Leeds vs West Ham | PL | 24.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

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Well after the disaster of Monday at Brentford, the thought of more West Ham in the same week is enough to put anyone in a bad mood.  The 'pros' always talk about wanting to get bad games out of their system quickly, and this gives them that opportunity, but also sets up a horrible start to the weekend for the rest of us!

Teamwise, Mavro is out with what looked a nasty hamstring injury.  Fullkrug is still broken, and Earthy remains unfit.  Otherwise the rest of the squad are fit from a health perspective....maybe less so from a 'wear the shirt' angle.

Nuno's logic for his inverted fullbacks it's been revealed was to try and counter Brentford's inverted wing thread, by showing them onto the defender's strong foot...the less said about the success of that the better.  And it struggles to explain Irving and Soucek in the pivot, beyond maybe 'they're both tall'.

Anyway, hopefully that's the last of the experimentation and we can revert to what at least appears a bit less shit.  Wouldn't surprise me to see him go with a back 5 in this game though (and what I'll assume for my predicted XI).

Predicted lineup:

Areola

Wan Bissaka    Kilman     Igor   
Summerville                                            Diouf
Magassa Fernandes Paqueta

Soucek

Bowen

Subs: Hermansen, KWP, Todibo, Scarles, Potts, Irving, Guilherme, Wilson, Marshall

The squad is now a real quandary.  We don't have a good CB pairing...Todibo looks hopeless, Kilman and Igor both left footed, with one an unknown and the other weak as the senior CB.  Mavro was signed to be 3rd choice, but he's suddenly the most important man in the back line...a problem in itself.

Summerville is a must have...the only true pace in the side so leaving him out can't be compromised.  If 3 at the back and 3-4-3 was viable, not a problem....but once again we don't have a midfield with a logical two-man pairing.  Add in that Bwoen and Soucek are the only goals, and Paqueta is the only real 'vision' and we are in a bad place with a squad that don't work in combination.

So will he gamble on a bad back two, an untried midfield pair, or leave out one of the 'key' players in Soucek, Bowen, Paqueta, and Summerville.

And as for playing a real striker....

Predicted Score: Leeds 2 : 0 West Ham.

Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.

COYI!

[zico]

Nuno did an amazing job at Wolves & Forest.
Was no worse than any other manager at Spurs around that time, and did the double in Saudi.

Clearly not a fraud or as bad as you lot are saying.
Even Loppy had a good record before joining us, and Potter never looked as bad as he did with us.

No excuse for the shambles of the  last 2 games, but there are clearly deep underlying problems at the club due to Sullivan's long term incompetence that has finally cought up with him.

 

 

Yes you are right but what sort of manager plays a left back at right back and a right back at left back not once but twice and it doesn't work on either occasion?

[Massive Attack]

Baffling selection from the manager.

Team looks like it has no belief in the tactics, the structure, the positions some of them are being asked to play or each other.

We're much worse than we were a month ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They talk about players "buying in to a managers tactics" in making it work and Nuno has given them fuck all to believe in and who could blame them. Not one single Fan amongst us would ever buy in to that kind of reckless management. So the players do get a bit of sympathy there, although not in other ways.

4-4-2 is a suicidal formation these days in the Prem. Huge spaces all over the park in particular centrally. Can't afford to have 2 up top and leave the rest to it with wide wingers hugging the touchline. 

Scarles, Wan-Bissaka, Summerville, Diouf, Paqueta all out of their natural positions, even Bowen aint an out an out Striker doing his best work as a right Forward.

If this really is the way Nuno wants to go about it all, then he can fuck right off out of it. He weren't even prepared to learn from the last disastrous match doing much the same moronic decision making. 

[Tomsdad]

Partridge on at half past.
 

[honky cat]

Its  mental whats happening. Honestly anyone off the street could have a picked better team tonight.

All they had to really sign this summer was a pair of competent CB'S nothing fancy, just being able to head and defend corners. Its like jack and beanstalk selling the cow and coming back with fucking magic beans. 

[Sir Alf]

The last 2 games have been just bizarre? Were his ast coaches the football tacticians and brains? Im almost speechless and yhat takes some doing 

We are relegated already as far as I can see.  

[Keep dreaming]

4 managers and the well isn't deep enough for our decline.

Of course it isn't the managers fault, even if their selections look screwed.

It's 5 years of bad player recruitment biting the clubs arse.

A new defence and a new midfield could fix things, but that would cost 150m more than Sullivan is willing to pay.

Only hope is a major overhaul after relegation is mathematically sure.

By overhaul I mean 12 new players, new owners and new staff

Bye bye

[Sweep]

Is this as bad as it sounds?
Just following this online with the odd catch up is depressing. 

 

 

Absolutely amateurish stuff until the Wilson > Scarles sub. 

Bit better since but I don't remember seeing a more ridiculously unsuitable PL midfield two than Soucek and Irving. 

[ragingbull]

Areola keeps parrying shots into the penalty area and conceding goals on the rebound.

[kylay]

Killman.  £40m 

I find myself posting this every single game

[goose]

Fucking awful for about 30min, at which point we were 2-0 down and Nuno was forced to take Scarles off.

since then we’ve been hopelessly trying to get back into it.

Kilman is shit but I think I hate Todibo more.

[Elpojohn]

I think the whole team needs replacing except Bowen.

[Pav BML]

Probably worse mate. Selection awful, is this bloke after a payout already ? Everton away we looked half decent at times and he changed everything. Midfield is just atrocious. Reminds me of villa years ago they floated down the bottom for ages signing badly until they finally went down. Got new owners who knew what they're doing and now look at them compared to us. We are a basket case 

[Vexed]

Nobody thought that team was going to do anything but lose including the manager. Nuno making a point or playing for a payout?

Either way, this is relegation. We've been pummelled in consecutive games by shit teams. It's done. 

[camel-with-3-humps]

How clueless and naive people on here are. 

Sullivan will not sell if we get relegated. It will prolong his stay. 

nobody sells their asset at rock bottom. 

 

[El Scorchio]

Is this as bad as it sounds?
Just following this online with the odd catch up is depressing. 

Worse. The first 15 was maybe the worst I have EVER seen us play,

[El Scorchio]

What's mental is this lot are piss poor. We could actually still win this with the right subs at half time.

 

They've let us off the hook that 1st half. If both Brentford and Leeds had their shooting boots on they both could have blitzed us away with ease. Nunothings tactics have been off the scale horrific. 

 

They have. They could be out of sight, but what's mad is this doesn't seem like it would take much to fix with two subs at half time. I think we all know which ones. He's not going to though is he.

[zebthecat]

Is this as bad as it sounds?
Just following this online with the odd catch up is depressing. 

[Sweep]

Baffling selection from the manager.

Team looks like it has no belief in the tactics, the structure, the positions some of them are being asked to play or each other.

We're much worse than we were a month ago.

[southbankbornnbred]

Irving is a trier but he's just not up to this level of football. If we can all see that, why can't our manager? What have Fernandes and Magassa done to Nuno?

 

 

Irving is a lower half Championship player.

He’d do OK at Charlton. Or Rangers.

[RootsRadical]

Nuno did an amazing job at Wolves & Forest.
Was no worse than any other manager at Spurs around that time, and did the double in Saudi.

Clearly not a fraud or as bad as you lot are saying.
Even Loppy had a good record before joining us, and Potter never looked as bad as he did with us.

No excuse for the shambles of the  last 2 games, but there are clearly deep underlying problems at the club due to Sullivan's long term incompetence that has finally cought up with him.

[Massive Attack]

What's mental is this lot are piss poor. We could actually still win this with the right subs at half time.

 

 

They've let us off the hook that 1st half. If both Brentford and Leeds had their shooting boots on they both could have blitzed us away with ease. Nunothings tactics have been off the scale horrific. 

 

[Helmut Shown]

Well wasn't that fucking awful?

[nychammer]

we've been ok latterly - it could be 2-2 if soucek scores when it's harder to miss and for offfside. The arent anything special they just too advantage of a poor starting lineup and really bad defending

[Keep dreaming]

The 4 most important players to keep balance are the worst in the league in all departments.
Kilman Todibo
Irving Soucek

This is insane and dead certain the drop

[El Scorchio]

Just turned it on. Did we really have a third of the half as injury time?

Yup. Scarles took ages with his dislocated shoulder, and one or two of theirs had lengthy treatment.