West Ham vs Newcastle | PL | 2.11.25 | Prediction and Match Thread

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WHU: 24/5
Draw: 17/5
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Another game at the soulless bowl. All eyes will be on the team selection in the first instance, with the hope that we revert to the Everton form, and purge the experimentation of the last two games.

Nuno seems to have confirmed that for him Paqueta is a fixture in the side at 10, so suggestions he might make way look impossible. Fullkrug remains sidelined. Earthy is back in contention, and Mavro remains on the sidelines. Ezra Myers and Fin Herrinck have been called up to train with the first team.

Predicted LineUp:

Areola

Wan Bissaka
Todibo
Kilman
KWP

Potts
Fernandes

Bowen (c)
Paqueta
Summerville

Wilson

Subs:
Hermansen, Igor, Diouf, Magassa, Irving, Soucek, Marshall, Earthy, Guilherme

Predicted Result:
More of the same seems likely, with them on form and another side with a powerful aerial presence. 

West Ham 1 - 3 Newcastle

COYI

[Ron Eff]

Look what happens when you play your best players in their best positions.

Hopefully that's the penny now dropped for Nuno, and I can start hoping we can stay up.

The only 'strange' tactical change I could see was swapping Kilman (right hand side) and Todibo (left hand side), but it worked.  Todibo had his best game for us.  Kilman was also better than he has been recently.

Exactly, great starting 11 (finally) then got rid of the striker with 30 mins to go and we struggled, he then kept replacing attackers with defenders. 

 

 

I think the changes were the right ones. Newcastle were overloading as they chased the game, we matched them while keeping a threat on the counter, which we scored from as they threw everyone forward. Twice if you count the one ruled out by Soucek having bigger feet than the defender. 

[Massive Attack]

Look what happens when you play your best players in their best positions.

Hopefully that's the penny now dropped for Nuno, and I can start hoping we can stay up.

The only 'strange' tactical change I could see was swapping Kilman (right hand side) and Todibo (left hand side), but it worked.  Todibo had his best game for us.  Kilman was also better than he has been recently.

Exactly, great starting 11 (finally) then got rid of the striker with 30 mins to go and we struggled, he then kept replacing attackers with defenders. 

 

 

Made replacements and yet we still managed to put the ball in the net twice with 1 goal narrowly ruled out by the finest of margins. He shored us up and still made sure we had a goal threat trying to score more which I liked to see. 

[Ron Eff]

I reckon Potts had pictures of Potter's other half.

His treatment of Potts is up there with the most stupid things a manager has ever done at the club.

Yep, I said the same yesterday. Quite why a manager who loved passing for passing sake in our own half didn’t see fit to play a very good passing midfielder over Soucek is baffling. Maybe Potts passed forwards too frequently for him. 

[twoleftfeet]

Look what happens when you play your best players in their best positions.

Hopefully that's the penny now dropped for Nuno, and I can start hoping we can stay up.

The only 'strange' tactical change I could see was swapping Kilman (right hand side) and Todibo (left hand side), but it worked.  Todibo had his best game for us.  Kilman was also better than he has been recently.

I made this exact point yesterday evening. Do try to read the thread before posting to avoid spamming it up by regurgitating other members comments and passing them off as your own.

COYI - the sites resident " expert ". Get's in early with the " manager is shit " comments so that he can, eventually, say I told you he was. What a first class knob.

[Come On You Irons]

Look what happens when you play your best players in their best positions.

Hopefully that's the penny now dropped for Nuno, and I can start hoping we can stay up.

The only 'strange' tactical change I could see was swapping Kilman (right hand side) and Todibo (left hand side), but it worked.  Todibo had his best game for us.  Kilman was also better than he has been recently.

I made this exact point yesterday evening. Do try to read the thread before posting to avoid spamming it up by regurgitating other members comments and passing them off as your own.

[El Scorchio]

We won, I was entertained. Job done.

Nuno picked a sensible team, everyone in the right place and our consensus strongest 11
Bright start and then really cruelly punished and you got to thinking 'here we go again'. One of those particularly galling games where we lose but play bravely, knowing it would have been enough to beat leeds and maybe Brentford, and three crushing defeats..... but no.

We persevered really well though some setbacks and good goalkeeping to get our just reward and some luck of our own, earned through good play. Deserved 2-1 at the break.

Absolutely looked like a team bereft of wins in the second half where all we wanted to do was not concede. I get that. Fair enough in the circumstances. It worked. We looked solid and Areola didn't have tonnes to do. (I LOVED the shithousery at the end- everyone fucking does it to us and Arsenal in particular seem to get lauded for it, so fight fire with fire. We will need to be nasty and cynical this season so why not start now) Let's be real, we are in a serious hole so we'll have to do a lot of protecting slender leads if we get our noses in front going forward. Sling a bunch of defenders on and just try and hit teams on the break. We can do that. As long as we show ambition and braveness to come forward when level or losing, we can defend like the ghosts of Moyes in the last 20 when a goal up. That's fine. It's what happens in football in an important match no matter what team you are.

Job done. Gutted for Potts though but he was excellent. Sure Newcastle were not great but part of that was down to us and we managed to punish them for not being on their A game. That's a strong message to send out. We aren't going to be a pushover going forward. We were a pushover against Brentford and Leeds. Let's hope those points lost at Leeds don't come back to bite us because that was winnable. 

Defence much improved. LOVED Areola getting some great punches on the ball. That's clearly been worked on. Apart from me shitting it when i saw Diouf on Woltemede, no danger from corners. Well done Kilman and Todibo. Todibo looked up for it. Like he had a point to prove. For the first time in a WHU shirt. He's clearly our most talented defender so let's hope he starts to show it. Having a sold MF in front of them helps. I liked sticking Soucek up front when Wilson was fucked given our lack of options. He will occupy space and defenders and do everything he can to be a nuisance- he doesn't have to play a lot of football and his weaknesses are minimised. Just try and get in the box when we break, or win a flick on or lay the ball off if he can while being physical against the defenders. You can always count on him to give you what he's got. I'd stick with this going forward until Fullkrug is fit. He and Wilson are nothing if not fucking game for a challenge. I don't like Wilson but I admire his willingness to fight and to try for us when he's got pretty little skin in the game as far as we are concerned. I like he clearly didn't like being left on the bench and had a point to prove- well, 100000 points if you believe the pay structure.... He could have gone through the motions when on the pitch though, but he didn't.

I'm hoping if we stay injury free or relatively, this lot should get us to January still in the mix, and a couple of canny acquisitions could really help. Desperately we need a proper, reliable, PL quality striker who can make an impact. We desperately need a leader at the back and a bit of depth in a few other places.

This felt like a new dawn. Hopefully not a false one. We should all be looking at three points against Burnley because that's very gettable if we play like today. We might even be able to scrap something against Liverpool and Man U like this. If we can get to 16-18 points by the end of the calendar year, we are in with a good chance of surviving here. Villa and Fulham are winnable. Now there's hope where before there was none.  

[Sweep]

A good all round team effort with Bowen leading the way from start to finish.

Midfield was tenacious and composed on the ball , defence probably had one of their easier days though Areola made a few smart stops in the first half in particular.

Makes picking the team a lot easier for the manager who got everything right this time , long may that continue.

Newcastle were a bit of a mess. Thought we took them apart in wide areas. 

Need to follow it up next week - Burnley have accumulated a few decent results against the likes of Leeds, Wolves, Sunderland, so they'll be scrapping as a minimum. 

They have only been taken to the cleaners by Man City and Spurs when away from home.

Forest play Leeds next weekend too, while Wolves are away at Chelsea.


 

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As pleasing as yesterday’s result and performance was I have to say that Newcastle put in a team effort that was some way below the level of their constituent parts. 

I am sure that Burnley will be a much harder not to crack Saturday.

[Lee Trundle]

I reckon Potts had pictures of Potter's other half.

His treatment of Potts is up there with the most stupid things a manager has ever done at the club.

[Council Scum]

Look what happens when you play your best players in their best positions.

Hopefully that's the penny now dropped for Nuno, and I can start hoping we can stay up.

The only 'strange' tactical change I could see was swapping Kilman (right hand side) and Todibo (left hand side), but it worked.  Todibo had his best game for us.  Kilman was also better than he has been recently.

Exactly, great starting 11 (finally) then got rid of the striker with 30 mins to go and we struggled, he then kept replacing attackers with defenders. 

[Rossal]

If we can limp to January and be within touching distance of 17th or even in that position then hopefully we can add 2 or 3 and strengthen our bench. 

The starting 11 was great, but our bench was shite. We need some quality depth in the wide areas and up top especially. 

[Metroplex]

I enjoyed the first half, less so the second and Newcastle was surprisingly poor. 

[Lee Trundle]

Look what happens when you play your best players in their best positions.

Hopefully that's the penny now dropped for Nuno, and I can start hoping we can stay up.

The only 'strange' tactical change I could see was swapping Kilman (right hand side) and Todibo (left hand side), but it worked.  Todibo had his best game for us.  Kilman was also better than he has been recently.

[twoleftfeet]

Isn’t it lovely to wake up on a Monday morning with 3 points

[Russ of the BML]

It really was an outstanding performance. Newcastle, although a bit inconsistent, have some really powerful dangerous players that can hurt you. Their midfield 3 of Guimaraes, Tonali and Joelinton won't often get out played and out muscled. But we took it to them and rolled them over. Their front three of Gordon, Murphy and the Woldermort are also dangerous on their day. But I thought Kilman and Todibo looked solid. Powerful and gutsy performances from the defenders. 

But its what this performance has done mentally. The supporters will now be excited for Burnley game and it creates such a different atmosphere. And as will the players. They will really be looking forward to this game and they have a week to do more work on the training pitch. 

I really do hate to say it, but I am going to say it. Yesterday felt like a turning point. When you see that we are capable of that it gives you such a lift as you get your hope back. First time for a long time yesterday I felt that pride of being a West Ham fan return. 

[Rossal]

Fantastic performance, fully deserved the 3 points. Felt like a long time since we've said that walking out of the bowl. 

Potts and Fernandes were outstanding. Special mentions to Todibo and Paqueta also. 

We showed some character after going 1 down and we looked threatening going forward. Tonnes of positives to take into the 6 pointer on saturday. 

[GBHammer63]

Those of us who are of a certain age know we have performances like that in us, but where I didn’t see the performance coming from was Todibo and to a slightly lesser degree Kilman, happy teat a massive portion of humble pie regarding the pair of them. Potts, massive breath of fresh air for the team and support.
One swallow doesn’t make a summer though and while I’m happy to take those points Burnley is probably more important now. 
Now everyone knows that the team can get to that level it’s more important to sustain it, then we can hope for the greater escape.

[Keep dreaming]

Fuck the BBC

every fucking time we win we have a fucking female commentator to listen to, fucking hate it. Screechy annoying voices

Only a victim of domestic abuse, or a divorced small dick idiot, would say a thing like that.
I guess you are both...

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

hats off to the supporters over there today too.




 

Yes. The vibe was good today

 Indeed it was
'Vibe' is an interesting term
...we used to call it.. 'up for it' ..
hey ho..it's all modern lingo for the same fing I guess

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

First complete performance I can remember us putting in over the last two seasons. Areola was markedly improved as others have noted. I'm also glad we have stopped trying to play out of the back with as poor as he is in distribution. It helped to minimize that issue. 

Didn't agree with the substitutions but they certainly came off and that's what nuno gets paid for. He'd have been coated if they leveled it, and it was such an important win for the players and fans. As others have mentioned, you really could see what it meant to the players. Dare I say it may look as though they are buying in to Nuno. Even if it's just a match, it's a great feeling to see it all come together and to show some menace out there.

Well said kylay son
Just give us something..and they did ...it's a start .
Next week will be the acid test...that  is where the metal meets the meat.
our  support need to stand up and be counted again ..back the team ..give them some  confidence ...then it's down to them to perform

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Fuck the BBC

every fucking time we win we have a fucking female commentator to listen to, fucking hate it. Screechy annoying voices

No Barry Davies or Gerald Sinstadt are they.

She was alright TBF..

[kylay]

First complete performance I can remember us putting in over the last two seasons. Areola was markedly improved as others have noted. I'm also glad we have stopped trying to play out of the back with as poor as he is in distribution. It helped to minimize that issue. 

Didn't agree with the substitutions but they certainly came off and that's what nuno gets paid for. He'd have been coated if they leveled it, and it was such an important win for the players and fans. As others have mentioned, you really could see what it meant to the players. Dare I say it may look as though they are buying in to Nuno. Even if it's just a match, it's a great feeling to see it all come together and to show some menace out there.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Get rid of that bubble machine too... embarrassing cringe 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Robert Green is a very good pundit...far above most of the divs they get on there..
I can forgive the chin

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Fuck the BBC

every fucking time we win we have a fucking female commentator to listen to, fucking hate it. Screechy annoying voices

No Barry Davies or Gerald Sinstadt are they.