Geo engineering

[iphammer]

Do you believe in geo engineering or do you think its all nonsense  ? 

[XKhammer]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7wp777780o

[Massive Attack]

If only Auntie kept on Tomorrow's World, then we'd know what's going on.

[Mike Oxsaw]

What needs to be understood is that the con-trails you can see behind (jet) aircraft is almost (grab your Alam Partridge/Noel Edmunds moment...3...2....1...NOW!) 100% pure water - purer than anything you could find on earth, either in a bottle or from the most remote of mountain springs.

Airlines don't like wasting fuel so everything is done to convert that fuel into forward motion.

The only exception to this is when after-burners are deployed, when, apparently, it's acceptable to choke cute little bunny-rabbits in an effort to go a bit faster.

As for cloud seeding, the only connection is has with con-trails is that both occur in the sky (inside if it's raining).

[Hammer and Pickle]

Exactly - how can it be a conspiracy when it de-conspires itself on its own website?


Aaaahhhhh! Maybe the condensation on this shower unit is going to kill me!!!!!

[Hammer I am]

right right so the government is publishing notes of their global conspiracy on their own website, that actually makes sense in your head? Cloud seeding is a different thing to contrails entirely. when people breathe out on a cold day I'm guessing you think they're trying to poison you.

[Pi Alpha Nu]

As others have said this Geo Engineering is all made up bollocks spread by flat earth conspirator mentalists.
Clouds in the sky is weather and the vapour trails in the sky are aircraft exhaust gas as its fucking cold up there.

[iphammer]

Engine-exhaust gas condensation, mostly water. It’s cold up there and jet engines are hot so what you get is these condensation trails.

You’re on a wind-up - nobody is this thick.

engine exhaust gas haha ok 

obviously your half asleep and turn a blind eye to what’s really going on. All the info is all over the government website. 

[Hammer and Pickle]

Engine-exhaust gas condensation, mostly water. It’s cold up there and jet engines are hot so what you get is these condensation trails.

You’re on a wind-up - nobody is this thick.

[Mr Anon]

this chem trail stuff is bollocks and I can't believe there's people on here that actually fall for it, guess what, sometimes blue sky days turn grey. its called weather it's not a lizard illuminati plot to ruin your dog walk

So If they’re not Chem trails what are they ? And why have the government admitted to cloud seeding ? 

water moisture, you can see the same effect in WW2 videos of high level flying, or do you think the lizards were at work back then?

[iphammer]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... rming.html

[iphammer]

this chem trail stuff is bollocks and I can't believe there's people on here that actually fall for it, guess what, sometimes blue sky days turn grey. its called weather it's not a lizard illuminati plot to ruin your dog walk

So If they’re not Chem trails what are they ? And why have the government admitted to cloud seeding ? 

[yngwies Cat]

I'm all for questioning, but it's a right load of old bollocks.


Chem trails? Oh do fuck off. Cunts be moaning about boat wakes next, turning the sea white! 

File with folk that think the world is flat and your carrying 5G in your arse after having the Killer jab.

Lizzard cunts 

 

[Mr Anon]

this chem trail stuff is bollocks and I can't believe there's people on here that actually fall for it, guess what, sometimes blue sky days turn grey. its called weather it's not a lizard illuminati plot to ruin your dog walk

[Gank]

Thank you, Easthammer. A well-educated man who had never heard of this theory.

[easthammer]

Ah! An interesting thread that has, so far,only been marginally polluted ( appropriately chosen metaphor?). 
I am not so attracted to Geo-engineering but the ensuing debate (more accurately the resultant digging out) about the nature of knowledge and education.

Let me declare my vested interest. I am well into my 70s with an education to Master Degree level, but I achieved that and my BA honours through part-time study. The only full-time higher education I had after leaving school at sixteen was when I did a post-graduate certificate in education aged 32. But that was living at home with three kids in the house so hardly full-time study. I tell you all this not to suggest that I am clever, but to assure you all that I know after a lifetime of learning ( including 32 years of teaching - to teach is to learn twice) is that I know nothing.  

For example just today thanks to Mr Oxsaw I for the first time learnt about the inverse square law (I am now considering returning my MSc as I am not worthy)

PS. For what it is worth, I did agree with Mr Oxsaw that it is extremely unlikely that we could generate enough radio energy on Earth to disrupt the ionosphere in any significant way. Hold on, though. What about nuclear energy? No, what do I know? We have already established that—it's nothing. Given that I am so old, how could I possibly add anything to the debate? All my knowledge is now outdated, so it's worth nothing squared.
 

[Gank]

Unlikely, perhaps, but still a FACT (fact).

[Bungo]

Gank

I was educated at the higher levels available and could t possibly have missed anything deemed as ‘fundamental’.

 

 

Seems unlikely.

[Gank]

If you'd paid attention at your science/physics lesson you'd know how electromagnetic power dissipates according to the Inverse-square law

This is what Oxsaw says we ALL learned in “fundamental” physics AND mathematics when we ALL went to school, I’m saying there is no way anyone under 70 learned this as a basic principle in school.

[Gank]

Gank

If he is right then not only have I forgotten this ever having been taught to me but I’ll have to accept that he is right and apologise.

It is worth considering that what was taught to one group of pupils in one school, does not necessarily bear much relation to what was taught to a different group of pupils in a different school, especially when streaming was common.

Before the modern obsession with apparently focussing ALL teaching specifically at scoring the highest exam results, I can remember teachers going well beyond what they ‘needed’ to teach because they (or we) found a particular topic interesting. Sadly these diversions did sometimes happen in both maths and physics lessons!

It is highly likely that people were exposed to very different information at school, even within the same era.

 

 

 

You’re absolutely correct there, Bungo - however, I’m sure much to Oxsaw’s surprise, I was educated at the higher levels available and could t possibly have missed anything deemed as ‘fundamental’.

Far more likely is either:

a) Oxsaw is full of shit

or

b) He learned his so-called fundamental theories of atmospheric particle physics several decades before I went to school.

As I was born in the late 1970s, if b is the answer, he must be very old but also have an extraordinary memory. Taking the piss out of people who don’t know what he’s talking about for being thick (or as he insulted in my case, wheelchair bound) makes him a proper dick in my book, so hopefully he is indeed very old, because that means he will soon be dead.

[BRANDED]

Gank.

I have no idea to be fair as I haven't looked into it. It took me months and months to get near some set of beliefs on Covid that I haven't changed much since and at the moment I dont have the energy to go looking on the subject. I do know that governments have never told much in the way of truth about covid.

I do believe that science in general is in a bad state and highly corrupted. But we've had nuclear weapons for 80 years so we're on the verge of fucked every day. 

I do think weather can be bad so I'm not really stressing about it as I live in London where we have dunkelflaute. 



 

[Bungo]

Gank

If he is right then not only have I forgotten this ever having been taught to me but I’ll have to accept that he is right and apologise.

It is worth considering that what was taught to one group of pupils in one school, does not necessarily bear much relation to what was taught to a different group of pupils in a different school, especially when streaming was common.

Before the modern obsession with apparently focussing ALL teaching specifically at scoring the highest exam results, I can remember teachers going well beyond what they ‘needed’ to teach because they (or we) found a particular topic interesting. Sadly these diversions did sometimes happen in both maths and physics lessons!

It is highly likely that people were exposed to very different information at school, even within the same era.

 

[Gank]

Ah, BRANDED, you seem an intelligent and learned fellow.

Do you agree with Oxsaw, that anyone who has ever studied ‘fundamental’ mathematics or physics (which is everyone in this country) should know about the theories he has cited on this thread, or do you agree with me that this is specialist knowledge that the common man wouldn’t be expected to have even heard of?

If he is right then not only have I forgotten this ever having been taught to me but I’ll have to accept that he is right and apologise.

If I am right then it will prove that he’s pretending that this advanced theory should be common knowledge to anyone that went to school in this country and will have to admit that he’s doing so just to appear superior but has been found out as an insecure bully.

[BRANDED]

Gain of geo

[Gank]

It may be fundamental to you, but I get the impression you are a lot older than I am. I did a National Certificate in Information Technology because they hadn’t made a GCSE in it yet and I remember the first question being a picture of a desktop PC and we had to label ‘mouse’, ‘keyboard’ etc.

You get people now would howl in derision at that, but they didn’t do metalwork or woodwork classes like me. My nephew does coding at school, I wouldn’t have the first clue about that but him and all these other kids can do it. Not just the nerdy fuckers, they all do it.

I don’t start digging them out for not being able to use an abacus and I certainly don’t pretend that advanced geophysics used to be fundamental mathematics so you can fuck right off, not only are you lying but in trying to appear more intelligent you’re making yourself look a dunce. And an arrogant, smarmy one at that.
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Fuck off Oxsaw, as if that was ever taught at school!

Well, obviously never taught at a school with more ramps than stairs, as you are clearly confirming from personal experience, but it was 3rd or 4th year physics/maths level in my school.

That’s itchy beard, it wasn’t in O Level maths so it wouldn’t have been taught then, stop making this up to sound clever. You sound clever enough for knowing about it in the first place so you’re ruining it by pretending we’re all thick for not knowing it.

It's fundamental trigonometry: big words, so maybe you need sa grown-ups help to say them let alone assist you in understanding what they mean