The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

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[Nutsin]

You think the EU is any different to the US?

Yes. 

The EU imports more from China than the US does.

The trade relationships between the United States (US) and China, and the European Union (EU) and China, differ significantly in terms of trade balances, composition of goods and services, policy approaches, and geopolitical considerations. Below is a detailed comparison based on the most recent available data and trends up to April 2025:

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### **1. Trade Balance**
- **US-China Trade**:
  - The US has a significant trade deficit with China, which reached **$295.4 billion in 2024** for goods, with imports from China totaling **$438.9 billion** and exports to China at **$143.5 billion**. Including services, the deficit was **$263.3 billion**.[](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/chin ... blic-china)[](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... nd-mexico/)
  - This persistent deficit has been a focal point of US trade policy, with concerns about reliance on Chinese manufacturing and perceived unfair trade practices, such as currency manipulation and state subsidies.[](https://guides.loc.gov/us-trade-with-china)
  - The deficit peaked at **$418.2 billion in 2018** during the Trump administration’s trade war but has since moderated due to tariffs and supply chain diversification.[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)

- **EU-China Trade**:
  - The EU also runs a substantial trade deficit with China for goods, which was **€292 billion in 2023** (down from a record €396 billion in 2022). In 2020, the deficit was €181 billion, showing a growing imbalance over time.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)[](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistic ... statistics)
  - Unlike the US, the EU has a trade surplus in services with China, amounting to **€14.1 billion in 2023**, with China being the EU’s fourth-largest services trading partner.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
  - The EU’s trade deficit is driven by high volumes of manufactured goods imports, but its export profile includes high-value goods like motor vehicles and pharmaceuticals, which partially offset the imbalance.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)

**Key Difference**: The US has a larger goods trade deficit with China relative to its total trade volume, and unlike the EU, it does not benefit from a services trade surplus. The EU’s trade deficit, while significant, is mitigated by stronger exports in specific high-value sectors and a services surplus.

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### **2. Composition of Trade**
- **US-China Trade**:
  - **Imports from China**: Dominated by consumer goods and technology, including **telephones, computers, semiconductors, furniture, toys, and textiles**. China was the second-largest supplier of US goods in 2024, accounting for **12% of total US imports**.[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)
  - **Exports to China**: Include **agricultural products** (e.g., soybeans), **aircraft**, **machinery**, and **energy products** like natural gas. However, exports are significantly lower than imports, contributing to the trade imbalance.[](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/chin ... blic-china)
  - Services trade is less prominent, with the US exporting **$199.2 billion** in goods and services combined to China in 2024, compared to importing **$462.5 billion**.[](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... nd-mexico/)

- **EU-China Trade**:
  - **Imports from China**: Primarily **telecommunications equipment, electrical machinery, and automatic data-processing machines**, reflecting China’s role as a manufacturing hub for electronics. In 2023, China supplied **€516.2 billion** in goods to the EU, the largest share of EU imports after the US.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)[](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025 ... them-apart)
  - **Exports to China**: Focused on high-value manufactured goods, including **motor cars and vehicles, medicaments, and machinery**, with exports totaling **€223.5 billion in 2023**. The EU is a major supplier of luxury goods and automotive products, driven by China’s growing middle class.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)[](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025 ... them-apart)[](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56093378)
  - **Services Trade**: The EU exports significant services to China, particularly in **financial services, tourism, and intellectual property**, contributing to the €14.1 billion surplus in 2023.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)

**Key Difference**: The EU exports a higher proportion of high-value, specialized goods (e.g., vehicles, pharmaceuticals) to China compared to the US, which focuses more on raw materials and agricultural products. The EU also has a stronger services trade presence, while US trade is heavily skewed toward goods imports.

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### **3. Policy and Geopolitical Approach**
- **US-China Trade**:
  - The US has adopted a confrontational approach, emphasizing **tariffs** and **export controls** to address trade imbalances and national security concerns. In 2024, tariffs on Chinese goods reached **145%** (including a 125% reciprocal tariff and a 20% tariff related to fentanyl precursors).[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)
  - The Trump administration’s trade war (2018–2019) and subsequent policies under Biden aimed to reduce dependency on Chinese imports, leading to a **2.8% increase in imports** and a **2.9% decrease in exports** from 2023 to 2024.[](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/chin ... blic-china)
  - The US has prioritized **decoupling** or **derisking** supply chains, encouraging companies to shift production to countries like Vietnam and Mexico, which has reduced China’s share of US imports (Mexico overtook China as the top US supplier in 2023).[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)[](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/how-chi ... iffs-.html)
  - National security concerns, such as China’s dominance in **5G networks** and critical minerals, drive policies to restrict Chinese technology and investments.[](https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/conten ... lationship)

- **EU-China Trade**:
  - The EU adopts a **multifaceted approach**, viewing China as a **partner, competitor, and systemic rival** (per its 2019 strategic outlook). It seeks **reciprocity** and a **level playing field**, addressing issues like market access, intellectual property rights, and forced technology transfers.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
  - The EU has imposed targeted tariffs, such as on **Chinese electric vehicles** (up to 35.3% in 2024) and **glass fiber yarns**, to counter dumping and protect local industries. However, it avoids broad, punitive tariffs like those of the US.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)[](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/worl ... china.html)
  - The EU engages in **dialogue** through mechanisms like the **EU-China Summit** and **High-Level Economic and Trade Dialogue**, aiming to maintain open communication while addressing trade imbalances.[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
  - Unlike the US, the EU is increasingly dependent on Chinese imports, with China’s share of EU manufactured goods imports rising, making full decoupling less feasible. This dependency complicates alignment with US policies on issues like Huawei and 5G.[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)[](https://www.piie.com/research/piie-char ... orted-more)[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)

**Key Difference**: The US pursues an aggressive, tariff-heavy strategy focused on reducing dependency and countering China’s geopolitical influence, while the EU balances cooperation and competition, prioritizing market access and dialogue to manage its growing reliance on Chinese goods.

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### **4. Trade Dependencies and Diversification**
- **US-China Trade**:
  - The US has reduced its reliance on Chinese imports since 2018, with China’s share of US imports dropping as Mexico, Canada, and the EU have become larger suppliers. US import concentration for manufactured goods has diversified, reversing trends from 2013–2018.[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)[](https://www.piie.com/research/piie-char ... orted-more)[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)
  - US trade dependencies on China remain significant for **electronics, semiconductors, and critical minerals**, but policies encourage reshoring and sourcing from allies like Vietnam (US imports from Vietnam doubled from 2019 to 2024).[](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/how-chi ... iffs-.html)
  - China’s import dependency on the US is relatively low, except for commodities like **soybeans** and **energy**, allowing China to diversify its trade toward emerging markets.[](https://merics.org/en/report/growing-as ... rade-china)

- **EU-China Trade**:
  - The EU has become **more dependent** on Chinese manufactured goods, with China’s contribution to the EU’s import concentration index rising from 2013 to 2023. EU trade dependencies on China increased to **12% of imports in 2022**, up from 7% in 2000.[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)[](https://merics.org/en/report/growing-as ... rade-china)
  - China is the EU’s **largest source of goods imports** (€516.2 billion in 2023), surpassing the US. This dependency is particularly strong in **telecommunications equipment** and **electronics**, making derisking challenging.[](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025 ... them-apart)[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)
  - The EU struggles with diversifying import sources due to China’s dominance in global manufacturing (29% of world value-added in manufacturing) and the lack of a unified industrial policy.[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)[](https://www.allianz-trade.com/en_BE/new ... china.html)

**Key Difference**: The US has made progress in diversifying away from Chinese imports, while the EU’s dependency on China has deepened, creating a divergence in economic vulnerabilities and policy priorities.

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### **5. Impact of Recent Developments (2024–2025)**
- **US-China Trade**:
  - The escalation of the US-China trade war under President Trump’s second term (starting 2025) has intensified with **145% tariffs** on Chinese goods, prompting China to impose **34% retaliatory tariffs** on all US imports. This has raised concerns about global trade disruptions and higher consumer prices in the US.[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)[](https://www.politico.eu/article/global- ... s-tariffs/)[](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/how-chi ... iffs-.html)
  - US companies are increasingly relocating production to Southeast Asia and Latin America to mitigate tariff impacts, with Chinese firms also shifting operations to countries like Vietnam.[](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/how-chi ... iffs-.html)
  - Public sentiment in the US is skeptical, with only **10% of Americans** believing US-China trade benefits the US more than China, compared to **46%** who see it favoring China.[](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... nd-mexico/)

- **EU-China Trade**:
  - Trump’s tariffs on both China and the EU (20% across-the-board, higher for cars) have pushed the EU to explore closer trade ties with China to offset potential losses in the US market. For example, the EU and China restarted negotiations on **electric vehicle pricing** in April 2025.[](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/worl ... china.html)[](https://www.reuters.com/world/trade-cri ... 025-04-11/)[](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/worl ... china.html)
  - However, tensions persist due to China’s **overproduction** and **dumping** of cheap goods, which threaten EU industries like steel and chemicals, and its support for Russia in the Ukraine conflict.[](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/worl ... china.html)[](https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025 ... them-apart)
  - The EU faces internal divisions, with some member states favoring deeper ties with China for economic reasons, while others align with US security concerns, complicating a unified approach.[](https://www.reuters.com/world/trade-cri ... 025-04-11/)[](https://www.allianz-trade.com/en_BE/new ... china.html)

**Key Difference**: The US is doubling down on a trade war with China, driving decoupling efforts, while the EU is caught between seeking new opportunities with China and addressing competitive and geopolitical challenges, leading to a more ambivalent strategy.

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### **6. Global Trade Context**
- **US-China Trade**:
  - The US has lost ground to China as a global trade partner, with China surpassing the US in total trade volume in 2012 ($6.2 trillion vs. $5.3 trillion in 2024). China is now the dominant trade partner for most of Asia, Africa, and South America.[](https://www.voronoiapp.com/trade/-Globa ... -2024-4080)[](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/how ... 2000-2024/)
  - The USMCA (United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement) has strengthened North American trade, with Mexico overtaking China as the US’s top supplier in 2023.[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)

- **EU-China Trade**:
  - China overtook the US as the EU’s largest trading partner in 2020, with trade worth **$709 billion** compared to $671 billion with the US. This shift was driven by China’s economic recovery post-COVID and demand for EU goods like cars and luxury products.[](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56093378)[](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56093378)
  - The EU’s trade with China is more integrated into its economy (28% of GDP vs. 18.4% for the US), making it more vulnerable to disruptions in the US-China trade war.[](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/vis ... 2000-2024/)

**Key Difference**: China’s trade dominance is more pronounced in the EU, where it is the top trading partner, while the US has diversified its trade partnerships, reducing China’s relative importance.

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### **Summary Table**

| **Aspect**                | **US-China Trade**                                                                 | **EU-China Trade**                                                                 |
|---------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| **Goods Trade Deficit**   | $295.4 billion (2024)                                                    | €292 billion (2023)                                                       |[](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/chin ... blic-china)[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
| **Services Trade**        | Deficit ($263.3 billion total, 2024)                                      | Surplus (€14.1 billion, 2023)                                             |[](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... nd-mexico/)[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
| **Main Imports**          | Telephones, computers, semiconductors, furniture, textiles                | Telecommunications equipment, electrical machinery, data-processing machines |[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
| **Main Exports**          | Agricultural products, aircraft, machinery, energy                        | Motor cars, medicaments, machinery                                        |[](https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/chin ... blic-china)[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
| **Policy Approach**       | Aggressive tariffs (145%), decoupling, national security focus            | Dialogue, targeted tariffs, reciprocity focus                              |[](https://english.elpais.com/economy-and- ... nship.html)[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)
| **Dependency Trend**      | Decreasing, diversifying to Mexico, Vietnam                               | Increasing, higher reliance on Chinese manufactures                        |[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)[](https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-eco ... pendencies)
| **Geopolitical Stance**   | Confrontational, trade war escalation                                    | Partner, competitor, rival; seeks cooperation amid tensions                |[](https://www.politico.eu/article/global- ... s-tariffs/)[](https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-tr ... s/china_en)

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### **Conclusion**
The US-China trade relationship is characterized by a large trade deficit, a focus on consumer goods imports, and an aggressive policy of tariffs and decoupling driven by national security and economic competition. In contrast, the EU-China trade relationship is more balanced in terms of goods and services, with a stronger emphasis on high-value exports and services, but it faces challenges from growing dependency and internal divisions. While the US actively reduces its reliance on China, the EU is deepening its trade ties, navigating a delicate balance between economic opportunities and geopolitical risks. These differences reflect distinct economic structures, policy priorities, and geopolitical alignments as of April 2025.

[goose]

You think the EU is any different to the US?

Yes. 

The EU imports more from China than the US does.

[Nutsin]

You think the EU is any different to the US?

Yes. 

[nychammer]

Something to consider. 

If China’s cheap labor hollows out a countries middle class by taking away manufacturing Jobs, and undercuts the value of Domestic products, why would another country choose that option ?  We have all seen the effects that the China model has done to the USA, who do you think will want to follow suit ? 

Do you think the EU will be on board with that?
 Is it a price worth paying for cheap goods?

 There’s a price to pay for cheap goods. Not sure other countries will want to pay it or can afford to pay it. 

Trump needs to slow walk any deal with China, make them feel the pain, civil unrest will be a big issue. So will the continued decline of their real estate market.

might take a minute but it’s gonna be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

 

if you are going to go this route you have to hold the line. The end game is fair trade and once those agreements are in place things will even off, but you have to hold feet to the fire to get them. Every chicken little is out there squawking doom and gloom, but Trump was elected promising he would do this so we the people can have little complaint, we have no choice but to trust and believe it works in our favor. 

[goose]

In other news, Trump throws tantrum because FEE won’t lower interest rates.

and lies about the price of eggs coming down:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77ndzy0m2vo

 

[goose]

You think the EU is any different to the US?

[Nutsin]

Something to consider. 

If China’s cheap labor hollows out a countries middle class by taking away manufacturing Jobs, and undercuts the value of Domestic products, why would another country choose that option ?  We have all seen the effects that the China model has done to the USA, who do you think will want to follow suit ? 

Do you think the EU will be on board with that?
 Is it a price worth paying for cheap goods?

 There’s a price to pay for cheap goods. Not sure other countries will want to pay it or can afford to pay it. 

Trump needs to slow walk any deal with China, make them feel the pain, civil unrest will be a big issue. So will the continued decline of their real estate market.

might take a minute but it’s gonna be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
 

[goose]

The irony of joyo calling someone ‘unfunny’.

[only1billybonds]

"Benny fits"  

Got me giggling.

[Cabbige Savage]

See you on Tik Tok loser!

Picjkle has the bess tik toks abowt free EU benny fits

Bore off you unfunny troll 

haha you upset becose transformer men not allowd in women toilet

[XKhammer]

See you on Tik Tok loser!

Picjkle has the bess tik toks abowt free EU benny fits

Bore off you unfunny troll 

[Cabbige Savage]

See you on Tik Tok loser!

Picjkle has the bess tik toks abowt free EU benny fits

[BillyJenningsBoots]

'wiped out, used as a headline by most sites'

You just can't help yourself ,can you?

Anyway, I'm blocking you yet again, you long-necked, moronic, fantasist, trolling, Polish cuckold.

Ha ha ....   just couldnt handle it... and no I am not Pickle. Id suggest you keep your nose out of other peoples business in future son!

Looks like its you that are "wiped out" ... did you see what I did there!

See you on Tik Tok loser!

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

'wiped out, used as a headline by most sites'

You just can't help yourself ,can you?

Anyway, I'm blocking you yet again, you long-necked, moronic, fantasist, trolling, Polish cuckold.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

I can't believe you've actually quoted chronic TDS sufferers the BBC in this matter

Picking more holes in other posters comments without anything to say yourself!?

BTW another site using the "out" word. Im starting to think I was right all along even though it was a mistake!

https://www.indmoney.com/blog/us-stocks ... ear-market

You got nothing to say about that all of a sudden!?

Definitely H&P. When totally humiliated in an argument just pretends he hasn't been and tries to brazen it out.

Just because half the MSM also suffer from TDS doesn't alter the meaning of commonplace words and phrases.

Anyway, since when did you become Warren Buffet you fantasist twat? I though your conceits are that you are an expert on the ancient City of Ur and governance and the rule of law, while actually being a translator of benefits forms for vodka?

Totally humiliated you still think saying wiped out, used as a headline by most sites shows no knowledge of how markets worked inspite of their clear expertise in the finance and markets sphere. Im afraid youve still not backed that up you simpleton.

I was expecting some sort of argument but I see youve still got nothing. I suggest you pop back over to tik tok son thats about all your intellect or lack of can handle. Do come back when youve got something of importance to say. Maybe Pickle will be back then cos he/she/they are not me!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/a ... riffs.html

Another site for you this time the least woke and most right wing mainstream paper in the UK. Im going to be busy telling them all about your greater knowledge and how we all should bow down to you and rephrase all references to "Wiped Out" relating to your Orange faced demigod tanking the stock markets.

Enjoy your tik tok time SurfaceCleaner!!! You fuckwit!  

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Everyone in the country could find somewhere where they felt threatened. Still plenty of pubs, where people would feel ill at ease if they weren't from the immediate area.

Most people don't go running to get  common sense, widely accepted and established laws changed over it though.

And as others have said "what's the threat"? Isn't one of their demands to use women's toilets? By that point they would've been in whatever place they were in for a while before? If they were going to actually get threatened it would be early doors, not when they decided to use the women's toilets?

Long haired hippies used to regularly get beaten up decades ago. They used to just crack on.

Nowadays blokes dressed as women, bleat on about threats that aren't even there.

Worlds gone bat shit crazy.


 

.
There was a time when the BBC had standards . 
Turned injun a long time back.

Jon Soppy 
Emily Mattress

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

I can't believe you've actually quoted chronic TDS sufferers the BBC in this matter

Picking more holes in other posters comments without anything to say yourself!?

BTW another site using the "out" word. Im starting to think I was right all along even though it was a mistake!

https://www.indmoney.com/blog/us-stocks ... ear-market

You got nothing to say about that all of a sudden!?

Definitely H&P. When totally humiliated in an argument just pretends he hasn't been and tries to brazen it out.

Just because half the MSM also suffer from TDS doesn't alter the meaning of commonplace words and phrases.

Anyway, since when did you become Warren Buffet you fantasist twat? I though your conceits are that you are an expert on the ancient City of Ur and governance and the rule of law, while actually being a translator of benefits forms for vodka?

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

I can't believe you've actually quoted chronic TDS sufferers the BBC in this matter

Picking more holes in other posters comments without anything to say yourself!?

BTW another site using the "out" word. Im starting to think I was right all along even though it was a mistake!

https://www.indmoney.com/blog/us-stocks ... ear-market

You got nothing to say about that all of a sudden!?

[Nutsin]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

“Nutsin Buffet” lol! 

made me laugh!

[Cabbige Savage]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

 

Oh well thanks Surface clearly a complete misunderstanding of how markets works because in one sentence I used out and another I used off. Well I need to go back to Finance school and retake all all my accounting qualifications.

Thanks for the tip genius! So just to be clear Trillions were as I said wiped out! Have a read below and jog on you dick!

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverag ... eUhbOGt2Wy

Ill let Market Watch know that the stock market had wiped off $9.6bn not wiped out! god what idiots!

Yes Pijckle firend - you still no1 WHO brain.
you shud do the pointy heads thing agayn tho.

 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

 

Oh well thanks Surface clearly a complete misunderstanding of how markets works because in one sentence I used out and another I used off. Well I need to go back to Finance school and retake all all my accounting qualifications.

Thanks for the tip genius! So just to be clear Trillions were as I said wiped out! Have a read below and jog on you dick!

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverag ... eUhbOGt2Wy

Ill let Market Watch know that the stock market had wiped off $9.6bn not wiped out! god what idiots!

Just repeating the shit you wrote doesn't make it any better. And quoting some other cսnt that also deliberately uses the wrong word in order to over-sensationalise the position doesn't help you out either. Words have different meanings and they matter. The only other twat on here that uses his own private definitions of words at variance with general usage or their dictionary definition is H&P. But no, that couldn't possibly be, could it?

No 'investments' have  been 'wiped out'. Some investments may now only be what they were worth a year ago but, hey, 'markets can go down as well as up'. It's possible that some short-term speculators have taken a massive bath, but, a) again, hey, that's the risk you take and b) I couldn't really give a shit about them because (see a))

You claimed I didnt know how markets worked. When put on the spot you claimed it was because I said that Triilions were wiped out instead of Trillions were wiped off. Big deal you couldnt back up your claim and to trivialise it even more it turns out Stocks new outlets also use the very same word in their headlines.

Run along you simpleton - if youve got nothing to say stfu.

Go and Comment on the Joke thread leave the important chat to those that actually have something to say rather than picking tiny holes in other posters comments.

See ya numbnuts 

[WHU(Exeter)]

Everyone in the country could find somewhere where they felt threatened. Still plenty of pubs, where people would feel ill at ease if they weren't from the immediate area.

Most people don't go running to get  common sense, widely accepted and established laws changed over it though.

And as others have said "what's the threat"? Isn't one of their demands to use women's toilets? By that point they would've been in whatever place they were in for a while before? If they were going to actually get threatened it would be early doors, not when they decided to use the women's toilets?

Long haired hippies used to regularly get beaten up decades ago. They used to just crack on.

Nowadays blokes dressed as women, bleat on about threats that aren't even there.

Worlds gone bat shit crazy.

 

[goose]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

I can't believe you've actually quoted chronic TDS sufferers the BBC in this matter

I don’t have an issue with the content of either. The article about Nvidia you can find similar in many different sources. The numbers about the impact are the same wherever you get your news.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Tariffs in action:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xzn6jmzpo

bad news for Nutsin Buffet.

good summary here too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9ljwgg9y0o

I can't believe you've actually quoted chronic TDS sufferers the BBC in this matter

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

'Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments'

Wiped out, you said, not wiped off.

The investments aren't 'wiped out', they are now worth about what they were a year ago. You could say that trillions were wiped off the value of the entire stock market, but that means nothing. Presumably the previous year's gain were, um, 'wiped on' 

 

Oh well thanks Surface clearly a complete misunderstanding of how markets works because in one sentence I used out and another I used off. Well I need to go back to Finance school and retake all all my accounting qualifications.

Thanks for the tip genius! So just to be clear Trillions were as I said wiped out! Have a read below and jog on you dick!

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecoverag ... eUhbOGt2Wy

Ill let Market Watch know that the stock market had wiped off $9.6bn not wiped out! god what idiots!

Just repeating the shit you wrote doesn't make it any better. And quoting some other cսnt that also deliberately uses the wrong word in order to over-sensationalise the position doesn't help you out either. Words have different meanings and they matter. The only other twat on here that uses his own private definitions of words at variance with general usage or their dictionary definition is H&P. But no, that couldn't possibly be, could it?

No 'investments' have  been 'wiped out'. Some investments may now only be what they were worth a year ago but, hey, 'markets can go down as well as up'. It's possible that some short-term speculators have taken a massive bath, but, a) again, hey, that's the risk you take and b) I couldn't really give a shit about them because (see a))