The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.
You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.
If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.
Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?
Stupid little man!
No, I’ve only ever accused you of being Pickle, nobody else. And I don’t need to read through Pickles posts I know it’s you.
Can’t wait for all the scum bag Dems to get exposed for all of their lies, corruption and treason. I’m especially looking forward to seeing Hillary get her dues.
Typical Trump supporter ignores facts when they are presented to them. But yes why bother checking Pickles posts I mean that would prove it one way or the other. Oh and dont come back with our similar views. Does that make Goose or Hammer I Am Pickle?
You think Trump isnt a liar and a felon and a child molester and a cheat. Amazing. Im looking forward to when he gets what he deserves which may come sooner than you think.
Youve never got over being slaughtered on here about your undying love for Moyes have you such a great judge of character arent you Moyes and Trump jeez!
Whatever you say Pickle!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 20:04
by Nurse Ratched
I think I'll repot my chilli plants tomorrow.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Twice you’ve mentioned Trump saying he would drop drug prices 1000% that is not the entire statement.
He referenced Ozempic costing approx $85 in the UK but close to $1,100 in the USA for the exact same product. He said at have we done to deserve that? From now on we (meaning the USA will no longer be the suckers who pay the most we will now pay the least) I make him right.
Tariffs were already in place AGAINST the USA from other countries and in addition there were trade restrictions against USA products that have all now been lifted. Do the USA can trade in these countries without restriction. That is what I mean with trade barriers.
Yes, I do think Trump is bringing in Trullions in new investments, 100%.
As for consumer sentiment you can pick any period of time to find a win, example I could go back to a number of any different months and Inflation was much higher than it is today, over 8% in some months. I don’t do that though, why? Because it’s a retarded argument.
You are definitely Pickle, no doubt about it!
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.
You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.
If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.
Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?
Stupid little man!
No, I’ve only ever accused you of being Pickle, nobody else. And I don’t need to read through Pickles posts I know it’s you.
Can’t wait for all the scum bag Dems to get exposed for all of their lies, corruption and treason. I’m especially looking forward to seeing Hillary get her dues.
Typical Trump supporter ignores facts when they are presented to them. But yes why bother checking Pickles posts I mean that would prove it one way or the other. Oh and dont come back with our similar views. Does that make Goose or Hammer I Am Pickle?
You think Trump isnt a liar and a felon and a child molester and a cheat. Amazing. Im looking forward to when he gets what he deserves which may come sooner than you think.
Youve never got over being slaughtered on here about your undying love for Moyes have you such a great judge of character arent you Moyes and Trump jeez!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 14:37
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 14:35
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
You think all Trumps posturing about $bns of investments are all true and guaranteed.
You think consumer sentiment is up because its higher than Trumps previous months yet 7% lower than it was 12months ago under Sleepy Joe.
and....
You think I dont know what Im talking about!?
Ha ha you are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue.
Twice you’ve mentioned Trump saying he would drop drug prices 1000% that is not the entire statement.
He referenced Ozempic costing approx $85 in the UK but close to $1,100 in the USA for the exact same product. He said at have we done to deserve that? From now on we (meaning the USA will no longer be the suckers who pay the most we will now pay the least) I make him right.
Tariffs were already in place AGAINST the USA from other countries and in addition there were trade restrictions against USA products that have all now been lifted. Do the USA can trade in these countries without restriction. That is what I mean with trade barriers.
Yes, I do think Trump is bringing in Trullions in new investments, 100%.
As for consumer sentiment you can pick any period of time to find a win, example I could go back to a number of any different months and Inflation was much higher than it is today, over 8% in some months. I don’t do that though, why? Because it’s a retarded argument.
You are definitely Pickle, no doubt about it!
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.
You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.
If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.
Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?
Stupid little man!
No, I’ve only ever accused you of being Pickle, nobody else. And I don’t need to read through Pickles posts I know it’s you.
Can’t wait for all the scum bag Dems to get exposed for all of their lies, corruption and treason. I’m especially looking forward to seeing Hillary get her dues.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 14:05
by Nutsin
Can anyone confirm this?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
You think all Trumps posturing about $bns of investments are all true and guaranteed.
You think consumer sentiment is up because its higher than Trumps previous months yet 7% lower than it was 12months ago under Sleepy Joe.
and....
You think I dont know what Im talking about!?
Ha ha you are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue.
Twice you’ve mentioned Trump saying he would drop drug prices 1000% that is not the entire statement.
He referenced Ozempic costing approx $85 in the UK but close to $1,100 in the USA for the exact same product. He said at have we done to deserve that? From now on we (meaning the USA will no longer be the suckers who pay the most we will now pay the least) I make him right.
Tariffs were already in place AGAINST the USA from other countries and in addition there were trade restrictions against USA products that have all now been lifted. Do the USA can trade in these countries without restriction. That is what I mean with trade barriers.
Yes, I do think Trump is bringing in Trullions in new investments, 100%.
As for consumer sentiment you can pick any period of time to find a win, example I could go back to a number of any different months and Inflation was much higher than it is today, over 8% in some months. I don’t do that though, why? Because it’s a retarded argument.
You are definitely Pickle, no doubt about it!
Unforunately your idol stated he would drop drug prices by 1000% because like you he is too stupid to understand maths.
You said he was removing all trade barriers. But unfortunately tarrifs his only trade policy are trade barriers which he has increased.
If you are going to make out consumer sentiment is up under Trump dont you have to contextualise it that it had dropped massively since he became President and hasnt yet returned to Pre Trump levels.
Ha and that is something else you are wrong about! Take a look back at Pickles posts they are nothing like mine. And arent I about the forth poster on here you have accused of being Pickle? Seems his and my views are not that rare then?
Stupid little man!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.
You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.
Poor Goose
Weak consumer demand I said.
This was my exact post from the day before:
”Strip out trade inventory & government spending and you have “Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers”. This is underlying demand growth.
Q2 was 1.2%, a step back of 0.7% from Q1.”
Weak demand growth for Q2, behind Q1 and a mile behind LY.
3 months of weak job data.
5 months of manufacturing contraction.
as for consumer spending, 0.1% after being adjusted for inflation.
yeh Trump is really “winning”.
Fuck me, you’ve got adjustments for your adjustments.
strip this out and strip that out and you’re still nowhere near stagflation or the sky falling in. And all this with absolutely no help from the Fed, in fact the opposite. This is what real capitalism looks like, not that Crony capitalism that heavily relies on the Fed to constantly step in and pick winners and losers.
Trumps making all the right moves, nobody said it was gonna happen over night or that it would be plain sailing but at the end of the day it’ll be worth it, especially for the middle and working class.
I’ve not got any adjustments.
“Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers” is the benchmark for underlying demand. You can dance around it all you want, but that’s how you measure demand in the economy.
by ‘making all the right moves’ do you mean pushing up inflation and slowing demand? Because that’s what he’s doing. You can piss & moan about the fed not cutting rates, but it’s his actions that have resulted in this.
Dont forget the hundreds of billions he’s adding to your national debt as well.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 02 Aug 2025, 01:19
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
I laid out the demand weakness in the GDP figures, you side-stepped it because you couldn't answer the question.
he's not bringing inflation down, in fact he is deliberately making decisions that push inflation up.
same with the debt, taking deliberate decisions that everyone knows will increase that debt.
I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.
You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.
Poor Goose
Weak consumer demand I said.
This was my exact post from the day before:
”Strip out trade inventory & government spending and you have “Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers”. This is underlying demand growth.
Q2 was 1.2%, a step back of 0.7% from Q1.”
Weak demand growth for Q2, behind Q1 and a mile behind LY.
3 months of weak job data.
5 months of manufacturing contraction.
as for consumer spending, 0.1% after being adjusted for inflation.
yeh Trump is really “winning”.
Fuck me, you’ve got adjustments for your adjustments.
strip this out and strip that out and you’re still nowhere near stagflation or the sky falling in. And all this with absolutely no help from the Fed, in fact the opposite. This is what real capitalism looks like, not that Crony capitalism that heavily relies on the Fed to constantly step in and pick winners and losers.
Trumps making all the right moves, nobody said it was gonna happen over night or that it would be plain sailing but at the end of the day it’ll be worth it, especially for the middle and working class.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 01 Aug 2025, 23:23
by Jaan Kenbrovin
It's funny watching the so called 'experts' in the US that predicted Trump's tariffs would cause an immediate recession, now walking it back saying it's too early to predict an outcome. These are the same 'experts' Biden used to talk up his 'Bidenomics' nonsense, that basically involved lying to the public by redefining the term recession.
It's a shame Capitol Man isn't around, to see what level of vitriolic insanity he would be spouting against Trump's trade deal successes, and more to the point, the desperate denial he'd have to take to spin the Obama/Clinton Russia hoax that he blindly parroted which is now being exposed.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 01 Aug 2025, 23:15
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 21:10
Don’t like the weak jobs data? Just fire the people who gave you the bad news, that’ll solve it.
Yeah this is the retard who overstated Biden’s jobs numbers by over 818,000.
She was way off again this year she is obviously clueless. We need credibility in the economic data, this retard deserved to get fired she was way off constantly.
stop reading the propaganda bollox from the propaganda networks ffs, how many more times.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
He's not removing trade barriers - tarriffs are trade barriers!
The investments are not guaranteed. Brilliant if it comes off. I would literally take my hat off to him if investments quoted are true. I just dont think they are. Like I said if you beleive he can get drug prices down 1000% then you can beleive his investment numbers.
Consumer sentiment is up from a low in April but down 7% from a year ago under Biden. You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
You have no idea what you are talking about
You think tarrifs are not a barrier to trade?
You think all Trumps posturing about $bns of investments are all true and guaranteed.
You think consumer sentiment is up because its higher than Trumps previous months yet 7% lower than it was 12months ago under Sleepy Joe.
and....
You think I dont know what Im talking about!?
Ha ha you are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue.
Twice you’ve mentioned Trump saying he would drop drug prices 1000% that is not the entire statement.
He referenced Ozempic costing approx $85 in the UK but close to $1,100 in the USA for the exact same product. He said at have we done to deserve that? From now on we (meaning the USA will no longer be the suckers who pay the most we will now pay the least) I make him right.
Tariffs were already in place AGAINST the USA from other countries and in addition there were trade restrictions against USA products that have all now been lifted. Do the USA can trade in these countries without restriction. That is what I mean with trade barriers.
Yes, I do think Trump is bringing in Trullions in new investments, 100%.
As for consumer sentiment you can pick any period of time to find a win, example I could go back to a number of any different months and Inflation was much higher than it is today, over 8% in some months. I don’t do that though, why? Because it’s a retarded argument.
You are definitely Pickle, no doubt about it!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Lol ThickClit..
so pleading not guilty is actually guilty lol
Witch witch drown the witch
Medieval flat earth moron
Is this a court? Has he enter a plea you simple ginger nonce?
It's a common behaviour when caught in a lie to go to extreme lengths to protect the lie. Like when you deny raping spastic 3rd World children in trees...
Is this a court?...yep kangaroo one
couples of points...WTF makes you say I'm ginger?????
Also as for the nonce allegations could you please forward them to the Met as I'm currently going through the DBS checks and let's see who gets nicked...you or me?
Whomail me and I'll give you the reference details to forward to plod...this could be hilarious
I now know how Farage feels but according to you l must be denying it too much so guilty
The only DBS in your life stands for disabled baby snatcher.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Actually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
He's not removing trade barriers - tarriffs are trade barriers!
The investments are not guaranteed. Brilliant if it comes off. I would literally take my hat off to him if investments quoted are true. I just dont think they are. Like I said if you beleive he can get drug prices down 1000% then you can beleive his investment numbers.
Consumer sentiment is up from a low in April but down 7% from a year ago under Biden. You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
You have no idea what you are talking about
You think tarrifs are not a barrier to trade?
You think all Trumps posturing about $bns of investments are all true and guaranteed.
You think consumer sentiment is up because its higher than Trumps previous months yet 7% lower than it was 12months ago under Sleepy Joe.
and....
You think I dont know what Im talking about!?
Ha ha you are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Actually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
I laid out the demand weakness in the GDP figures, you side-stepped it because you couldn't answer the question.
he's not bringing inflation down, in fact he is deliberately making decisions that push inflation up.
same with the debt, taking deliberate decisions that everyone knows will increase that debt.
I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.
You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.
Poor Goose
Weak consumer demand I said.
This was my exact post from the day before:
”Strip out trade inventory & government spending and you have “Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers”. This is underlying demand growth.
Q2 was 1.2%, a step back of 0.7% from Q1.”
Weak demand growth for Q2, behind Q1 and a mile behind LY.
3 months of weak job data.
5 months of manufacturing contraction.
as for consumer spending, 0.1% after being adjusted for inflation.
yeh Trump is really “winning”.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lol
Actually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
He's not removing trade barriers - tarriffs are trade barriers!
The investments are not guaranteed. Brilliant if it comes off. I would literally take my hat off to him if investments quoted are true. I just dont think they are. Like I said if you beleive he can get drug prices down 1000% then you can beleive his investment numbers.
Consumer sentiment is up from a low in April but down 7% from a year ago under Biden. You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
You have no idea what you are talking about
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lol
Actually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
I laid out the demand weakness in the GDP figures, you side-stepped it because you couldn't answer the question.
he's not bringing inflation down, in fact he is deliberately making decisions that push inflation up.
same with the debt, taking deliberate decisions that everyone knows will increase that debt.
I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.
You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.
Poor Goose
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 01 Aug 2025, 21:10
by goose
Don’t like the weak jobs data? Just fire the people who gave you the bad news, that’ll solve it.
Uptick Inflation puts us at an inflation rate not seen since Feb. We are still way better off than we were under Biden and a minor up tick is a small price to pay when you look at the trade deals Trump is bringing in.
As for the Job numbers they are immigrant job losses. Which explains why we finally have wage growth. Again a temporary and welcomed development in our job market.
As anyone with half a brain knows and as I’ve explained to you a dozen times or more, the manufacturing Jobs and new Jobs of which there will be plenty won’t show up yet as Factories, plants and warehouses have to be built. It will happen or are you denying that all these companies won’t be moving production into the ISA to get around the Tariffs?
Lets see, Trillions in new investments, removal of trade Barriers and an estimated $300 Billion per year plus in Tariff revenue, all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA.
Yeah A major win for the US I’d say and all this achieved without any help from the Fed.
Poor Goose continues to major in minors.
funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lol
Actually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
He's not removing trade barriers - tarriffs are trade barriers!
The investments are not guaranteed. Brilliant if it comes off. I would literally take my hat off to him if investments quoted are true. I just dont think they are. Like I said if you beleive he can get drug prices down 1000% then you can beleive his investment numbers.
Consumer sentiment is up from a low in April but down 7% from a year ago under Biden. You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
such a great judge of character arent you Moyes and Trump jeez!
you are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue. 
You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
(again)