if we don't it's all over bar the shouting. Leeds at home could well be too late. What would worry me about the away games is we are going to sides that are either pushing for Europe or trying to stay up, so apart from Brentford away no more games like Villa on Saturday who were mid-table, and their lack of urgency probably was there to see. The point is I doubt we can go toe to toe with other sides that desperately need points too. Right now I wouldn't even look beyond the Soton game."

[marty feldman]

We won't need 16 points hyperbole at it's best . 37 would be enough. As 13 Brentford says I've known it to be bad at this club in the past . But this is completely on another level . Moyes has sucked the life out of the fans and players alike . In a way Dracula could only dream about .

[13 Brentford Rd]

"That Telegraph article is spot on. Yesterday was the lowest point yet under Moyes. There was no intensity or urgency, you would never have guessed we are in a relegation battle desperate for points. The atmosphere was terrible and no one was even pissed off to give Moyes &/or Sullivan any well deserved stick I shouted out Moyes out a few times, even called our fans Muppets, no one blinked an eyelid. Just a load of tubby Essex blokes in flat caps & overly tight clothes with their mini me sons, and older fans who looked like they were on a day out from their care home. Sullivan & Moyes have sucked the life out of the club and right now I don't care if I ever went back there again."

[Charoo]

"Thanks AOI "" Southampton, Newcastle, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Leeds United.""ù Home Away""¶ Fulham Bournemouth Palace Brentford Leicester Need 16 points from them games. Going to have to get at least 2 away wins beat Southampton and Leeds and Nick 4 draws. Looks a fucking uphill task. We have to act now to give ourselves any hope. It won't happen and they'll be a London stadium fire sale come the summer."

[Keep dreaming]

"I thought I had seen enough of Moyes then this was posted.. Defending his decision not to send on Scamacca, Moyes said: ""His link-up play is very good. We know that his physical data has got to be much better than it is. I think his application is there, I think we just want the output to be bigger and more. ""Gianluca has got to get himself back. No manager wants to put out a bad team, you want to put out the players who you think are going to win for you.""ù So he is putting out the players he thinks is going to win it for him. Delusional fucking cսnt. I could actually strangled the boiled Gollum cսnt"

[Any Old Iron]

"I found the following article to be of interest concerning our present situation so opened a new thread for it last night. Unfortunately some cսnt called Joe Royal immediately censored it. He obviously thinks wanking on about his visit to Israel is more important on a WHU site. What a twat I think the article from the Telegraph is 100% spot on. We are sleepwalking to relegation, so here it is. Do West Ham actually realise they are in a relegation battle? There was a distinct lack of urgency despite their perilous league position and an enervated London Stadium crowd barely roused itself By Matt Law, FOOTBALL NEWS CORRESPONDENT, AT LONDON STADIUM 12 March 2023 ""¢ 6:05pm David Moyes - Do West Ham actually realise they are in a relegation battle? One look at the Premier League table, even after this draw lifted the club out of the relegation zone on goal difference, will tell West Ham United they are very much in a relegation battle. But do they actually believe it? On the evidence of Sunday, West Ham are a club hoping for the best. Hoping a winning goal might come, hoping their rivals might slip up and hoping that sticking with manager David Moyes proves to be the right decision. Moyes had plenty of credit in the bank after sixth- and seventh-placed finishes, and not sacking him at the first sign of trouble should be admired. But that does not guarantee that it might not backfire if the hope does not transform into some sort of reality. While their relegation rivals are treating every match like a cup final, West Ham meandered through a draw with mid-table Aston Villa like they too can see out the season with very little to play for. The problem is they can't. Said Benrahma, who equalised from the penalty spot after Ollie Watkins had given Villa the lead, might have snatched all three points but there was never a sense of urgency from the home side. They barely tossed a wooden spoon at their opponents, let alone the kitchen sink. The atmosphere at what may yet become the biggest stadium to ever grace the Championship was flat, with fans leaving for the exits before fourth official Darren England showed there would be six minutes of time added on. Such a long period of stoppage time would prompt a huge roar at Elland Road, Goodison Park or the Vitality Stadium and yet there were barely enough people left inside the ground to muster a murmur. Even the full-time boos were half-hearted. The angriest man inside the stadium appeared to be West Ham midfielder Lucas Paqueta, who, having been booked, ignored Moyes and headed straight down the tunnel after being replaced by Pablo Fornals with 13 minutes remaining. West Ham United's Lucas Paqueta reacts after being substituted as manager David Moyes looks on Lucas Paqueta strolled straight down the tunnel on being substituted CREDIT: REUTERS/Tony O'Brien ""He wanted to stay on, but I explained it to him [why he was substituted],""ù said Moyes. ""I didn't want him to get sent off because then he'd be suspended for future games. I was getting to the stage of the game where maybe fresh legs could help.""ù Moyes waited until the 86th minute to make an attacking substitution and left ¬£35 million striker Gianluca Scamacca on the substitutes' bench, presumably hoping that a winner would come without him. Defending his decision not to send on Scamacca, Moyes said: ""His link-up play is very good. We know that his physical data has got to be much better than it is. I think his application is there, I think we just want the output to be bigger and more. ""Gianluca has got to get himself back. No manager wants to put out a bad team, you want to put out the players who you think are going to win for you.""ù The popular opinion remains that West Ham are too good to go down, but they have heard that in East London before with disastrous results, so where is the sense of jeopardy? It certainly wasn't in evidence on Sunday, when Moyes could have gambled for the win, but was seemingly content not to lose. Chairman David Sullivan watched with his son Jack from the London Stadium stands, having gambled on the fact West Ham's home form will be enough to keep them up. Following the visit of Southampton after the international break, the Hammers must entertain Newcastle, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Leeds United. If it is to be their home form that keeps them up, then they will have to go on one hell of a run. Otherwise, they will need to drastically improve on a record that has seen West Ham win just once away from home in the League all season. With Moyes' team not playing again until April 2, West Ham could even go into the international break bottom of the League if results go against them. Again, the club will have to hope for the best. When Aston Villa sacked Steven Gerrard in October, the Midlands club were exactly where West Ham are now, one place outside the bottom three and two points behind the Londoners. But their panic paid off, as Villa are now comfortably in 11th place, 11 points ahead of West Ham. Moyes and West Ham must hope they can escape the drop, but so often it's the hope that kills you."

[northbankboy68]

Sullivan is the problem.

[wansteadman]

We've spunked nearly £200m on players so offering someone £10m to keep us in the premier seems to be a bargain

[New Jersey]

"From the last 38 premier league games we have gained 38 points. Surprisingly for the last five seasons ( I didn't check any further) we wouldn't have been relegated. I think this season is different, as unlike past ones where one or two teams have been cut adrift, this hasn't happened so far. Plus Moyes appears to have squandered £150m plus!"

[13 Brentford Rd]

"Sullivan & co and Moyes are deluded small minded clowns who shouldn't be anywhere near a club like ours! They are going to dine out forever on finishing 6th & 7th as if it was a major achievement. Now they think they can simply take a season out and ""rebuild"" just because they signed a few players and everyone else is going to just tread water and wait for us. Idiots don't even realise that it's their own short sightedness and lack of a coherent plan & structure that led to them having to sign that many players in one window. Had they invested wisely in players with the right type of profile, little by little each window there would be no need for major rebuilds. Even now they've overlooked that we're still short in key areas and still have am aging squad. Fucking dimwits!"

[Texas Iron]

"Seems like he's prioritizing the EuroCup ahead of Prem Survival""¶ Idiot,,,!!!"

[13 Brentford Rd]

Any decent manager would back themselves to keep us up comfortably and at least get to a European final. Just need a bit of imagination and genuine ambition. Sullivan has neither though.

[Sir Alf]

We will need someone who can get us back up. Sullivan will say Moyes is exactly the type of manager he would look at :-( Sullivan needs to be protected from himself. Act of self harm

[LJC]

I would say the opposite to be honest. Any decent manager like Biesla would want a longer contract with the idea that even if we go down then they have the opportunity to rebuild and come back up. Especially Biesla would want to build from the bottom up.

[lab]

Have Millwall prepared their banner yet ?

[El Scorchio]

"We only have 12 league games left (plus whatever we may also have in Europe) Reason being that probably most candidates who would want to take us on as a 'rescue' would want more than just to the end of the season and it's probably unlikely we'd want any of them past that, unless it's specifically someone like Carrick, or a bigger name who is perfectly fine with the very real risk of relegation and gutting/rebuilding the squad thereafter. I can't imagine too many of them about. Difficult situation for us where anyone we WANT likely isn't interested, but anyone we NEED short term, we won;t want past that. Unless we go down. Which we don;t want."

[LJC]

Why has the contract got to be only 12 games?

[GreenStreetPlayer]

It will be Sullivan who takes us down if he doesn't do anything now.

[stepney hammer]

"El Scorchio 5:14 Mon Mar 13 I think you've summed it up there. Assuming a new manager would back themselves to keep us up with the squad we have (and they should really) then there is also a trophy to be won. All you have to do is get through a few more rounds against the various incarnations of Pub Team FC across the continent and it's yours. But bigger picture, keep us up and win the Conference you start afresh next season with a decent squad on paper and Europa League football. From that perspective I think we would still be relatively attractive to SOME managers at this point, but it's the last meaningful time to make a change with this 3 week break between league games and 11 games to go. But I do think Sullivan will simply gamble on there being 3 worse teams than us and continue to sit on his hands, unfortunately. So I guess we need to hope that come the last day were at least where we are now, outside the bottom three on goal difference."