Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

[stubbo-admin]

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In

1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
42. Quinten Timber | CM
43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs

Rumoured Out

1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
9. Emerson | LB | Marseille

Confirmed In

1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out

1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
10. Dondre Abraham | Released
11. Mehmet Halim | Released
12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
13. Michail Antonio | Released
14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

[southbankbornnbred]

Lavia can’t play two games a week - so was deregistered in Europe by Chelsea last season. He’s not an advert for paying big in the Championship, despite his obvious talent.

[onsideman]

Liverpool have just paid £30m odd for an 18 year old centre back I've never heard of. Likewise Bournemouth for Diakite. £40m for Ramsay... £30m for Dewsbury-Hall. Nothing comes cheap unless you pick them up at an earlier stage... and that's something we've proved to be spectacularly shit at

[fraser]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

Bung in Ward-Prowse into the deal and maybe that swings it!

I don't think they're desperate 

[southbankbornnbred]

I doubt anybody (except equally-stupid Newcastle) would pay £50m for a 21-year-old from the Championship. And Southampton must know it. My guess is they see him as central to getting them back up. But money talks when deadlines loom.

Fuck me. You do realise that just two years ago someone (Chelsea) paid £50m+ for a 19 year old from the Championship? And Southampton must know it, seeing as they were the club who were paid it (for Romeo Lavia).

 

 

Yeah, but that transfer is now seen as bonkers given Lavia’s fitness record. It has made him a bit of a disappointment, even aged just 21. It’s a salutary warning against paying whopping fees for unproven Championship talent. And, as you say, surely Soton know it.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 

 

With the Lavia deal Southampton just let Liverpool keep upping their bids over a 3 week period. They finally accepted the 4th bid, which was about 50% more than their first bid had been, by which time Chelsea had bid for him too. You'd imagine Southampton might hope for similar to happen again.

All speculation, but I could see Sully trying to do what happened with Hermansen again - pretend to have cooled interest, look at other options, then come back to Southampton in a week or two with a final offer and tell them otherwise we'll get someone else. If they don't have any other potential buyers they'll probably go for it, as this would be getting close to deadline day.

[twoleftfeet]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

Bung in Ward-Prowse into the deal and maybe that swings it!

£30m plus Cornet 

[Lato]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

Bung in Ward-Prowse into the deal and maybe that swings it!

[Lato]

I see we are linked with Elnesyri.....Again! Whats that 3 pre-seasons running now? Give it another 3 and he will be ripe enough to Join Potters West Ham Dad's Army! 

[Fauxstralian]

I think we might stretch to £40m for Fernandes as a midpoint between 30 & 50 & that may be enough. Maybe , maybe not 
I’d like to see him and the Lille player but it’s Sullivan (short arms, deep pockets , complete cսnt) that is running the show

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I doubt anybody (except equally-stupid Newcastle) would pay £50m for a 21-year-old from the Championship. And Southampton must know it. My guess is they see him as central to getting them back up. But money talks when deadlines loom.

Fuck me. You do realise that just two years ago someone (Chelsea) paid £50m+ for a 19 year old from the Championship? And Southampton must know it, seeing as they were the club who were paid it (for Romeo Lavia).

[southbankbornnbred]

If we’re determined on Fernandes, just let Southampton sweat.

I doubt anybody (except equally-stupid Newcastle) would pay £50m for a 21-year-old from the Championship. And Southampton must know it. My guess is they see him as central to getting them back up. But money talks when deadlines loom.

[dealcanvey]

Ramsey to Newcastle. 43m.

 

[southbankbornnbred]

The point about Fernandes at £50m is not that he’s a bad player - perhaps not. But at that price, even aged 21, there’s a strong chance you’d never get the money back if he didn’t work out.

Like Kilman right now (very different player, obvs). Nobody would pay anywhere near that amount for him now.

And we’ve got to stop losing big cash/value on people like Kilman, Alvarez, JWP etc.

[El Scorchio]

Didn't the opposite happen last season, the manager didn't want Fernandes so we didn't buy him and ended up stuck with Guido and we're moaning because we shouldn't have listened to the manager as being stuck with him is stopping our business now. I don't think we should pay anything close to what they want for him, I do think we should have found this out earlier though. 

Yup, I believe the scarf who shall not be mentioned wanted Fernandes. He went for 15 mill to Southampton and we got Guido courtesy of Lop or Sullivan. Fucking superb bit of business 

The ultimate clash of philosophies. Unsurprisingly the cheap short sighted one won out.

So we shouldn't always let the manager have his way it's a flawed system isn't it, Potter obviously doesn't like wingers and he could sell them all... Then he bombs out gets sacked and we employ someone who plays 4-3-3 and back on the merry go round we get. 

 

 

Yeah you can look back and pick and choose a little what worked and what didn't with the benefit of hindsight but we have a definite tendency to identify young players that go on to be good players with a big price tag, and not buying them for one reason or another at the time when they'd be really good value.

Our tendency to avoid investing in young up and coming players and instead invest in expensive players on their way down with big wages and no resale value is definitely detrimental to the club though. 

I know this isn't a view shared by many but I'd stick with Potter and let him build a young team over the course of a couple of seasons. I know we won't because Sullivan won't be able to let him get on with it without meddling and undermining all the plans. At least if it doesn't pan out brilliantly a new manager will actually be able to fund yet anther overhaul by getting good money from selling players in their mid 20s rather than having to be lumbered with a group of immovable players in their late 20s and early 30s.

[southbankbornnbred]

Fernandes does seem considerably over-valued at £50m, especially as it’s legs we need in midfield (assuming Paqueta stays and remains the more creative force).

I get that Soton fans rate him. But we shouldn’t pay that for him. He just hasn’t shown that value yet.

As a marker (and it’s only that), you could lure Konrad Laimer out of Bayern’s stiffs, plus Hayden Hackney, for around £40m - £45m combined. Then you have legs. I’m sure there are many other options, too.

[fraser]

Yup. Sullivan loses yet another game of ‘4d chess’. The old ‘one lowball bid for one player then scrabble around for anyone regardless of what the manager wants’ approach paying off handsomely again. 

Didn't the opposite happen last season, the manager didn't want Fernandes so we didn't buy him and ended up stuck with Guido and we're moaning because we shouldn't have listened to the manager as being stuck with him is stopping our business now. I don't think we should pay anything close to what they want for him, I do think we should have found this out earlier though. 

Yup, I believe the scarf who shall not be mentioned wanted Fernandes. He went for 15 mill to Southampton and we got Guido courtesy of Lop or Sullivan. Fucking superb bit of business 

The ultimate clash of philosophies. Unsurprisingly the cheap short sighted one won out.

So we shouldn't always let the manager have his way it's a flawed system isn't it, Potter obviously doesn't like wingers and he could sell them all... Then he bombs out gets sacked and we employ someone who plays 4-3-3 and back on the merry go round we get. 

[El Scorchio]

Yup. Sullivan loses yet another game of ‘4d chess’. The old ‘one lowball bid for one player then scrabble around for anyone regardless of what the manager wants’ approach paying off handsomely again. 

Didn't the opposite happen last season, the manager didn't want Fernandes so we didn't buy him and ended up stuck with Guido and we're moaning because we shouldn't have listened to the manager as being stuck with him is stopping our business now. I don't think we should pay anything close to what they want for him, I do think we should have found this out earlier though. 

Yup, I believe the scarf who shall not be mentioned wanted Fernandes. He went for 15 mill to Southampton and we got Guido courtesy of Lop or Sullivan. Fucking superb bit of business 

The ultimate clash of philosophies. Unsurprisingly the cheap short sighted one won out.

But yes we shouldn't be held to ransom over Fernandes now and just pay whatever they want. Although one 'opening bid' of 30m then just apparently walking away without any haggling suggests we really aren't serious about the player.

[fraser]

Yup. Sullivan loses yet another game of ‘4d chess’. The old ‘one lowball bid for one player then scrabble around for anyone regardless of what the manager wants’ approach paying off handsomely again. 

Didn't the opposite happen last season, the manager didn't want Fernandes so we didn't buy him and ended up stuck with Guido and we're moaning because we shouldn't have listened to the manager as being stuck with him is stopping our business now. I don't think we should pay anything close to what they want for him, I do think we should have found this out earlier though. 

[El Scorchio]

Yup. Sullivan loses yet another game of ‘4d chess’. The old ‘one lowball bid for one player then scrabble around for anyone regardless of what the manager wants’ approach paying off handsomely again. 

[Hello Mrs. Jones]

Desperation time, we are bending over, spreading our cheeks and lubing the rusty sheriff's badge

[Alan]

TBR

West Ham now keen to sign former Manchester City midfielder Pep Guardiola called ‘outstanding’

Lucas Arnold

TBR Football can exclusively reveal that West Ham United are considering a move for Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Aleix Garcia.

West Ham have recently been frustrated in their pursuit of Southampton playmaker Mateus Fernandes.

The Hammers made an approach to sign Fernandes, only to learn that Southampton want over £50m for the 21-year-old – they were almost insulted by the initial offer that arrived from east London.

That being said, West Ham are still working hard to find a new midfield talent to dovetail with Lucas Paqueta at the London Stadium – a player they will not be selling on the cheap.

And although funds are limited at the club, West Ham are showing interest in former Manchester City man Garcia, who’s currently playing his football in the Bundesliga.

Exclusive: West Ham interested in Bayer Leverkusen’s Aleix Garcia

That being said, TBR Football chief correspondent Graeme Bailey has now provided the latest on West Ham’s transfer situation before the end of August.

Initially asked if there was a chance that Paqueta could leave West Ham this summer, Bailey went on to mention the Hammers’ interest in Garcia.

Replying to the idea of Paqueta leaving, Bailey said: “They stood by him, so I don’t think there’s a massive push for him to leave – the talk of West Ham accepting £30m has been totally ruled out.

“He’s been playing the last two years— he’s not been like Pogba, he hasn’t been banned, he hasn’t spent two years on the sidelines.

“So why would they suddenly drop from £70m down to £30m? That’s nonsense – they have other options.”

And now Spanish midfielder Garcia, who left Man City to initially head to Romania in 2020, is a potential target.

Pep Guardiola hailed Garcia as an ‘outstanding’ young player many moons ago, and he rekindled his career at Girona before heading to Germany.

Bailey continued: “One option is Leverkusen’s Aleix Garcia, a player they quite like, he’s not really on anyone’s radar at the moment.

“There are other players, but West Ham need to move some out first to free up funds. They liked Jacob Ramsey, but that was never an option.

“Harvey Elliott was another target, but after Mohammed Kudus left, they only had £40m, and they spent £15/20m of that on Hermansen. Funds are very limited.

“Someone like Garcia might be available for that sort of money. James Ward-Prowse has come back into consideration, but there are players they want to move on.”

[twoleftfeet]

Kante was huge! No way he is only 5'10

Looked pretty decent from the 9 minutes youtube video I watched

[threesixty]

Seems to me the reason we are not selling any players is because they will be better than what we can afford to replace them with.
This window is a royal piss take, while all we want is a better team than last season, Sullivan and the board are playing games. They have no intention of improving us.

I fully regret renewing my season ticket, I honestly thought they wouldn't be this stupid, I know Sullivan is, but not the rest of the board, so what's going on.

if I knew we were this skint, no way would I have renewed.

 

 

We should get to see Potters “legendary” coaching skills this season then. If he can’t get what he wants in he has to train what he has. 
we have some excellent and experienced players in the squad. 
not sure why someone like Emerson can’t play CM or Kilman play CDM etc. We’ve seen how effective it can be repurposing players (arnie and Antonio from winger to striker, Newcastle took joelinton from striker to CM etc). 

If anything Potters football should be a “total football” model where we rely less on dedicated positions and more players having technical ability and fluidity in their roles. (I’m probably dreaming tbh..) 

[onsideman]

We absolutely *must* be able to get rid of Irvine, Rodriguez (who was free) and Alvarez (current international captain) if we really want to.

Emerson's exit has to be just a matter of time.

Cornet? Who knows? 

I do accept that wages will be an issue for all but Irvine

The fact that JWP has been made vice captain means that he's going nowhere unfortunately

I don't agree with Trundle... I've been hoping we'd upgrade left back/left wing back for over 2 years and it was even more obvious when we could see what an improvement AWB made on the right.... and Areola has been a "sometimes good at shot-stopping, never come for crosses, no command of his area, no communication liability" for a while

[El Scorchio]

It's because they are shit and no one wants them for anything like the price we'd ask for. We just can't sell any of them. Chickens coming home to roost from his awful transfer policy of buying average players for their maximum value before they go on the slide and aren't worth what we paid for in fee or wages, and their performance levels decline quickly and we're just stuck with them because no-one wants them and their wages are so big that they don't want to leave as they'll get nothing like it elsewhere. Look at JWP. Forest sent him back because he couldn't get into their team and we are stuck with him. Kilman we are absolutely stuck with until his contract ends in SIX years because no-one will be mental enough to take him for the money he will want. We will end up paying players to leave.

It's definitely not a case of there isn't better out there. There's plenty better out there but Sullivan refuses to or can't pay for it.