NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Yep, fewer ""characters"" these days - many more robots. Phenomenal athletes, but 'roid-riven robots. I like Sherman at Seattle, though. I shouldn't, but I do. He's good value, as well as a first-class player."

[Far Cough]

"I dunno, is it just me but DEFENSEs are shit nowadays"

[Grumpster]

Don't say I didn't warn you about Hyde first TD.

[southbankbornnbred]

Fair point - you didn't forget him at all!

[southbankbornnbred]

"The Browns have won, btw! Jesus - it really is Christmas."

[Far Cough]

Cough*

[southbankbornnbred]

"Btw, you forgot Abdul Salaam - the fourth member of the Exchange. He'd walk into most modern NFL sides."

[Far Cough]

I forgot Salaam

[southbankbornnbred]

"I get tear-y eyed when I think of the sack exchange. And then I remember that those guys would tear the heads off their mothers if it got them a sack, and I buck my ideas up. They were phenomenal. And nuts."

[Far Cough]

"To be fair I did like the New York Jets sack exchange with Joe Klecko, Gastineau and Lyons even though I was a bit of a Dolphin fan then"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Oi! Ken O'Brien for the Jets, too! (Why the fuck did the Jets pass on Marino with the 24th pick, and instead choose O'Brien?! So, Marino had a bad knee - he never ran anywhere in his life anyway!) Btw, six QBs drafted in the first round in 1983 - the other was Todd Blackledge of Kansas City. Quite a draft class."

[Far Cough]

"That draft that saw Marino and Elway also produced Tony Eason and Jim Kelly, a phenomenal draft for QBs"

[zebthecat]

Dan Marino for me. he was always going to stand and throw from the pocket but the defence just couldn't stop him. I am biased as i lived in Miami for a year as a kid

[southbankbornnbred]

"Alright, I'll tempt madness by adding a contribution to the GOAT debate. All the names mentioned so far were incredible - so you have to ask what marks out somebody who might be the ""greatest""? The answer is subjective, of course But for me, I think of the man you would pick to lead your team on the final drive of a game, from inside your own five yard line, when you're down by a score. Montana, Marino, Young, Favre, Unitas, Bradshaw, Rodgers, Manning, Brady - all amazing QBs. But how many times did John Elway face that very situation described above and win key games? He even did it in a Championship game, with ""The Drive"". Too good under pressure. Even better under pressure. So for me, it's Elway."

[Grumpster]

"Montana had the all round (and a 216 TD boy in Rice, woo hoo), my broncos pal calls it as Elway, but my main call for Rodgers is when hurried etc. His accuracy on the run, under pressure or when using a lower action is outrageous. And come on the Brown's, first pick here we come ;o)"

[Far Cough]

Buddy Ryan ran that Bears winning team as much as I love Ditka

[Far Cough]

"The Vikes had Cunningham for a while, he wasn't as good as he was at the Eagles though"

[IsaacHock]

"I hate the cheat Rex Ryan, but had a lot of time for his father. Marino was the GOAT, BTW."

[southbankbornnbred]

"I'm not going to add to the ""best ever"" debate (that way, madness lies) but for pure entertainment - Randall Cunningham. Mesmerizing. Not the best, by any stretch, but absolute box office viewing..."

[Far Cough]

Johnny Unitas for me :-)

[southbankbornnbred]

"Rodgers is ridiculously good - been playing with the sort of calf injury that keeps most QBs out of games, too."

[Takashi Miike]

"for achievements in the game it'll always be Montana for me, but who I enjoyed watching the most? it'd be Elway every time"

[zebthecat]

Watching the Packers/Vikings too. Rogers is stupidly good under pressure

[southbankbornnbred]

"Folks, don't go down that ""best QB of all time"" route on Christmas Eve - you'll all still be here on New Year's Eve, believe me..! It's just impossible to call, surely?"

[Far Cough]

"Haha, fair enough"