If Potter would get sacked who would you want IN to replace him?

[Barty888]

25% win percentage 

Clueless today

[9898]

Ypir wants are irrelevant, 100% it would be Dyche. 

[Pub Bigot]

Moses Ashikodi 

With or without his scissors?

[COOL HAND LUKE]

Probably someone like Domenico Tredesco... 
He's available NOW.

Well known to Kretinsky, apparently...

[Gank]

Moses Ashikodi 

[factory seconds]

Bilic, because despite not rating him as a manager I like the bloke and desperately want some reason to not slide into a bizarrely antagonistic relationship with my own club. 

[eusebiovic]

Diego Simeone - except he has a very custy, well paid job for life at Atletico.

Boy o boy would he fire a rocket up the players arses but not before giving our owner a good tolchoking whenever he fancies sticking his oar in like a complete shitcunt.

[Westside]

Given Sullivan's complete aversion to paying compensation to another club, for a currently employed manager. rather narrows the talent pool, so we would be looking at unemployed mangers (as Potter was). 

This list of free agent managers, hardly has anybody screaming "come get me."

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer ... /statistik

but Potter has done nothing so far, to make me think he can be as even as good as Moyes, in his worse season.

[Chip Shop Charlie]

Regardless of who we / I want, it's going to by Dyche isn't it. 

[southbankbornnbred]

At this point, if Potter were to be sacked, picking a new manager is somewhat futile. They couldn't really be expected to have any more success than the previous two incumbents, or the final years of the one before that. 

In fact barring a somewhat incredible 18 months, the majority of which was during the black swan of COVID, what succss have we actually had since getting back in the Premier under this ownership:

- Grant - relegated
- Allardyce - promoted...PL failure
- Bilic - Almost entirely Payet driven...ultimately failed
- Pellegrini - promised much, delivered nothing #BigClubMentality
- Moyes - 18 months of good, followed by 30 months of shite
- Lopetegui - disjointed mess, all be it better results than Potter overall
- Potter...writing feels on the wall.

All have come in, talking about how we're a big Club. None have really succeeded on balance.

In the same time, look at the successes that Brighton, Bournemouth, Palace, Fulham, Villa and many others comparable or smaller than us have had despite starting from lower positions. Smaller crowds. Lower stature. Smaller fan base.

The trail of failures is the real legacy of the idiots in charge. They've been shown time and again to be abject failures at delivering progressive Football club management. Brady is a charlatan. Sullivan is at best an old has been. 

They should be embarrassed.

And this is why "who do you want for a manager" is so futile. They can't actually succeed. It's actually the conversation that Sullivan and Brady want us to have, as it defletcs things from them if it's the 'managers' fault. 

Even today, Sullivan has briefed Ex with info about incominga, where he pointedly states "he can't do anything that the manager and Kyle don't want him to do". Instant anti-manager, passive aggressive stuff.

Sullivan out should be the sole focus of all that is left of West Ham. Club killing cսnt. 

Beautifully put, Stubbo.

[Sir Alf]

What we want is irrelevant. Sullivan will recruit another one without a set of requirements or plan. Its who is available, out of work, older if possible, must have managed in the Prem, once won something, once managed a club Sullivan thinks is big and hence has the bling factor. Alternatively if we are in the bottom 3 ( likely ) the requirement shifts the last 3 requirements above to “safe pair of hands” and “survival expert” with minimal investment required like Dyche.

[nychammer]

We’d go straight down under Di Canio, but he’d call out the board and all the issues at the club before we sank. 

I am surprised we don’t have much interest from foreign buyers (at least publicly). Everton, Leeds, Newcastle, and Bournemouth are all foreign owned and all outperforming us. And as someone else pointed out, clubs that have been promoted in the last five years have raced past us. 

apart from those that went straight back down   to be fair those few that have survived multiple seasons (Forest, Brentford, Palace, Bournemouth, Wolves) are probably ta least on a par if not in better shape than we are today. It's all down to how they ae run and the decisions at the top. 

[stubbo-admin]

At this point, if Potter were to be sacked, picking a new manager is somewhat futile. They couldn't really be expected to have any more success than the previous two incumbents, or the final years of the one before that. 

In fact barring a somewhat incredible 18 months, the majority of which was during the black swan of COVID, what succss have we actually had since getting back in the Premier under this ownership:

- Grant - relegated
- Allardyce - promoted...PL failure
- Bilic - Almost entirely Payet driven...ultimately failed
- Pellegrini - promised much, delivered nothing #BigClubMentality
- Moyes - 18 months of good, followed by 30 months of shite
- Lopetegui - disjointed mess, all be it better results than Potter overall
- Potter...writing feels on the wall.

All have come in, talking about how we're a big Club. None have really succeeded on balance.

In the same time, look at the successes that Brighton, Bournemouth, Palace, Fulham, Villa and many others comparable or smaller than us have had despite starting from lower positions. Smaller crowds. Lower stature. Smaller fan base.

The trail of failures is the real legacy of the idiots in charge. They've been shown time and again to be abject failures at delivering progressive Football club management. Brady is a charlatan. Sullivan is at best an old has been. 

They should be embarrassed.

And this is why "who do you want for a manager" is so futile. They can't actually succeed. It's actually the conversation that Sullivan and Brady want us to have, as it defletcs things from them if it's the 'managers' fault. 

Even today, Sullivan has briefed Ex with info about incominga, where he pointedly states "he can't do anything that the manager and Kyle don't want him to do". Instant anti-manager, passive aggressive stuff.

Sullivan out should be the sole focus of all that is left of West Ham. Club killing cսnt. 

[Pub Bigot]

We’d go straight down under Di Canio, but he’d call out the board and all the issues at the club before we sank. 

I am surprised we don’t have much interest from foreign buyers (at least publicly). Everton, Leeds, Newcastle, and Bournemouth are all foreign owned and all outperforming us. And as someone else pointed out, clubs that have been promoted in the last five years have raced past us. 

[Gank]

Paolo Di Canio to manage with Manuel Pellegrini assisting him on the details.

[North Bank]

25% win percentage 

Clueless today

A totally irrelevant question when you consider whose decision it is to appoint them, he's the problem not Potter

[simons]

Decent managers are like decent players linked with us. Always close but no cigar.

why could that be I wonder? 
 

[southbankbornnbred]

For that reason, picking a manager that Sullivan accepts is almost always like shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic.

 

[southbankbornnbred]

A pointless thread.

No one could work with the midfielders we have.

Potter goes and Sullivan then looks at managers out of work so no release clauses to pay. He gets A.N Other manager in and will let him struggle through till the January transfer window where he will offer him an over 30s Johnny Foreigner on loan or an over 30s injury prone British player looking for one last pay day.

The problem has never been Moyes, Lopetegui or Potter the problem has been Sullivan and the other owners who just don’t seem that bothered in fixing a very fixable problem.

The club have spent how many millions on JWP, Alvarez and Guido? 
The problem isn’t investment, it’s how badly it’s been invested by consecutive managers.

This is all true.

But we should add that the money has been badly invested by the board, as well as managers. As everybody now knows, Sullivan et al (but particularly him) have a BIG say over each deal - because he refuses to sign-off certain wages, deals etc and refuses (in effect) to work with certain agents because of his limited Del Boy preferences.

The rancid rot at West Ham comes from the top down. Poor chairman/board appoint poor managers, who sign poor players…and on it goes…any real change has to involve Sullivan’s exit. 

[Maverick180180]

I don’t know why people keep saying no manager could work with the central midfielders we have 
Yes they’re shit, but when you’ve got a manager who keeps picking the slowest two we have to start games it’s pretty obvious that there is room for improvement by simply not making this obvious error 

[goose]

A pointless thread.

No one could work with the midfielders we have.

Potter goes and Sullivan then looks at managers out of work so no release clauses to pay. He gets A.N Other manager in and will let him struggle through till the January transfer window where he will offer him an over 30s Johnny Foreigner on loan or an over 30s injury prone British player looking for one last pay day.

The problem has never been Moyes, Lopetegui or Potter the problem has been Sullivan and the other owners who just don’t seem that bothered in fixing a very fixable problem.

The club have spent how many millions on JWP, Alvarez and Guido? 
The problem isn’t investment, it’s how badly it’s been invested by consecutive managers.

[twoleftfeet]

Don’t think it really matters. Sullivan is going to undermine any single one willing to take the job by only supporting them in half measures while looking after his own interests and income first and foremost. 

 

 

Absolutely spot on. 

Moyes coped with Sullivan by bringing in centre backs who could defend, Dawson, Zouma and Coufal were proper old school defenders who put their bodies on the line unlike the pansies who played yesterday in defence. This solid brick wall meant we could grind out a win because we had Rice, Lingard, Bowen and Antonio to attack at pace.

This is the slowest team I’ve seen in my 50 years of supporting the club, it’s also the least skilful team I’ve seen in my 50 years of supporting this club.

What I wouldn’t give for a Bonds, Devonshire and Payet.

[Pub Bigot]

A pointless thread.

No one could work with the midfielders we have.

Potter goes and Sullivan then looks at managers out of work so no release clauses to pay. He gets A.N Other manager in and will let him struggle through till the January transfer window where he will offer him an over 30s Johnny Foreigner on loan or an over 30s injury prone British player looking for one last pay day.

The problem has never been Moyes, Lopetegui or Potter the problem has been Sullivan and the other owners who just don’t seem that bothered in fixing a very fixable problem.

 

 

I think you’re correct. What I don’t understand is why the club are so slow to act at its own determent, which makes me think something is off. 

it’s just come to mind, but could West Ham dropping into the Championship hurt the LLDC in anyway, or would it only impact the club?

[Massive Attack]

The problem has never been Moyes, Lopetegui or Potter the problem has been Sullivan and the other owners who just don’t seem that bothered in fixing a very fixable problem.

Pretty much. I've even got the hump with Kretinsky for dragging his heels. Ultimately though the buck stops with those in the most control and that’s still the BS Regime. Until they're gone, we will all have to continue to suffer, regardless of who is Manager.

[twoleftfeet]

A pointless thread.

No one could work with the midfielders we have.

Potter goes and Sullivan then looks at managers out of work so no release clauses to pay. He gets A.N Other manager in and will let him struggle through till the January transfer window where he will offer him an over 30s Johnny Foreigner on loan or an over 30s injury prone British player looking for one last pay day.

The problem has never been Moyes, Lopetegui or Potter the problem has been Sullivan and the other owners who just don’t seem that bothered in fixing a very fixable problem.

[goose]

Whoever is next will now be forced to play wing backs as that’s how they’ve now built the squad.

another example of mismanagement at the top of the club.

and let’s be honest, there will be a ‘next’ this season. Probably after Sullivan has let CPP hang on too long & ruin another season.