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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:17
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:13
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:11
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:09
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.

sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.


Silly nuts!
Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.
Stop acting retarded you know full well what I mean.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:13
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:11
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:09
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:06
What like VAT you mean?
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.

sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.


Silly nuts!
Getting away with what?
fantastic attempt at deflection btw.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:11
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:09
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:06
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:53
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
What like VAT you mean?
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.

sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.
Looks like you’re finally coming to terms that you lot seem to get away with it but somehow the USA won’t.


Silly nuts!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:09
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 18:06
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:53
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:49
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again! 

Soppy cսnt!
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
What like VAT you mean?
If VAT went up - yes. Same way NI contribution has gone up, and surprise surprise prices go up.

sounds like you’re finally getting to grips with how a cost increase works.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 18:06
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:53
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:49
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:36
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?

nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again! 

Soppy cսnt!
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.
What like VAT you mean?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:53
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:49
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:36
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:33
 Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.

Silly nuts!
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?

nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again! 

Soppy cսnt!
No but I’m aware of the difference between a permanent cost increase and a transitory one.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:49
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:36
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:33
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:23
Hahaha 🤣 “good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless 😂 

btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
 Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.

Silly nuts!
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?

nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.
Oh fuck me the sky is falling again! 

Soppy cսnt!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:36
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:33
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:23
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:19
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.


Poor Goose!
Hahaha 🤣 “good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless 😂 

btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
 Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.

Silly nuts!
What?? Why will they come back down? Are the tariffs going to come off?

nope.
its a permanent increase in costs ‘silly nuts’.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:33
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:23
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:19
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 16:55
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.


Poor Goose!
Hahaha 🤣 “good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless 😂 

btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?
 Their costs will come back down again, it’s transitory.

Silly nuts!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:23
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 17:19
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 16:55
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 16:53
You are clueless!

Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?


Poor Goose. 
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.


Poor Goose!
Hahaha 🤣 “good quarters and bad quarters”
So they’re all calling out the same risk but it’s just a bad quarter? And you call others clueless 😂 

btw GM sales were up but profits were down. They were down because their costs went up loads……. Can you guess why their costs went up?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 17:19
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 16:55
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 16:53
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:43
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.

Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
You are clueless!

Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?


Poor Goose. 
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?
I think they will have good quarters and bad quarters, good companies adjust to market conditions, it’s nothing new.


Poor Goose!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 16:55
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 16:53
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:43
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:32
And yet the stock market is flying high!
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.

Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
You are clueless!

Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?


Poor Goose. 
You think those 40+ companies are clueless?
are they lying? Or do you presume to know better than them?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 16:53
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:43
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:32
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:29
 
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.

not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
And yet the stock market is flying high!
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.

Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?
You are clueless!

Whatever happened to all this Stagflation you’ve been banging on about?


Poor Goose. 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:43
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:32
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:29
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:16
So desperate !

Poor Goose!
 
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.

not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
And yet the stock market is flying high!
No. A small number of stocks are and they are driving it. Specifically tech which is untouched by tariffs and defence stocks.

Do you think those big companies are lying about the hit to their profits?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:32
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:29
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:16
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:09
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
So desperate !

Poor Goose!
 
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.

not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.
And yet the stock market is flying high!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:29
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:16
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:09
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:02
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.

You’re embarrassing yourself again.
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
So desperate !

Poor Goose!
 
No those are real life, real time examples of companies dealing with rising costs because of tariffs. All those blue chip companies have called down profits.

not some pie in the sky hypothetical waffle on TV.
real numbers and real life examples.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:16
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:09
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:02
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:49
He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.

so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?

what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.

You’re embarrassing yourself again.
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc
So desperate !

Poor Goose!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:09
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:02
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:49
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:46
Watch the YouTube video I just posted. It’ll educate you. You are obviously ignorant to what is going on. This will help you!

Cheers!

You’re welcome!
He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.

so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?

what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.

You’re embarrassing yourself again.
Using the one example he could find to suit his agenda, brilliant.
what about:
GM, target, wallmart, stelantis, delta, JetBlue, Macy’s, p&g, Mattel, American eagle, Qualcomm, Nike, adidas, etc etc etc

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 15:02
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:49
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:46
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:39
No mention of why the US biggest car manufacturer has lost $1.1bn of profits due to tariffs.

someone is paying those tariffs, either US consumers or US companies. Let’s see who.
Watch the YouTube video I just posted. It’ll educate you. You are obviously ignorant to what is going on. This will help you!

Cheers!

You’re welcome!
He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.

so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?

what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?
He mentioned the margins/ profits and used Raytheon as an example. It’s at the end of the video. Again showing your ignorance.

You’re embarrassing yourself again.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 14:49
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:46
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:39
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:31
Here you go Goose, this will bring you up to speed.


No mention of why the US biggest car manufacturer has lost $1.1bn of profits due to tariffs.

someone is paying those tariffs, either US consumers or US companies. Let’s see who.
Watch the YouTube video I just posted. It’ll educate you. You are obviously ignorant to what is going on. This will help you!

Cheers!

You’re welcome!
He didn’t mention GM once.
all I heard was as a vague reference to Japanese investment.

so how are GM going to make back a $1.1bn hole from just one quarter?

what about the 40+ other US companies who have called down profits?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 14:46
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:39
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:31
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:23
They better start making their product in the USA then.


If only the EU had struck a trade agreement, now the Tarrifs will likely be higher.

So it appears Trumps Tarrifs are working.

MAGA
Here you go Goose, this will bring you up to speed.


No mention of why the US biggest car manufacturer has lost $1.1bn of profits due to tariffs.

someone is paying those tariffs, either US consumers or US companies. Let’s see who.
Watch the YouTube video I just posted. It’ll educate you. You are obviously ignorant to what is going on. This will help you!

Cheers!

You’re welcome!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 14:39
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:31
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:23
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 09:07 Puma shares dive after warning of full-year loss, US tariff impact - https://www.reuters.com/business/puma-s ... 025-07-25/

Kia Corp takes $570 million hit from US tariffs in second quarter - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

Volkswagen lowers guidance after taking $1.5-bln tariff hit in H1 - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

all in one day.
They better start making their product in the USA then.


If only the EU had struck a trade agreement, now the Tarrifs will likely be higher.

So it appears Trumps Tarrifs are working.

MAGA
Here you go Goose, this will bring you up to speed.


No mention of why the US biggest car manufacturer has lost $1.1bn of profits due to tariffs.

someone is paying those tariffs, either US consumers or US companies. Let’s see who.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 14:31
by Nutsin
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:23
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 09:07 Puma shares dive after warning of full-year loss, US tariff impact - https://www.reuters.com/business/puma-s ... 025-07-25/

Kia Corp takes $570 million hit from US tariffs in second quarter - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

Volkswagen lowers guidance after taking $1.5-bln tariff hit in H1 - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

all in one day.
They better start making their product in the USA then.


If only the EU had struck a trade agreement, now the Tarrifs will likely be higher.

So it appears Trumps Tarrifs are working.

MAGA
Here you go Goose, this will bring you up to speed.



Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 14:28
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 14:23
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 09:07 Puma shares dive after warning of full-year loss, US tariff impact - https://www.reuters.com/business/puma-s ... 025-07-25/

Kia Corp takes $570 million hit from US tariffs in second quarter - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

Volkswagen lowers guidance after taking $1.5-bln tariff hit in H1 - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

all in one day.
They better start making their product in the USA then.


If only the EU had struck a trade agreement, now the Tarrifs will likely be higher.

So it appears Trumps Tarrifs are working.

MAGA
What about  the $1.1bn its cost GM? 

Sportswear, cars etc etc will be even more expensive if manufactured in the US. 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 25 Jul 2025, 14:23
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 09:07 Puma shares dive after warning of full-year loss, US tariff impact - https://www.reuters.com/business/puma-s ... 025-07-25/

Kia Corp takes $570 million hit from US tariffs in second quarter - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

Volkswagen lowers guidance after taking $1.5-bln tariff hit in H1 - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 025-07-25/

all in one day.
They better start making their product in the USA then.


If only the EU had struck a trade agreement, now the Tarrifs will likely be higher.

So it appears Trumps Tarrifs are working.

MAGA