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Fights that would have had a different outcome if both fighters were in their prime.

I’ll go Hagler v Leonard and Tyson v Hollyfield.

Who you got?
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Council Scum" wrote: 18 Nov 2025, 11:01
Benn should have been counted out
You get a longer count (up to 20 secs?) if you get knocked out of the ring, I thought?

And to be fair to Benn, he was pretty much up in his feet and back in the ring on the 10 second mark.  This was after the piece of shit McClellan had continue to punch him while he was prone on the ropes.
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zico wrote: 18 Nov 2025, 10:21 If you like boxing then this is well worth a watch.  I was trying to find some highlights of Benn Jr v Eubank Jr on You Tube and stumbled across this video of Chris Eubank Snr doing a commentary of his first fight against Nigel Benn back in 1990.  I was a Benn fan so wasn't really interested but gave it a go and must say it is a fascinatingly honest run down of that fight from Eubanks perspective.  After watching that up popped on my feed an old Benn fight against Anthony Logan back in 88.  I couldn't remember it but wow what a sliding doors moment.  Logan had Benn down for the first time and was clearly going to win as Benn had gone but somehow Nigel produced one hell of a left handed upper cut to knock Logan out.  Incredibly similar to Eubanks desperate last throw of the dice against Watson but without the tragic consequences.  Anyway this is a good watch.

You can also look at the Benn v McClellan long count in the first round, Benn should have been counted out, McClellan life changed forever and Benn gets a win when it could have finished bis career. 
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If you like boxing then this is well worth a watch.  I was trying to find some highlights of Benn Jr v Eubank Jr on You Tube and stumbled across this video of Chris Eubank Snr doing a commentary of his first fight against Nigel Benn back in 1990.  I was a Benn fan so wasn't really interested but gave it a go and must say it is a fascinatingly honest run down of that fight from Eubanks perspective.  After watching that up popped on my feed an old Benn fight against Anthony Logan back in 88.  I couldn't remember it but wow what a sliding doors moment.  Logan had Benn down for the first time and was clearly going to win as Benn had gone but somehow Nigel produced one hell of a left handed upper cut to knock Logan out.  Incredibly similar to Eubanks desperate last throw of the dice against Watson but without the tragic consequences.  Anyway this is a good watch.

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He'll likely fight Fury after next year for an obscene amount of money again.

Another fight that no one really wants to see anymore.

Classic Eddie.
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Niblets wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 15:25 I'd wager that there's something in there to say AJ gets paid more for each round he stays in there, so that Paul doesn't get humiliated.
Didn't watch it but I heard with the Paul v Tyson bout Tyson didn't even throw a meaningful punch!  If someone actually put Paul on his arse it might stop all this nonsence.
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I'd wager that there's something in there to say AJ gets paid more for each round he stays in there, so that Paul doesn't get humiliated.
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I'm just reading that £70m is guaranteed as well.

Difficult to turn down that money.
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Lee Trundle" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 14:21 I'm a boxing fan, but I hope Jake Paul beats him to prove what a joke it's become.
It will just get called a fix if he does. 
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I'm a boxing fan, but I hope Jake Paul beats him to prove what a joke it's become.
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Iron Duke" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 14:05 Joshua v Jake Paul is on.

Embarrassing for AJ and Hearn.
Dec 19th. Panto season.

Perfect for this scripted shitcuntery.
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Iron Duke" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 14:05 Joshua v Jake Paul is on.

Embarrassing for AJ and Hearn.
70 odd million retirement fund

As i said earlier, boxing is all about marketing now. 
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Joshua v Jake Paul is on.

Embarrassing for AJ and Hearn.
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How many heavy hitters has he fought compared to Jones Jnr? 
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The arguments been made you just choose to conveniently skirt over it. Only 24 fights whilst fighting a number of heavy hitting heavyweights that would clearly take it's toll on anyone and need more recovery time. You can play it down as much as you like.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 12:52 Only 24 fights...
Brilliant argument, you look more clueless every time you post, it's no wonder the best you can do is just repeat yourself over and over again.
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Only 24 fights...
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Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 12:19 Sure fella. Only 24 fights....
You brought Usyk into it with Eerie as some kind or gage for Jones Jnr, I pointed out how stupid that was. 
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Sure fella. Only 24 fights....
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Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 10:09 Even heavy hitting Gassiev he went the distance with back at Cruiser before jumping up to heavyweight on top of fighting the likes of Dubois and Joshua twice each amongst others.
You are clutching at straws, as you don't have the first clue what you are talking about. 
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Roy Jones Junior first came to my attention when he was quite openly and blatantly robbed of Olympic gold  in 1988. 

Some boxing finals took place on the last day of Olympic competition in 1988. Jones fought against a South Korean, Park Si Hun, in Seoul and was adjudged to have lost the fight 3-2. It was not the only controversial decision in the tournament but it was the most blatant.
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Even heavy hitting Gassiev he went the distance with back at Cruiser before jumping up to heavyweight on top of fighting the likes of Dubois and Joshua twice each amongst others.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 09:51 Again, Roy Jones has never had to face the heavyweight division like Uysk has which takes a serious toll on a Boxer which you well know, on top of everything else he's done in the sport. 
The heavyweight division is pretty shit, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. 
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Again, Roy Jones has never had to face the heavyweight division like Uysk has which takes a serious toll on a Boxer which you well know, on top of everything else he's done in the sport. 
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Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 09:45
Council Scum" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 09:42
Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 09:33 Roy Jones Jr. had a career total of 121 amateur fights and won a silver medal at the 1988 Olympics. His professional career included 66 wins and 10 losses in 76 total fights before his bout with Joe Calzaghe, which he lost by unanimous decision.  Amateur and Olympic record
  • Amateur record: 121 wins and 13 losses.
  • 1988 Olympics: Won a silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics as a light middleweight for the United States. 
Oleksandr Usyk's record up to his second professional fight with Daniel Dubois in July 2025 stands at 359 total fights (335 amateur, 24 professional) with only 15 losses, all in his amateur career. 

Usyk had a highly decorated amateur career with an official record of 335 wins and 15 losses, culminating in an Olympic gold medal at the London 2012 Games. 
  • Amateur and Olympic Fights: Usyk had an extensive and highly successful amateur career, competing in approximately 350 fights with a record of 335 wins and 15 losses. His amateur career included winning a gold medal at the 2012 London Olympics and a bronze medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
  • Professional Fights: Prior to his first bout with Dubois, Usyk was an undefeated professional boxer with a record of 20 wins and 0 losses (13 by knockout). 
And as I said previous, has also been in the ring against some of the heaviest hitters around so he's taken his fair share of punishment in the ring as well down the years.
Amateur boxing is nothing like Pro boxing, it's a completely meaningless stat. But I probably don't need to explain that to you, you seem to know your stuff. 

No, it all adds up to years of training, wear and tear and fighting, as well as be dismissive of the heavy hitters Usyk has had to regularly face by comparison in the ring putting in some serious mileage. 
Yes, 3 round amateur fights, where the ref steps in if your head gets rocked, are the same as pro fights. You really know your stuff. 
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Council Scum" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 09:42
Massive Attack" wrote: 17 Nov 2025, 09:33 Roy Jones Jr. had a career total of 121 amateur fights and won a silver medal at the 1988 Olympics. His professional career included 66 wins and 10 losses in 76 total fights before his bout with Joe Calzaghe, which he lost by unanimous decision.  Amateur and Olympic record
  • Amateur record: 121 wins and 13 losses.
  • 1988 Olympics: Won a silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics as a light middleweight for the United States. 
Oleksandr Usyk's record up to his second professional fight with Daniel Dubois in July 2025 stands at 359 total fights (335 amateur, 24 professional) with only 15 losses, all in his amateur career. 

Usyk had a highly decorated amateur career with an official record of 335 wins and 15 losses, culminating in an Olympic gold medal at the London 2012 Games. 
  • Amateur and Olympic Fights: Usyk had an extensive and highly successful amateur career, competing in approximately 350 fights with a record of 335 wins and 15 losses. His amateur career included winning a gold medal at the 2012 London Olympics and a bronze medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
  • Professional Fights: Prior to his first bout with Dubois, Usyk was an undefeated professional boxer with a record of 20 wins and 0 losses (13 by knockout). 
And as I said previous, has also been in the ring against some of the heaviest hitters around so he's taken his fair share of punishment in the ring as well down the years.
Amateur boxing is nothing like Pro boxing, it's a completely meaningless stat. But I probably don't need to explain that to you, you seem to know your stuff. 

No, it all adds up to years of training, wear and tear and fighting, as well as be dismissive of the heavy hitters Usyk has had to regularly face by comparison in the ring putting in some serious mileage. 
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