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crystal falace
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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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On The Ball
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I'm at the Cowboys-Washington game now. Deeply, deeply irritating. Although the availability of beer makes me think there may actually be a God.
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southbankbornnbred
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Feck me! Just when you think the Jets can’t possibly plunge to new depths, they find a way to do it!
Today was possibly the worst all-round performance I’ve seen from them.
They finally benched Fields at half-time. He’s gone. There is little hope for that kid. He’s in his fifth year and getting worse by the week. He’s got the yips and can’t throw the ball. He can’t read defensive patterns, either. He’s completely busted.
But the rest of the team can’t tie their shoelaces.
Glenn looks a broken man at times. Already - after seven games of his first season. All the bravado and chutzpah of his appointment has gone and he’s learning, harshly, how hard it is to be a head coach.
I like Glenn. And we need to show patience. But this is currently the worst Jets team of all time. Which is quite an achievement. At some point in a complete “rebuild” (new HC, new GM, new OC, new D.C., new scouts, new position coaches) you have to exhibit some progress. Show a glimmer of hope. Right now, there is nothing. At all.
Genuinely don’t know where their first win will come from.
Today was possibly the worst all-round performance I’ve seen from them.
They finally benched Fields at half-time. He’s gone. There is little hope for that kid. He’s in his fifth year and getting worse by the week. He’s got the yips and can’t throw the ball. He can’t read defensive patterns, either. He’s completely busted.
But the rest of the team can’t tie their shoelaces.
Glenn looks a broken man at times. Already - after seven games of his first season. All the bravado and chutzpah of his appointment has gone and he’s learning, harshly, how hard it is to be a head coach.
I like Glenn. And we need to show patience. But this is currently the worst Jets team of all time. Which is quite an achievement. At some point in a complete “rebuild” (new HC, new GM, new OC, new D.C., new scouts, new position coaches) you have to exhibit some progress. Show a glimmer of hope. Right now, there is nothing. At all.
Genuinely don’t know where their first win will come from.
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Takashi Miike
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southbankbornnbred
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RBshorty wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025, 18:18 You want injuries. The 49ers are the ones with the Walking Dead. Most of their 1st team are out. And they are still getting it done. KC are the worry at the top end of the pyramid. No one injured. And they are running silent. Like a Nuke Sub. Vikes beat Philly. Then it’s meltdown in the city of Brotherly Love. Won’t be many NFL fans complaining about that.
I admire your positivity, Shorty, but I'm long past the point where I think the Jets' draft moves help the franchise.
Don't get me wrong, we've actually drafted OK - and well at times - in the last few years. Garrett, Sauce, Membou etc. We've done OK at picking good players with high picks in more recent years. Could have been better, but certainly could have been worse.
The problem is what we do with those players once we start training. It's a franchise that under-utilises its assets in a big way. And that's all because the shit trickles down from the ownership. Poor owners appoint poor GM's and (often) poor (or, more specifically, inexperienced) HCs, who appoint poor (or inexperienced) coaches, who underperform when coaching players, who then fail to maximise their potential or gel as a unit.
I have a lot of time for Todd Bowles and Rob Saleh, for example. But at the time they were appointed as HCs they were not ready to do the job. I like Aaron Glenn - he's a proper Jets fan and a smart man. Maybe he'll buck the trend. But the early signs are not great.
The lack of a coherent, highly professional and working Owner/GM/coaching culture at the Jets has long been the franchise's downfall. Like West Ham, it's run like a circus by the ownership and poor, cheap and ill-informed decision-making by Woody Johnson and his board constantly hinder the Jets. As with West Ham, it's not until he goes that the culture will change. 15 years without a play-off appearance, in a league obsessed with parity, is not a coincidence. It's indicative of woeful decision-making at the top.
For David Sullivan read Woody Johnson.
Don't get me wrong, we've actually drafted OK - and well at times - in the last few years. Garrett, Sauce, Membou etc. We've done OK at picking good players with high picks in more recent years. Could have been better, but certainly could have been worse.
The problem is what we do with those players once we start training. It's a franchise that under-utilises its assets in a big way. And that's all because the shit trickles down from the ownership. Poor owners appoint poor GM's and (often) poor (or, more specifically, inexperienced) HCs, who appoint poor (or inexperienced) coaches, who underperform when coaching players, who then fail to maximise their potential or gel as a unit.
I have a lot of time for Todd Bowles and Rob Saleh, for example. But at the time they were appointed as HCs they were not ready to do the job. I like Aaron Glenn - he's a proper Jets fan and a smart man. Maybe he'll buck the trend. But the early signs are not great.
The lack of a coherent, highly professional and working Owner/GM/coaching culture at the Jets has long been the franchise's downfall. Like West Ham, it's run like a circus by the ownership and poor, cheap and ill-informed decision-making by Woody Johnson and his board constantly hinder the Jets. As with West Ham, it's not until he goes that the culture will change. 15 years without a play-off appearance, in a league obsessed with parity, is not a coincidence. It's indicative of woeful decision-making at the top.
For David Sullivan read Woody Johnson.
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Takashi Miike
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You want injuries. The 49ers are the ones with the Walking Dead. Most of their 1st team are out. And they are still getting it done. KC are the worry at the top end of the pyramid. No one injured. And they are running silent. Like a Nuke Sub. Vikes beat Philly. Then it’s meltdown in the city of Brotherly Love. Won’t be many NFL fans complaining about that.
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southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025, 17:46 Do we have to play again this season?!
Resurgent Panthers up next. Then Flacco’s resurgent Bengals.
We could be 0-8 going into bye week. Which will now be dubbed “bye, bye” week.
You get to zip-8. You can start looking forward too the draft south. Try watching some of the big college games. See who’s getting picked high. And who you like.? It was the only shoot of hope I got last season. Also check out the coaches and see if ownership start doing something right. Still don’t think you finish last. Saints and Titan’s are worse all round.
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Lee Trundle
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Far Cough UKunt
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Vikings have a horrific injury list, not good when your next game is the Eagles.
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southbankbornnbred
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Do we have to play again this season?!
Resurgent Panthers up next. Then Flacco’s resurgent Bengals.
We could be 0-8 going into bye week. Which will now be dubbed “bye, bye” week.
Resurgent Panthers up next. Then Flacco’s resurgent Bengals.
We could be 0-8 going into bye week. Which will now be dubbed “bye, bye” week.
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southbankbornnbred
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Fields is a busted flush, btw.
Was prepared to give him a chance. Somewhere in there was a talented youngster. But whatever he had, it’s long gone. Watched all games he’s played, and his mechanics, and ability to read the field, are poor.
He wants to throw on the move constantly. So he often throws off balance, off the wrong foot, holds onto the ball for far too long etc. His checkdowns are atrocious. Once his primary receiver (usually Wilson) is double-covered, he can’t read the field quickly enough to recover, then he panics, takes off, runs into a clogged up area and is forced to try a risky throw.
Repeat ad nauseum. Part of it is not knowing the system well enough.
But much of it is that he’s just poor.
Was prepared to give him a chance. Somewhere in there was a talented youngster. But whatever he had, it’s long gone. Watched all games he’s played, and his mechanics, and ability to read the field, are poor.
He wants to throw on the move constantly. So he often throws off balance, off the wrong foot, holds onto the ball for far too long etc. His checkdowns are atrocious. Once his primary receiver (usually Wilson) is double-covered, he can’t read the field quickly enough to recover, then he panics, takes off, runs into a clogged up area and is forced to try a risky throw.
Repeat ad nauseum. Part of it is not knowing the system well enough.
But much of it is that he’s just poor.
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Arf!
It was a very tough watch. Both defences played well but, also, both QBs were terrible which not make mush of a spectacle. Justin Fields is not the answer; I can't remember him even trying to move out the pocket until the first defender touched him and it is too late at that point.
The faked punt was fun though - nothing wrong with the Jets special teams either. Your punter looks great and pinned the Broncos back nicely.
It was a very tough watch. Both defences played well but, also, both QBs were terrible which not make mush of a spectacle. Justin Fields is not the answer; I can't remember him even trying to move out the pocket until the first defender touched him and it is too late at that point.
The faked punt was fun though - nothing wrong with the Jets special teams either. Your punter looks great and pinned the Broncos back nicely.
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southbankbornnbred
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Was at the game with a Yank friend and, as we were leaving, we heard one New Yorker say: “That game was the worst thing we’ve done to the British since 1776.”
Fucking love West Ham and Jets humour.
Fucking love West Ham and Jets humour.
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southbankbornnbred
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For context, -10 passing yards is the worst performance in Jets history. And the worst by any NFL aside for 27 years.
Things are not getting better. Yet.
Patience is key, of course. But you have to show you’re moving in the right direction. Today, literally and physically, the passing game went backwards.
Things are not getting better. Yet.
Patience is key, of course. But you have to show you’re moving in the right direction. Today, literally and physically, the passing game went backwards.
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southbankbornnbred
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Defensively, we were better than in past weeks. But offensively, that was among the worst performances I’ve seen. And I watched teams coached by Kotite and Gase!
Astonishingly, we finished with -10 passing yards. Because Fields was sacked 9 times for big losses.
That’s pretty abysmal by any measurement.
I like Glenn, and am prepared to give him time (multiple seasons). But he’s got to start showing some improvement by the end of this season. Things are moving in the other direction right now.
Astonishingly, we finished with -10 passing yards. Because Fields was sacked 9 times for big losses.
That’s pretty abysmal by any measurement.
I like Glenn, and am prepared to give him time (multiple seasons). But he’s got to start showing some improvement by the end of this season. Things are moving in the other direction right now.
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I thought the Jets played especially in the 2nd half and were a bit unlucky to lose. They put the Broncos QB under a lot of pressure throughout the game.
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southbankbornnbred
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Barely have the words to explain what I’ve just seen from the Jets.
So poor.
Breece Hall summed it up best recently, when he said: “Teams shoot themselves in the foot, then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head.”
Did it yet again today.
We’ve invested in Aaron Glenn for multiple seasons. And we do have to stick with him and show some patience. Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 in his first season in Dallas (although, it was before the salary cap and when the Cowboys bombed on purpose). So patience is key.
But we are getting worse, not better, right now.
At least we didn’t give up many points this week.
So poor.
Breece Hall summed it up best recently, when he said: “Teams shoot themselves in the foot, then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head.”
Did it yet again today.
We’ve invested in Aaron Glenn for multiple seasons. And we do have to stick with him and show some patience. Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 in his first season in Dallas (although, it was before the salary cap and when the Cowboys bombed on purpose). So patience is key.
But we are getting worse, not better, right now.
At least we didn’t give up many points this week.