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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
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Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 19:13goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:56Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:33GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
GM are the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US.
try again.Wake me up when we get Stagflation!
Wake me up when they manufacture iPhones in the US
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goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:56Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:33GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
GM are the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US.
try again.
Wake me up when we get Stagflation!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 18:33GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
GM are the biggest manufacturer of cars in the US.
try again.
try again.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
GM could always make all their autos and auto parts in the USA therefor removing any Tarrif too of course. So it’s not permanent, is it.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
They just got a nice big tax break with Trumps BBB plus new markets are opening up so an opportunity to gain market share will help their bottom line.
Now all that VAT money, sorry I mean Tarrif money Trump wants to use it to offer more tax cuts and or pay down the debt.
So corporations give up some profit but get a better chance to compete and grow and the savings go to the middle class. I like the policy.
These corporations have been raking it in for years, the CEO’s get paid silly money, even the bad ones. Redirecting their profits and passing it on to the public with tax removals sounds like a good idea to me.
Any jobs lost at GM or other CO’s will be replaced by all the companies building new offices and warehouses/ plants in the USA to get around Tarrifs.
Sounds good to me.
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Retarded like thinking a permanent tariff is transitory? That kind?
I’ve no idea why you’re bringing VAT into this. Unless you’re finally agreeing that tariffs are nothing more than a glorified sales tax?
I’ve no idea why you’re bringing VAT into this. Unless you’re finally agreeing that tariffs are nothing more than a glorified sales tax?
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Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.
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Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
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Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.
Silly nuts!
Silly nuts!
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If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.
sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
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What like VAT you mean?
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No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
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goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:36Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:33goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:23Hahaha“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless![]()
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.
Silly nuts!What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?
nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again!
Soppy cսnt!
Soppy cսnt!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:33goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:23Hahaha“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless![]()
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.
Silly nuts!
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?
nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
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goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 17:23Hahaha“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless![]()
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.
Silly nuts!
Silly nuts!
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Hahaha
“good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless
btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
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I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.
Poor Goose!
Poor Goose!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 16:53You are clueless!
Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?
Poor Goose.
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
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goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:43No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.
Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
You are clueless!
Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?
Poor Goose.
Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?
Poor Goose.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:32And yet the stock market is flying high!
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.
Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
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And yet the stock market is flying high!
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not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
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goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:09Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
So desperate !
Poor Goose!
Poor Goose!
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Nutsin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:02He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
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goose wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 14:49He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.
so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?
what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
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He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.
so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?
what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.
so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?
what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?