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Exiled In Surrey
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A flag should be about pride. About unity. About celebrating who we are.That’s not what’s happening right now. These England flags going up everywhere?That’s not patriotism. That’s marking territory. That’s sending a message.And the message is ugly: “This is ours. You don’t belong here.”That isn’t pride. That’s fear. That’s exclusion. That’s racism dressed up as tradition.Real patriotism doesn’t slam the door in someone’s face. Real patriotism says: we are strong enough, proud enough, confident enough to welcome others in. To share our values — values of fairness, decency, tolerance — the values that have always made Britain worth being proud of.When you turn the flag into a weapon, you betray it. You betray our history. You betray the very idea of Britain.Because the truth is this: our flag should say we belong together. Not you stay out.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 01 Nov 2025, 22:11

A fleet of fucking Ambulances for 1 stabbing incident. Fucking sick of this shit... 

Think I'd be waiting for a more reputable source than a load of mini roundabout painters.

That part of the world I'd have put on eastern Europeans being involved, or pro Palestinian nutters but I agree, if it's migrants stabbing up innocent commuters it's going to fucking go off. It probably should go off regardless of who was responsible, unless it was a load of county lines cunts getting offed. Fucking hell. 
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A fleet of fucking Ambulances for 1 stabbing incident. Fucking sick of this shit... 

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Around 10 people stabbed. I'm so fucking ready for it...

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In Huntingdon now on a LNER Train service between Stevenage and Peterborough.. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... xXgcBWCHIw

Stabby wanker cowards. Fucking sick of it!
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Surrey son, here’s some unfiltered takes on migrants. Unless you come here with the intention to integrate while offering something of value, access is denied. If you come here illegally and are found in an enclave that is culturally alien to the UK, I’d euthanise that person under my rule because the host nation would not accept them back. 

Do not come here illegally.
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Shit just got real.

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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 31 Oct 2025, 12:20
Exiled In Surrey" wrote: 31 Oct 2025, 11:58 Marking territory
 
But the whole of the UK is that territory, so it's population are fully entitled to "mark it". All of it.

The issues start when some newcomers insist on creating enclaves within that legally mark-able territory, whether or not the locals within who's community these newcomers live agree and accept.

If these newcomers didn't come to the UK to become an integrated part of UK society, why, exactly, did they come?

Had the positions been reversed, would they accept the same things happening in their own country of birth?

If the practice of doing such things (eg. In the days of the British Empire) is now widely accepted as wrong, why try to continue/revise & promote, even, such practices in the 21st century?
That's easy. They come here because they literally have to do nothing to integrate. They can remain as secular and silo'd from British Culture. They simply join up with their communities who are also completely and utterly divided from British Culture and, in many cases, actively are against British Culture. 

And you may ask, if they are so uninterested or against British Culture, then why come here? Well, that's easy too. For the hand outs. Housing, healthcare, PIP's, disability. I mean, they love all the things they get for free but don't want fuck all to do with the state that provides it. 

I may refer you to the cases in France at moment. Numerous immigrants who were deported within the 'one in on out' scheme are now seeking legal action because the French state won't provide them with free housing. Guess what they want? Yes, they want to come back to UK. 

And, I think you know the answer to your question about would they accept it in their country. No, of course not. 

It's an absolute joke and its no wonder that its looking likely Reform may win the next general election. 
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 31 Oct 2025, 12:20
If these newcomers didn't come to the UK to become an integrated part of UK society, why, exactly, did they come?

Had the positions been reversed, would they accept the same things happening in their own country of birth?

If the practice of doing such things (eg. In the days of the British Empire) is now widely accepted as wrong, why try to continue/revise & promote, even, such practices in the 21st century?
 
 
 
 
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Exiled In Surrey" wrote: 31 Oct 2025, 11:58 Marking territory
 
 
But the whole of the UK is that territory, so it's population are fully entitled to "mark it". All of it.

The issues start when some newcomers insist on creating enclaves within that legally mark-able territory, whether or not the locals within who's community these newcomers live agree and accept.

If these newcomers didn't come to the UK to become an integrated part of UK society, why, exactly, did they come?

Had the positions been reversed, would they accept the same things happening in their own country of birth?

If the practice of doing such things (eg. In the days of the British Empire) is now widely accepted as wrong, why try to continue/revise & promote, even, such practices in the 21st century?
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Exiled In Surrey" wrote: 31 Oct 2025, 11:58 Marking territory
I piss up against lamppost, confuses the mutts. 
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Marking territory
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XKhammer wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 17:41
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 12:13
XKhammer wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 11:32
If you're not interested my my options why do you constantly stalk me?
You're a conspiracy theorist which makes you thick as shit with zero debating skills
Because, 

You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You know you NONCE, we're sure you NONCE,
You're R-A-P-E-Y. 
Brilliant response well thought out and very educated 
You forgot witty.

We didn't forget...

You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You know you NONCE. We're sure you NONCE.
You're R-A-P-E-Y.
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“very educated”

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THUNDERCLINT wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 12:13
XKhammer wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 11:32
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 07:39
 
I'm not debating you, I don't recall ever trying to debate you, I'm not intestered in the opinions of a rapey nonce.



 
If you're not interested my my options why do you constantly stalk me?
You're a conspiracy theorist which makes you thick as shit with zero debating skills
Because, 

You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You know you NONCE, we're sure you NONCE,
You're R-A-P-E-Y. 
Brilliant response well thought out and very educated 
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XKhammer wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 11:32
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 07:39
XKhammer wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 16:49
You're debating skills and banter are so brilliant and original 
l bet your BMI is tens times higher than you're IQ
 
I'm not debating you, I don't recall ever trying to debate you, I'm not intestered in the opinions of a rapey nonce.


 
If you're not interested my my options why do you constantly stalk me?
You're a conspiracy theorist which makes you thick as shit with zero debating skills
Because, 

You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You're R-A-P-E-Y,
You know you NONCE, we're sure you NONCE,
You're R-A-P-E-Y. 
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: 18 Sep 2025, 07:39
XKhammer wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 16:49
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 16:37
Calling you out as a rapey nonce is neither conspiracy or theory.
You're debating skills and banter are so brilliant and original 
l bet your BMI is tens times higher than you're IQ
 
I'm not debating you, I don't recall ever trying to debate you, I'm not intestered in the opinions of a rapey nonce.

 
If you're not interested my my options why do you constantly stalk me?
You're a conspiracy theorist which makes you thick as shit with zero debating skills
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goose wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 16:56 **your
What a cսnt.

Sets out to try and mug someone of about their IQ, gets the first word out of his mouth wrong.

That takes a special kind of idiot.
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XKhammer wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 16:49
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 16:37
XKhammer wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 15:00
You have also just described the conspiracy theorists loons like yourself 
Calling you out as a rapey nonce is neither conspiracy or theory.
You're debating skills and banter are so brilliant and original 
l bet your BMI is tens times higher than you're IQ
 
I'm not debating you, I don't recall ever trying to debate you, I'm not intestered in the opinions of a rapey nonce.
 
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**your
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 16:37
XKhammer wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 15:00
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:10
No, we don't. We don't have to because you do it yourself.

lThe left is just a rabble of easily led morons or emotionally disturbed loons,  followed by a bunch of easily led emotionally disturbed moronic loons.

It's why the left was targetted to be the useful idiots of whoever is really pulling their strings. No paid agitators on the centre, centre right, right or the mythical bogeyman far right...
You have also just described the conspiracy theorists loons like yourself 
Calling you out as a rapey nonce is neither conspiracy or theory.
You're debating skills and banter are so brilliant and original 
l bet your BMI is tens times higher than you're IQ
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XKhammer wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 15:00
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:10
zebthecat wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:09
You and Nutz are the same in that you paint everyone on the left as loonies.
No, we don't. We don't have to because you do it yourself.

lThe left is just a rabble of easily led morons or emotionally disturbed loons,  followed by a bunch of easily led emotionally disturbed moronic loons.

It's why the left was targetted to be the useful idiots of whoever is really pulling their strings. No paid agitators on the centre, centre right, right or the mythical bogeyman far right...
You have also just described the conspiracy theorists loons like yourself 
Calling you out as a rapey nonce is neither conspiracy or theory.
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:10
zebthecat wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 11:09
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 08:50
Of course it is, always has been. It's why they're all no miserable and have no emotional control.

The Loony Left notion wasn't an accident or a joke, sadly it was too dismissive on the danger these freaks presented but thankfully the masses have seen the light. 
You and Nutz are the same in that you paint everyone on the left as loonies.
No, we don't. We don't have to because you do it yourself.

lThe left is just a rabble of easily led morons or emotionally disturbed loons,  followed by a bunch of easily led emotionally disturbed moronic loons.

It's why the left was targetted to be the useful idiots of whoever is really pulling their strings. No paid agitators on the centre, centre right, right or the mythical bogeyman far right...
You have also just described the conspiracy theorists loons like yourself 
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Swiss. wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:47
goose wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:17 There’s a lot of stupid people out there for sure.
Yeah like the ones who voted for Brexit.
Who'd have thought that so many stupid people could get something so right, eh?

Law of unintended collateral benefits in play or does stupidity equate to common sense these days?
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Swiss. wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:47
goose wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:17 There’s a lot of stupid people out there for sure.
Yeah like the ones who voted for Brexit.
And the ones who keep moaning about it all these years later.
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goose wrote: 17 Sep 2025, 12:17 There’s a lot of stupid people out there for sure.
Yeah like the ones who voted for Brexit.
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