West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[XKhammer]

The team reflects the manager, zero resilience or mental toughness.
You saw what happened Saturday after going 1 down.
The only leaders we have play upfront. The defence and midfield are weak and fragile……… just like CPP.


coupled with the boards weird attitude to not sacking failed managers, it’s a recipe for disaster.

we will be bottom of the league and they’ll be claiming that we back our manager at West Ham. It’s fucking mental.

Wolves are bottom thicko 

[Massive Attack]

We usually go down at least once a decade, so you could say we are due one.

I don't think it would be a bad thing for the fans for a season or two. 

 

Alright, Terence Brown!

I get that you mean but it's still a no from me. I actually don't believe it would rid us of them. 

The mass Protests were having an effect until Covid hit and they began to buck their ideas up by spending better. If Covid never happened at the time it did luckily for them, I think they could have been pressured to leave by now. 

[Bondholder]

We usually go down at least once a decade, so you could say we are due one.

I don't think it would be a bad thing for the fans for a season or two. Better away days, less day trippers at the London Stadium, possibly better cup runs, more Saturday games, no VAR, more chance of seeing the youngsters play in the first team, we'd be a big fish in a small pond for once and Sullivan's profit in the club would shrink.

The Premier League is overhyped wank.

[goose]

The team reflects the manager, zero resilience or mental toughness.
You saw what happened Saturday after going 1 down.
The only leaders we have play upfront. The defence and midfield are weak and fragile……… just like CPP.


coupled with the boards weird attitude to not sacking failed managers, it’s a recipe for disaster.

we will be bottom of the league and they’ll be claiming that we back our manager at West Ham. It’s fucking mental.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Sullivan won't go or drop the asking price of the club if we do go down.

He'll simply change the sales pitch from "Current Premier League club" to "Club with clear and recent Premier League potential".

Any Spurs/Millwall fans work for HMRC? Perhaps they could start whispering "Tax owed - Winding Up order imminent" in a few places...

[Sir Alf]

Yep, it looks like relegation. Sullivan is the cause aided by Brady and other board members for not staging an intervention to stop Sullivan having control because even when he appointed Steidten it was not a fully fledged DOF role. It was a Tech Director and Sullivan retained veto power as evidenced by his insistemce on hiring Loppy against the wishes of Steidten, Noble and other board members, the ridiculous idea of Loppy having 3 transfers picks ( Kilman, Guido, Soler), Steidten having 3 ( Guilherme, Todibo, Fullkrug) and himself having 3 ( AWB, Foderingham, Summerville). Its not about how goid or not they were. Its no way to run a football club. No strategy, philosophy, operational plan, a half implemented DOF. The man ( Sully ) is totally incompetent but psychologically unable to take any responsibility or culpability like most narcissists / meglimaniacs

[Massive Attack]

We won't get relegated even with dopey in charge. 

[Maverick180180]

Betway are offering 25/1 to finish bottom 
they must be feeling guilty about Paqueta as that’s way more generous odds than anyone else is giving 

[Far Cough UKunt]

"It's our turn"

[Rossal]

Had £100 on at 7s months back, tipped it all summer in work. 

Thought with our start could be a good cashout best around christmas time. Surprised how nailed on it looks already. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Sullivan has borrowed against expected future income - TV rights, footfall and merchandise."

Not yet he hasn't. He's arranged a £145 million overdraft facility, for two years but not drawn down on it yet. The facility is lower than it might of been, in case of relagation this season, so it can be serviced by "parachute" payments, in the 2026/27 season. The overdraft is only secured against TV income, not other income. 


 

OK - happy to be corrected. Thanks for the info.

[Westside]

"Sullivan has borrowed against expected future income - TV rights, footfall and merchandise."

Not yet he hasn't. He's arranged a £145 million overdraft facility, for two years but not drawn down on it yet. The facility is lower than it might of been, in case of relagation this season, so it can be serviced by "parachute" payments, in the 2026/27 season. The overdraft is only secured against TV income, not other income. 

 

[Mike Oxsaw]

If we get relegated the club is more than fucked. Sullivan has borrowed against expected future income - TV rights, footfall and merchandise.

If all/any of those drop due to us falling off the top table, we probably won't have enough income to service those loan payments, and one or more could well be called in, meaning we'd need to find some way of raising capital.

Not even player sales would really help as I suspect very few of our recent purchases have been paid for up front and in full, so even if we shift a few we'll still be lumbered with their outstanding payments to their original club.

Sullivan's only real guarantee of making sure that relegation doesn't happen is to bring in the quality of player to elevate team performance and create more wins, only he can't actually do that because he's pissed what money is/was available on dross from his agent/mates.

[Keep dreaming]

Save your money, Sullivan won't pull the plug anytime soon. He's paralyzed, sitting in a corner watching Russian porn

[muskie]

That's a good call, hadn't thought of that, Potter is 2/1 favourite to be first prem manager sacked.

[northbankboy68]

You could double it with Potter gone before the 11th game.

[muskie]

I don't think you'd be wasting £100, I think we're nailed on.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Best price now is 3/1.

People are lumping on.

Might lob a ton on.

Won't announce it (on here) though as the site's prime ignoramus will shoutily claim that proves (PROVES) I want West Ham to fail.

In his pretty little head that may be so, but all it really proves in the real world is that I've got 100 quid to waste.

[muskie]

Best price now is 3/1.

People are lumping on.

[Leonard Hatred]

I said before the season started I can see us gannin doon. 
We were in relegation form most of last season and there's no reason for optimism.

[Steady]

The only blessing in disguise is that this leaves no excuses not to buy. The 5 at the back needs to be scrapped too

[Massive Attack]

The worst thing that indicates us being obvious relegation fodder, is that there isn’t any obvious change of manager we could make that will turn things around with this squad.

It looks like a disjointed mess of players that don’t believe in themselves any more than our fans do.

We've missed opportunity after opportunity to really improve and yet we double down on bad signing after bad singing. 

That's likely because the manager probably isn't in full control of the signings. Who in their right mind signs Callum Fucking Wilson?!

A wet Yes Man Gimp.

[Fauxstralian]

The positives …
Our utter shitness is obvious as early as possible (one game)
Being beaten 3-0 by the nailed on relegation favourites leaves no room for false hope
The transfer window is still open so no excuses
Potter is another day closer to the sack
Sullivan is another day closer to dying 

[the coming of gary]

Next 7 games are 5 x London derbies, plus Forest and Everton away
.

[nychammer]

The worst thing that indicates us being obvious relegation fodder, is that there isn’t any obvious change of manager we could make that will turn things around with this squad.

It looks like a disjointed mess of players that don’t believe in themselves any more than our fans do.

We've missed opportunity after opportunity to really improve and yet we double down on bad signing after bad singing. 

That's likely because the manager probably isn't in full control of the signings. Who in their right mind signs Callum Fucking Wilson?!