If Potter would get sacked who would you want IN to replace him?

[Barty888]

25% win percentage 

Clueless today

[Cerveza Para Mi]

In my humble these wish lists aren't much help because it's not who you and I want who will get the gig but who the man signing the cheques wants. And I suspect that man is Sean Dyche.

Which is why, imo, it's pointless changing the manager for the, what is it, 8th time since the dwarf took over, because whoever he appoints at the end of the day it will still be him calling the shots.  Until we get a proper director of football and leave whoever that is to make all the key footballing decisions, in stead of allowing a bloke running the gaff like he's a spotty 15 year old playing Football Manager, we will. continue to be left behind by our more progressive competitiors.

[Sir Alf]

its been a while since my last diatribe and my therapist has told me to keep up the verbal diarreah hence apologies to you all and especially those who overcome their urge to top themselves rather than read through all of the below

So anyway…. Craig Bellamy is a decent shout ( although dont know his tactics / philosophy). . But IMO Mourinho and Nuno’s footballing philosophy and tactics are from the same stable as Moyes, low possession, low block and fast counters and good set pieces. Not having the ball much with 2 banks of 4 etc was only tolerated with Moyes while we were on an unexpected, upward trajectory during the COVID season and half of the next one. We got into Europe via the league twice. The Euro conf win season gave us Europe again despite dreadful league form. By that point fand no longer tolerated “Alamo style defending” and not having the ball but being in Europe ( after 40 years ) it was still tolerated.   Nuno had a similar experience at Wolves. 2 good finishes in the league with low possession before trying to transition to a more entertaining style which saw Wolves struggle and him sacked in season 3 or 4. I suspect it would have gone the same way with Forest if they had a more stable owner. Fine this season with Euro football but soon as league form started slipping, fans tolerance ends and unrest before he gets binned.

 Its the same with Mourinho. He was very very successful at clubs with lots of money in playing that same low possession, counter attacking game when it was a new tactical approach . The exception was at Chelsea imho, where he had so much money to spend ( relative to other teams and before FFP and PSR ) that his tactics were not as limiting. The quality of pllayers they had meant they could still have a good share of the possession but ultimately the foundations were solid defending and countering. Makele was key to that but they had so many exceptional players.  Mourinho would get top half with most teams I suspect but the style or “entertainment value” is usually the problem if the club is not winning things is the point. 

Potter is sort of the inverse to these managers. Possession for possession’s sake. Not enough end product. Why? You need the technical, athletic players to make it work. We havent had them and hence it becomes “crab football”.  Recruitment is key to clubs being successful with this possession style especially if, like us, they dont have the resources of the rich 6. And success is then just Euro qualification and possiblt a domestic cup. CL and Prem Lge winning is largely out of bounds.   

But with our owners and execs ( BS ) we have no strategy or long term plan for the football side of the business. No operational plan or adequate infrastructure ( DOF, scouting, analysis etc) to execute the plan.  Potter’s up against it as all managers or coaches at West Ham will be. Moyes success was an unintended, albeit welcome accident.  

The current protests are what matters now. The manager’s position is secondary, a symptom of Sullivan and Brady’s running of the club. Potter will be axed quite rightly, if improvement is not seen or we remain in the relegation discussions but ultimately any replacement is doomed to fail in the directionless environment Sullivan operates where a small group of confidents including his sons and agents make short term, reactive calls on footballing matters.  As Hammers Utd are proposing, if he wont sell up then he and Brady need to handover the running of the club to people who have proper know how, experience, expertise and a track record of success. No more of half arse, implementing a DOF role which imo was “designed to fail” by Sullivam because he always wanted to retain full control. I mean it was obvious by virtue of his insistence of retaining veto power over any decision.  

 

[Rossal]

Mad decision. Nuno done a great job there. 

They've gone near the PSR line but with Europa league revenue they should be ok i think?  They also sell alot of players to Lyon who have similar owners so get around PSR that way. Got the Elanga sale also. Dodgy as fuck but look at the nutjob owners track record hardly surprising. 

There's just no way they can keep spending 85% of their day-to-day revenues on wages, though. Because the rest of their operations will cost more than 15%. So at some point they're heading for a big breach - unless they sell But they can't sell too many at a loss, and that seems to be behind some of the rows. Not that Nuno is some sort of accountant, but as a manager he just wanted some certainty (if they get into trouble, they might have to offload Chris Wood, for example, which any Forest manager would want to avoid). Which nobody is going to get with that chairman.

Their revenues will go up though with the Europa.  They do sell, mainly to Lyon for inflated prices who the ownership structure of Forest also have a stake in.  The only team more bent than them when it comes to PSR and transfers is Chelsea. 

But i must admit their transfer incomings last few seasons has been incredibly impressive. 

[Eerie Decent]

Everyone was saying what a mad decision it was a few seasons ago for Bournemouth to get rid of Gary O'Neil to get in some Spanish nomark. Look how that turned out.

I love the ambition, fair play to their owner, he doesn't fuck about, like our pair of cunts.

[southbankbornnbred]

It seems they've had other rows, too. Including the chairman suggesting that certain players should start - basically trying to pick the team.

He seems like a bit of a maniac. But it is entertaining.

[southbankbornnbred]

Mad decision. Nuno done a great job there. 

They've gone near the PSR line but with Europa league revenue they should be ok i think?  They also sell alot of players to Lyon who have similar owners so get around PSR that way. Got the Elanga sale also. Dodgy as fuck but look at the nutjob owners track record hardly surprising. 

There's just no way they can keep spending 85% of their day-to-day revenues on wages, though. Because the rest of their operations will cost more than 15%. So at some point they're heading for a big breach - unless they sell But they can't sell too many at a loss, and that seems to be behind some of the rows. Not that Nuno is some sort of accountant, but as a manager he just wanted some certainty (if they get into trouble, they might have to offload Chris Wood, for example, which any Forest manager would want to avoid). Which nobody is going to get with that chairman.

[Rossal]

Mad decision. Nuno done a great job there. 

They've gone near the PSR line but with Europa league revenue they should be ok i think?  They also sell alot of players to Lyon who have similar owners so get around PSR that way. Got the Elanga sale also. Dodgy as fuck but look at the nutjob owners track record hardly surprising. 

[southbankbornnbred]

Heard from a football journo mate that one of the key reasons for the rows between Nuno and the Roussos-a-like is the fact that Nuno knows he would have to offload a LOT of players next summer. He has been trying to get Marinakis to stop buying quite so many players on whom they will lose a lot of money. But like a pie and mash version of David Sullivan on HGH, the boss keeps turning up at the training ground with another Mauro Zarate in tow. Probably smuggled into the UK on one of his ships.

[southbankbornnbred]

Forest ditching Nuno is a bit nuts. First manager to get them into Europe since Frank Clark.

That obese Demis Roussos fella sounds like a good chairman, because he's spending money like water. But they're spending 85% of their operational revenues on wages - which means they're a PSR nightmare waiting to happen. You can only run ahead of that for a few seasons.

Having about 3,000 bang average players isn't helping them. Although he might get away with categorising the more immobile players as cargo containers, which would be capital spending under PSR. Maybe that's what Man City should have done?

[Mad Dog]

Well nuno is available now.

Not that im suggesting he takes potter's job

[Fauxstralian]

Fabrizio Romano reckons ‘three candidates including Ange Postecogolou’ under consideration for Forest
Was reading Fat Ange had turned down jobs in Turkey & Germany in recent days

[Massive Attack]

Now he's got his dream job, there's no way he's leaving that in a hurry or job sharing between the two. For another time maybe but definitely can't see that happening now.

[Alfs]

My pick would be Craig Bellamy.  He's doing a great job with Wales and wears his passion on his sleeve.  Also, I could see him flooring Sully with a swift uppercut before kicking Karen in the cսnt, within the first two weeks of his tenure.

[Massive Attack]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... -marinakis

Mourinho best not go there because our Clowns have been caught asleep inside our Circus Tent.

[Steady]

Nuno available, has just left Forest 

[Ceasar]

Jose MOURINHO!!!!

[iphammer]

Stuart pearce 
Jose Mourinho
Jimmy Thelin  

[Sydney_Iron]

I world take Mourinho, bit of a loose cannon these days and you just know at some point he will fall put with the board and get sacked, but if there is a manager available who could get a tune out of our lot and provide passion (and entertainment) along the way, maybe not on the pitch, but off it.......

Get him in

[threesixty]

I would love to see Jose managing us away at spurs and beating them 3-0 … kudus subbed off with no shots on target hahaha

Proper revenge match! 

[Barty888]

Appoint morinho NOW.  Say what you say about his football but the matches would be better than what BFS and Moyes served up for sure and we would have a decent win percentage. IT'S A NO BRAINER!

[Mike Oxsaw]

If Sullivan dumps Potter for Mourinho, it might suggest he's got a proper pair of working Alberts after all.

Can't see him standing for being told to fuck the fuck off out of the footballing side of things for long though,

[wils]

Time will tell.

I think he likes the idea of foreign...but when it comes to "survival" or "save us"...he goes for the Moyes/Allardyce type. Suspect he'd want a guy for just this season and then re-evaluate...reckon Cooper would be so insufficiently in demand he'd take a deal like that, and Sullivan is known to be a Cooper admirer.

 

 

Mourinho would save us. Ticks no boxes for the dwarf. But we tick a lot boxes for Jose it seems:

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

Sully ain't shy about hiring foreigners. Or firing them either. British managers have been given far longer in charge and in all cases too much longer, I'd say. Moyes & Allardyce because of the deathly dull football and Potter because, well, he was utter shit on every level last season and he was never going to improve.

[stubbo-admin]

Time will tell.

I think he likes the idea of foreign...but when it comes to "survival" or "save us"...he goes for the Moyes/Allardyce type. Suspect he'd want a guy for just this season and then re-evaluate...reckon Cooper would be so insufficiently in demand he'd take a deal like that, and Sullivan is known to be a Cooper admirer.

[threesixty]

Sullivan would never dare employ mourinho as he’d happily show him up in public mercilessly and with zero shits given. 

Yeah you'll probably right. Would Southgate take it? He's be a disaster. 

We have to hope maybe Man Utd get to Southgate first

Sullivan will 100% get Cooper. He ticks EVERY Sullivan box.

 

 

I actually think he likes the idea of a foreign manager tbh. I dont think he actually rates British managers at all. I dont think he wanted Potter, got Moyes out of desperation and reluctantly employed him again, Went for Pelligrini etc, Lopetegui, wanted Benetiz etc. rather than a Rodger’s or Howe.