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NFL (since 2016)
"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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Running Backs are luxury players. Was Barkley worth going 2nd.? Absolutely. Should the Giants have pick him.? Absolutely not.! Being a New York boy. And having an industrial grade idiot as GM at the time. ( Gettleman you Melt.!) Didn't help. Hope he does well. Even at Philly. I still think the Lions will represent NFC in the Super Bowl. Come February.
GO G MEN.!
GO G MEN.!
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southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 10:37 Saquon Barkley.
What a player that guy is. Best running back the league has seen for a few years, and currently on course to go past 2,000 yards in the season (if he stays injury-free, which is hard for backs these days).
Jets missed out on this guy by one draft place in 2018. Lost out on Mayfield to the Browns, then Barkley to the Giants, before taking Darnold at #3 (should have taken Josh Allen).
In a league obsessed with passers, I still like to see a nifty running back.
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sbb, agreed, I like a good running game.
Vikings, more draw plays, thank you, please.
Vikings, more draw plays, thank you, please.
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Saquon Barkley.
What a player that guy is. Best running back the league has seen for a few years, and currently on course to go past 2,000 yards in the season (if he stays injury-free, which is hard for backs these days).
Jets missed out on this guy by one draft place in 2018. Lost out on Mayfield to the Browns, then Barkley to the Giants, before taking Darnold at #3 (should have taken Josh Allen).
In a league obsessed with passers, I still like to see a nifty running back.
What a player that guy is. Best running back the league has seen for a few years, and currently on course to go past 2,000 yards in the season (if he stays injury-free, which is hard for backs these days).
Jets missed out on this guy by one draft place in 2018. Lost out on Mayfield to the Browns, then Barkley to the Giants, before taking Darnold at #3 (should have taken Josh Allen).
In a league obsessed with passers, I still like to see a nifty running back.
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Jets bye week, so had the luxury of stress-free viewing.
The late stages of that Washington/Dallas game were insane!
Detroit showing they’ve got different ways to win, too. And Chicago doing their best Jets impression.
Quite a week.
The late stages of that Washington/Dallas game were insane!
Detroit showing they’ve got different ways to win, too. And Chicago doing their best Jets impression.
Quite a week.
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Some excellent entertainment in the early games.
Dak Prescott's contract looks that little bit funner now.
Dak Prescott's contract looks that little bit funner now.
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That did not look good.
A frend of mine did a similar thing downwhill mountain biking when he went over the handlebars after hitting a rock. His recovery took nearly a year
A frend of mine did a similar thing downwhill mountain biking when he went over the handlebars after hitting a rock. His recovery took nearly a year
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no idea what's happened to Kliff Kingsbury, he seems to have forgotten how to call plays. It's horrific today, and against these useless cunts
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I love the kid. He’s got the cajones
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they have to let the next HC pick his own staff, not the quarterback or GM. travis wasn't a big runner, so he should be ok
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Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 22:17 SB, Travis was really good in college and very consistent. It's a no brainer giving him a chance as starter, it's only the injury that made him go that late in the draft
TM - yeah, I agree. Not sure how good he'll be coming back from a bad leg injury - but surely we have to give him a shot next season? We put him on IR over the summer, but he attends all of the walkthroughs and playbook sessions. He seems pretty studious. In theory, we could even activate him later this season if it becomes obvious that Rodgers isn't coming back in 2025.
There's so much to fix at the Jets - starting with the HC and co-ordinators - that a badly-coached, high-pick QB would just send us into the same directionless spiral we had with Darnold and Wilson. They need to fix the coaching and trenches first: if you can't block or run the ball, then any QB will struggle.
There's so much to fix at the Jets - starting with the HC and co-ordinators - that a badly-coached, high-pick QB would just send us into the same directionless spiral we had with Darnold and Wilson. They need to fix the coaching and trenches first: if you can't block or run the ball, then any QB will struggle.
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SB, Travis was really good in college and very consistent. It's a no brainer giving him a chance as starter, it's only the injury that made him go that late in the draft
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Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 21:14 Sanchez was the worst I've seen in a Redskins shirt, and we've had some bad quarterbacks
He was so shite, TM, wasn't he?! We massively overspent on him: traded up the board to take him as the #5 pick. His decision-making was inept.
The one thing I'll say in his defence is that he was comfortable not throwing much - and never kicked up a fuss. But basically, he was a very expensive hand-off guy: we had two good running backs who pounded out the yards under Rex Ryan. So our QB was rarely our first option. We still went to back-to-back Championship games, because of Rex's defense and particularly Revis Island. I'd take that performance now!
The one thing I'll say in his defence is that he was comfortable not throwing much - and never kicked up a fuss. But basically, he was a very expensive hand-off guy: we had two good running backs who pounded out the yards under Rex Ryan. So our QB was rarely our first option. We still went to back-to-back Championship games, because of Rex's defense and particularly Revis Island. I'd take that performance now!
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Without getting ahead of ourselves - long way to go this season - but I'm not entirely sure the Jets should draft a QB with an early pick next year. People are, probably rightly, assuming that Rodgers won't come back under a new GM and HC. So many are assuming we'll be in the market for a QB in the draft.
But we've got this kid Jordan Travis on our roster, who has missed this year recovering fully from his broken leg. We drafted him injured in the 5th round this year, but he would otherwise have been a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He's had a year on the sidelines, experiencing the NFL, learning playbooks, adding upper body muscle etc - albeit he's not played.
If I was a new incoming HC, I'd be tempted to look at Travis next year, and fix the parts of the team that are incredibly poor and letting down Rodgers - like the defensive and o-lines. The Jets need to learn how to block and run the football before they could even begin to make good use of a QB anyway. But you watch: it's Gotham, and they will want their QB.
But we've got this kid Jordan Travis on our roster, who has missed this year recovering fully from his broken leg. We drafted him injured in the 5th round this year, but he would otherwise have been a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He's had a year on the sidelines, experiencing the NFL, learning playbooks, adding upper body muscle etc - albeit he's not played.
If I was a new incoming HC, I'd be tempted to look at Travis next year, and fix the parts of the team that are incredibly poor and letting down Rodgers - like the defensive and o-lines. The Jets need to learn how to block and run the football before they could even begin to make good use of a QB anyway. But you watch: it's Gotham, and they will want their QB.
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Sanchez was the worst I've seen in a Redskins shirt, and we've had some bad quarterbacks
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RBshorty wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 20:17 South. The issue is the game is now centred around the QB in ever aspect. On and off the field. Just look at the league standings. If you’re QB is injured or not Pro ready when you leave college. Your team is constantly on the back foot. The moment you’re QB goes down. That’s it. Season over.
Whoever the Giants draft. Won’t start on day 1. At worse they might get pulled in by the final third of next season.? Part of the reason we are here was because the organisation needed Jones on the field quickly. I think Mara might have learned for that experience.
RB - I hear you. Although I'm not so sure your new pick will get much time. If the Giants suck for the rest of the season, you'll likely have a top-five pick. Which means you'll be under big pressure to start any new QB almost immediately. Jones started ahead of Eli in the third game of his rookie season game. Because why would you start DeVito (unless he rips it up for the rest of this season), or somebody like him? Franchises are under so much pressure with QBs now, as you say.
The Jets should not have started Darnold straight away. Many of their current problems (not all - that's on the owners!) can be traced back to that decision. We drafted Darnold at #3 (lost out on Mayfield), but he was a year younger than most college QBs in that draft. So he was very young for the NFL. We put him straight in the starting line-up from week one - and it was hard for him from day one. That kid has some talent, as he's finally showing at Minnesota, but he never got time to learn how to be an NFL player at the Jets. We did the same with Sanchez and Wilson etc. It just seems to be what (bad) teams do these days.
The Jets should not have started Darnold straight away. Many of their current problems (not all - that's on the owners!) can be traced back to that decision. We drafted Darnold at #3 (lost out on Mayfield), but he was a year younger than most college QBs in that draft. So he was very young for the NFL. We put him straight in the starting line-up from week one - and it was hard for him from day one. That kid has some talent, as he's finally showing at Minnesota, but he never got time to learn how to be an NFL player at the Jets. We did the same with Sanchez and Wilson etc. It just seems to be what (bad) teams do these days.
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no, I think he hangs in there now. it'll be interesting if kliff kingsbury is approached, heard a couple of rumours of dallas. I'd stay well away from them and stay put for now, but if big money's offered he may jump
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Both Daboll and Schoen went in knowing they had a shit hand to play with. And was going to require the best part of a decade to even get back on a level playing field. They both should be safe for the next two seasons. Unless Mara goes the full Jerry.?