No to Digital ID

[riosleftsock]

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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
 

[XKhammer]

We ain't China ffs!
Don't understand stand the paranoia about this

[Big head]

I remember years back, I had a debate with the legend that is JOHNSON about how we will eventually end up having an SCS system like China.

The introduction of digital Id is the first step, that digital Id will then have links to your bank accounts and replace Debit Cards, you will use this card to purchase goods - should you break the law for example, your SCS score will be impacted which could stop you from buying immaterial things like a bottle of water or food.

The above is going on as we speak in China. Won't be long before it's introduced here unless this current Government are overthrown or there's riots.

 

[zebthecat]

This will do absolutely nothing to stop people working illegally as they are outside the system in the first place.
This was one of Tony Blair's pet projects way back and has resurfaced for the new tech age.
Conspicuously there has been no mention of costs and patently no plan whatsoever as it stands.
It is just a back of a fag packet idea floated to solve a problem it cannot. It was mainly something to float to make a splash in the 24 hour news cycle.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Mu brother in law was head of IT for a top 10 FTSE company. He says they have done none of the analysis required. 

Of course they haven't done the required analysis - that will clearly point to a set of requirements that will not support the outcome they want (never mind what the country needs, what they want is all that counts).

They will, however, loudly proclaim that they are "taking action against immigration".

You can also bet none, if any, of the immigrants deported this last year came here on boats - recently or otherwise. Most will be those already known about living here on visa overstays.

[BRANDED]

Mu brother in law was head of IT for a top 10 FTSE company. He says they have done none of the analysis required. 

[WHU(Exeter)]

The Government/Public Bodies + IT = No thanks.

[dealcanvey]

Know very little about this but if there are as predicted up to/over 1 million illegal immigrants in the UK, how do we find out who they are?

I get this wont stop the boats or them coming but what about the ones that are already here illegally that remain undetected?

[OK_Guy]

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – "Do not introduce Digital ID cards"Government responded:

We will introduce a digital ID within this Parliament to help tackle illegal migration, make accessing government services easier, and enable wider efficiencies. We will consult on details soon.

The Government has announced plans to introduce a digital ID system which is fit for the needs of modern Britain. We are committed to making people’s everyday lives easier and more secure, to putting more control in their hands (including over their own data), and to driving growth through harnessing digital technology. We also want to learn from countries which have digitised government services for the benefit of their citizens, in line with our manifesto commitment to modernise government.Currently, when UK citizens and residents use public services, start a new job, or, for example, buy alcohol, they often need to present an assortment of physical documents to prove who they are or things about themselves. This is both bureaucratic for the individual and creates space for abuse and fraud. This includes known issues with illegal working and modern slavery, while the fragmented approach and multiple systems across Government make it difficult for people to access vital services. Further, there are too many people who are excluded, like the 1 in 10 UK adults who don’t have a physical photo ID, so can struggle to prove who they are and access the products and services they are entitled to.

To tackle these interlinked issues, we will introduce a new national digital ID. This is not a card but a new digital identity that will be available for free to all UK citizens and legal residents aged 16 and over (although we will consider through consultation if this should be age 13 and over). Over time, people will be able to use it to seamlessly access a range of public and private sector services, with the aim of making our everyday lives easier and more secure. It will not be compulsory to obtain a digital ID but it will be mandatory for some applications.For example, the new digital ID will build on GOV.UK One Login and the GOV.UK Wallet to drive the transformation of public services. Over time, this system will allow people to access government services – such as benefits or tax records – without needing to remember multiple logins or provide physical documents. It will significantly streamline interactions with the state, saving time and reducing frustrating paperwork, while also helping to create opportunities for more joined up government services. International examples show how beneficial this can be. For instance, Estonia’s system reportedly saves each citizen hours every month by streamlining unnecessary bureaucracy, and the move to becoming a digital society has saved taxpayer money.

By the end of this Parliament, employers will have to check the new digital ID when conducting a ‘right to work’ check. This will help combat criminal gangs who promise access to the UK labour market in order to profit from dangerous and illegal channel crossings. It will create a fairer system between UK citizens and legal residents, crack down on forged documents, and streamline the process for employers, driving up compliance. Further, it will create business information showing where employers are conducting checks, so driving more targeted action against non-compliant employers.

For clarity, it will not be a criminal offence to not hold a digital ID and police will not be able to demand to see a digital ID as part of a “stop and search.”

Privacy and security will also be central to the digital ID programme. We will follow data protection law and best practice in creating a system which people can rightly put their trust in. People in the UK already know and trust digital credentials held in their phone wallets to use in their everyday lives, from paying for things to storing boarding passes. The new system will be built on similar technology and be your boarding pass to government. Digitally checkable digital credentials are more secure than physical documents which can be lost, copied or forged, and often mean sharing more information than just what is necessary for a given transaction.
The new system will be designed in accordance with the highest security standards to protect against a comprehensive range of threats, including cyber-attacks.

We will launch a public consultation in the coming weeks and work closely with employers, trade unions, civil society groups and other stakeholders, to co-design the scheme and ensure it is as secure and inclusive as possible. Following consultation, we will seek to bring forward legislation to underpin this system.

Department for Science, Innovation and Technology

[THUNDERCLINT]

My expectation is that once this ludicrously delayed budget appears in late November & lands like a turd in the punchbowl that Andy Burnham will make his move to return to Parliament & oust Starmer
See where we are next year but if they don’t get any traction we are on our way to Farage in government & civil war like in America when Trump announces he is doing a third term

 

 

Civil War in Amercia, I'll look forward to seeing that play out.

The Left: "We declare war."

The Right: 200 million AR15 rifles locked and loaded in one synchronized movement.

The Left: After evacuating their bowels in unison, "please don't hurt us, you're not allowed to actually fight back, bullets are racist, homophonic, misogynist phallic symbols of the patriarchy, let's have a non contact pillow fight using sustainable, ethically farmed, fairtrade soy based synthetic feathers. "

[Lee Trundle]

My expectation is that once this ludicrously delayed budget appears in late November & lands like a turd in the punchbowl that Andy Burnham will make his move to return to Parliament & oust Starmer
See where we are next year but if they don’t get any traction we are on our way to Farage in government & civil war like in America when Trump announces he is doing a third term

Who do you obsess over the most, do you think?

Trump?
Farage?
Or the Royal Family?

[only1billybonds]

This ID bollox highlights Starmers complete contempt for the public. Does he really think the we believe this scheme has anything to do with stopping illegal immigration? He knows its a hot topic so he is using it to Polish this turd of an idea in the hope that we all say, 'great,bring the ID's in and no more small boats'.

Blair tried to introduce the ID cards years ago when small boats were unheard of, now we're supposed to swallow that they are the answer to this plague?


Fuck off!!

[Fauxstralian]

My expectation is that once this ludicrously delayed budget appears in late November & lands like a turd in the punchbowl that Andy Burnham will make his move to return to Parliament & oust Starmer
See where we are next year but if they don’t get any traction we are on our way to Farage in government & civil war like in America when Trump announces he is doing a third term

[Russ of the BML]

Does amuse me that after 14 years of abysmal mismanagement of migration by the Tories everyone (Tories) reckon Labour should have stopped it in just over a year
Have they done enough & are they doing enough? NO
But as Farage says the bomb of people lining up to gain right to remain was down to the incompetent clown Boris Johnson

 

 

That's fair enough. But nobody is not blaming the Tories and nobody expects Labour to sort it within a year. But one thing I didn't expect under Labour is legal and illegal immigration to increase, which it has. So as you rightly say, have they done enough? No. Clearly not. And that's the problem.

And the question is why? And I will tell you why, because it is a party that is now so Woke, Starmer is scared to tackle immigration properly through fear of upsetting all the Woke MP's in Labour and all the Woke supporters they have. And then to come out with this Digital ID bollocks when boat after boat is still landing day after day. It's ludicrous.

And as I said, Starmer signed his own death warrant with this.... He was already the most unpopular PM in history and now he has cemented that. Under Labour Reform are making the biggest strides in their history. And Labour and Starmer can bleat about people voting for Reform being racist, but that won't wash anymore. Do your fucking job and people won't vote reform. Don't blame them, blame yourself. 

[OK_Guy]

2.5million+ have signed Petition, that's some going over 5-days & they're still signing.

[Lee Trundle]

Have they done enough & are they doing enough? NO
 

That's what people are moaning about, you idiot.

Try to focus on what's happening now, rather than diversion tactics.

[Fauxstralian]

Does amuse me that after 14 years of abysmal mismanagement of migration by the Tories everyone (Tories) reckon Labour should have stopped it in just over a year
Have they done enough & are they doing enough? NO
But as Farage says the bomb of people lining up to gain right to remain was down to the incompetent clown Boris Johnson

[Russ of the BML]

So your details are here and every social media platform known to man ,they probably even know what time you wank and on what site. You have bank cards with your money info all over the world and your phone is spewing your information everywhere. You already have a passport ,driving licence and medical record and you NI number is everywhere . You allow amazon ,eBay , porn hub,Spotify, paypal to have your details and access to your accounts. Yet this is invasion of privacy , you gave upto the billionaires but not the government so very bizarre when you want to make it difficult for people to come here and work illegally. Not sure what you actually want . Even your car monitors your travel these days and where you going through maps or sat nav. Try getting in a city centre bar without id then have to give up your biometrics as they take pics . We are already well past this. Unless your hiding something.

Your missing the point. This isn't tacking the issue of illegal immigration and illegal workers. It just slaps further controls on legal people. Labour should do their fucking job and stop mass legal and illegal immigration like they promised they would. This is simply a veiled form of control. I said the other day, it doesn't make a difference  to me if i have one or not - But i will not conform and agree to one simply because it is not the solution to the problem at hand. Do your fucking job or fuck off and let someone else do it.

[Russ of the BML]

The question is simple: If a Passport, Visa, NI Number, Driving Licence, Birth Certificate.... whatever it may be, are ignored by illegals and they still come in and work - Why would a digital ID work?  

It wouldn't. And any Labour twat that has been asked the same question recently has simply failed to come up with an answer. Watching Starmer and other cronies squirm when asked this over the weekend was painful. Charlie Staight almost made Lisa Nandy cry yesterday when he just never let her off the hook and kept asking "Why will this work when all the other ID's don't". Starmer almost blew a gasket and shut down when one kept journo kept repeating "This won't work and you know it won't"

People want illegal immigration stopped and legal immigration controlled - Yet Labour's answer is to slap ANOTHER form if ID on legal people. That anyone with a braincell knows won't make a difference. 

Talk about dodge the issue. Starmer signed his own death warrant when he came up with this twaddle. 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

So your details are here and every social media platform known to man ,they probably even know what time you wank and on what site. You have bank cards with your money info all over the world and your phone is spewing your information everywhere. You already have a passport ,driving licence and medical record and you NI number is everywhere . You allow amazon ,eBay , porn hub,Spotify, paypal to have your details and access to your accounts. Yet this is invasion of privacy , you gave upto the billionaires but not the government so very bizarre when you want to make it difficult for people to come here and work illegally. Not sure what you actually want . Even your car monitors your travel these days and where you going through maps or sat nav. Try getting in a city centre bar without id then have to give up your biometrics as they take pics . We are already well past this. Unless your hiding something.

What's porn hub ?

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

look at ginger bollocks agreeing with every dumb cսnt that agrees with his thick, totalitarian mindset

gingernuts

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

So your details are here and every social media platform known to man ,they probably even know what time you wank and on what site. You have bank cards with your money info all over the world and your phone is spewing your information everywhere. You already have a passport ,driving licence and medical record and you NI number is everywhere . You allow amazon ,eBay , porn hub,Spotify, paypal to have your details and access to your accounts. Yet this is invasion of privacy , you gave upto the billionaires but not the government so very bizarre when you want to make it difficult for people to come here and work illegally. Not sure what you actually want . Even your car monitors your travel these days and where you going through maps or sat nav. Try getting in a city centre bar without id then have to give up your biometrics as they take pics . We are already well past this. Unless your hiding something.

Exactly.
Ive always been used to ID being an  ex squaddie...but that was then.....NOT ANYMORE.

I hate what my Country has become
These evil cunts mission is to control your life in every way.

THEY ALREADY HAVE ALL THEY NEED ON INDIGENOUS BRITS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS .

THIS IS ALL ABOUT MASS CONTROL .

[Nurse Ratched]

Sometimes you have to take one for the team, once digital IDs are mandatory you will lose a lot more liberty than signing this

Pretty sure gank was cracking a joke

[riosleftsock]

Sometimes you have to take one for the team, once digital IDs are mandatory you will lose a lot more liberty than signing this

[XKhammer]

look at ginger bollocks agreeing with every dumb cսnt that agrees with his thick, totalitarian mindset

How's the herpes Mr Hermit?

[Takashi Miike]

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