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Posted: **10 Mar 2016, 09:51**

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting ¬£18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 19:02**

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Nov 2024, 18:37
Yeah, I get it IoC. Although I do think he's a consistent force when you can get him on the field. It's probably his past injuries - and the Saints' salary cap issues - that meant Washington picked him up for a decent 'price'.

How are you going to replace him? He's not irreplaceable, but you'll need a top talent to come in as CB1. Might that be where they look in the draft? Tough one for the Saints, because the cap problems mean you'll have to rely on a higher percentage (than normal) of younger players for a while. But I guess the good thing is you can go straight into a serious and wide-ranging rebuild with the draft picks.

I don't know, overall, its always been riding the cap to stay competitive for a bunch of years. Totally new coach, that probably change some how. Things look awful for next year as they always do but maybe we just go with what we got instead of the masterful kicking the can down the road.

Longterm at at least, cornerback is not the worst position though. Alontae Taylor who was playing the nickel is okay, Adebo is done for the season but is actually a better ballhawk than Lattimore. Kool-Aid is coming along. More worried about other bits on the defence, at least after this season.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 18:37**

ironsofcanada wrote: ↑08 Nov 2024, 15:54
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Nov 2024, 11:46
Four pro bowls in five years seems pretty consistent to me. Especially when you look at the yardage he (generally doesn't) give up even in the seasons since that run. He's a steal for those picks - providing he doesn't see the Commanders as the start of him easing down. I get that most CBs have bad days. Those that don't - like Revis - are few and far between.

I have loved Lattimore, most of the time.
My opinion comes from watching him every week for the last 2 years. (Mostly highlights and the odd game when I was in England before that.)
Consistent is not the word I would use, amazing a lot of the time, would be the phrase.

But he has been in the league 7 years before this one. Not 5 . So he has been a Pro Bowler in about half time. That's not consistent. You can say injuries held him back but that another mark against consistency for me.

He is one of the best in the league when on, but he is not always there or on.

Again good luck to them and him.

Yeah, I get it IoC. Although I do think he's a consistent force when you can get him on the field. It's probably his past injuries - and the Saints' salary cap issues - that meant Washington picked him up for a decent 'price'.

How are you going to replace him? He's not irreplaceable, but you'll need a top talent to come in as CB1. Might that be where they look in the draft? Tough one for the Saints, because the cap problems mean you'll have to rely on a higher percentage (than normal) of younger players for a while. But I guess the good thing is you can go straight into a serious and wide-ranging rebuild with the draft picks.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 15:54**

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Nov 2024, 11:46
Four pro bowls in five years seems pretty consistent to me. Especially when you look at the yardage he (generally doesn't) give up even in the seasons since that run. He's a steal for those picks - providing he doesn't see the Commanders as the start of him easing down. I get that most CBs have bad days. Those that don't - like Revis - are few and far between.

I have loved Lattimore, most of the time.
My opinion comes from watching him every week for the last 2 years. (Mostly highlights and the odd game when I was in England before that.)
Consistent is not the word I would use, amazing a lot of the time, would be the phrase.

But he has been in the league 7 years before this one. Not 5 . So he has been a Pro Bowler in about half time. That's not consistent. You can say injuries held him back but that another mark against consistency for me.

He is one of the best in the league when on, but he is not always there or on.

Again good luck to them and him.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 14:24**

Imagine having a backfield that had Revis and either Deion or Green at CB, with Ronnie Lott and Ed Reed as safeties.

"We'll probably just run the ball today, folks: little point putting the ball in the air."

And Lott and Reed would still register several sacks!

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 14:18**

Ronnie Lott was incredible, although he played more regularly as a safety. I think he started out life as a cornerback (for three seasons, IIRC?).

The sort that would knock your bones out of your body when he tackled.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 13:15**

he's in my top ten ever. him and singletary were on another level

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 12:52**

Ronnie Lott must be in with a shout as a safety or corner?

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 12:46**

An espn journalist talking to one of our best beat reporters yesterday said his best trait is a short memory, hopefully he's ready for the eagles game thursday

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 12:20**

I read this week that QBs throwing towards Revis in that 2009 season would have received an average passer rating of 32.3.

As a QB, you could spike the ball into the ground on every single play and get a higher passer rating.

Revis was a cheat code - and a huge part of Ryan's defensive success. Although Rex will tell you that he had to coach Revis into that level, which is probably true.

This has all come up again only because Ryan seems to be angling for a return to the NFL.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 12:11**

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑08 Nov 2024, 12:06 Speaking of Revis, there's been a lot of talk about him on the Jets boards again - due to the discussion about what Rex Ryan (angling for a comeback) achieved with such a shite franchise.

Take another look at his 2009 season. Now THAT is a cornerback. That season will rarely, if ever, be repeated. The guy shut down 11 pro-bowl receivers in 19 games that season. The other 8 weren't even competition.

And he didn't just shut down great receivers, he absolutely dominated them physically and mentally. It's still the highest- graded season ever by a cornerback - and they adjusted the gradings to give modern CBs a chance. He stopped the following receivers from getting more than 35 yards: Andre Johnson, Randy Moss (twice), Marques Colston, Terrell Owens (twice), Torry Holt, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne. He stopped all-pro Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) making a single catch: zero yards. Dominated them all.

In two games, Randy Moss caught just nine receptions for 58 yards. And he had Tom Brady throwing him the ball.

Chad Johnson: "That 2009 f**king season will never ever, ever be replicated. That's impossible."

I know others will reach for Deion and Green - both amazing CBs, no question. But there will never be another pre-knee injury Revis. If you're picking the greatest NFL defense of all time, it's just a case of which CB plays on the other side from Revis Island.

Randy Moss was pretty good for the Vikings, then got caught pulling his pants down.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 12:09**

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑08 Nov 2024, 11:53 SB, listened to Terry Mclaurin yesterday who was with him at Ohio State when they won the college championship. He said he may come across as quiet and a bit of a loner, but it's because he's such a hard worker. A New Orleans journalist said the exact same thing a couple of days ago when asked about his character. He's got the perfect coaches now if that's the case

He's a good acquisition for an improving team, TM. Exciting times in Washington.

I get what Irons of Canada is saying. But most CB1s have up and down days. Because they're generally matched-up against the opponent's best receiver. I remember Deion saying that he was never "just" playing his receiver - he was playing the QB and receiver in combination, because as the leading CB you have to learn how to shut down both so that the QB doesn't want to throw towards you any more.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 12:06**

Speaking of Revis, there's been a lot of talk about him on the Jets boards again - due to the discussion about what Rex Ryan (angling for a comeback) achieved with such a shite franchise.

Take another look at his 2009 season. Now THAT is a cornerback. That season will rarely, if ever, be repeated. The guy shut down 11 pro-bowl receivers in 19 games that season. The other 8 weren't even competition.

And he didn't just shut down great receivers, he absolutely dominated them physically and mentally. It's still the highest- graded season ever by a cornerback - and they adjusted the gradings to give modern CBs a chance. He stopped the following receivers from getting more than 35 yards: Andre Johnson, Randy Moss (twice), Marques Colston, Terrell Owens (twice), Torry Holt, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne. He stopped all-pro Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) making a single catch: zero yards. Dominated them all.

In two games, Randy Moss caught just nine receptions for 58 yards. And he had Tom Brady throwing him the ball.

Chad Johnson: "That 2009 f**king season will never ever, ever be replicated. That's impossible."

I know others will reach for Deion and Green - both amazing CBs, no question. But there will never be another pre-knee injury Revis. If you're picking the greatest NFL defense of all time, it's just a case of which CB plays on the other side from Revis Island.

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 11:53**

SB, listened to Terry Mclaurin yesterday who was with him at Ohio State when they won the college championship. He said he may come across as quiet and a bit of a loner, but it's because he's such a hard worker. A New Orleans journalist said the exact same thing a couple of days ago when asked about his character. He's got the perfect coaches now if that's the case

Posted: **08 Nov 2024, 11:46**

ironsofcanada wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 15:33
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 23:17 If he stays fit, Lattimore is a steal for the Commanders, TM. Especially for those trade picks.

A really solid and consistent cornerback.

He not really that consistent to be honest.

He can be amazing or can be pretty off.

I like the Commanders, good luck to him and them.

Looking forward to a real new start next year with the Saints, I guess. You saw that Carr and especially Kamara are more than servicable with a healthy decent OL. But you need healthy receivers. We will see.

My fantasy stuff is in the toilet as well.

Need West Ham (or Canada - though very limit opportunities) to pick up the slack and bring me some winter cheer.

Four pro bowls in five years seems pretty consistent to me. Especially when you look at the yardage he (generally doesn't) give up even in the seasons since that run. He's a steal for those picks - providing he doesn't see the Commanders as the start of him easing down. I get that most CBs have bad days. Those that don't - like Revis - are few and far between.

Posted: **06 Nov 2024, 18:55**

zebthecat wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 21:07 Ridiculous from Drake Maye.

It was unbelievable!

Posted: **06 Nov 2024, 17:56**

Have you seen his stats, IOC? They're ridiculous.

Just a shame that he's not quite back from a hamstring which means I probably won't see him in person when I go to my first home game on Sunday

Posted: **06 Nov 2024, 15:33**

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 23:17 If he stays fit, Lattimore is a steal for the Commanders, TM. Especially for those trade picks.

A really solid and consistent cornerback.

He not really that consistent to be honest.

He can be amazing or can be pretty off.

I like the Commanders, good luck to him and them.

Looking forward to a real new start next year with the Saints, I guess. You saw that Carr and especially Kamara are more than servicable with a healthy decent OL. But you need healthy receivers. We will see.

My fantasy stuff is in the toilet as well.

Need West Ham (or Canada - though very limit opportunities) to pick up the slack and bring me some winter cheer.

Posted: **05 Nov 2024, 23:25**

SB, yes it's a great value trade for us. The Saints have such a deficit on their cap, they have to make moves and we were short a CB1. Also helps he played with Mclaurin at Ohio State. We also enquired after your player DJ Reed but no joy there

Posted: **05 Nov 2024, 23:17**

If he stays fit, Lattimore is a steal for the Commanders, TM. Especially for those trade picks.

A really solid and consistent cornerback.

Posted: **05 Nov 2024, 22:22**

Been hearing the Lattimore link for over a week, couple of regular posters on content creators called it. He's probably been in contact with Terry & Noah Brown

Posted: **05 Nov 2024, 21:22**

What a signing. I didn't think they'd go for anybody, but Peters comes up trumps again.

Posted: **05 Nov 2024, 18:07**

Posted: **04 Nov 2024, 08:52**

Normal service has resumed and the wheels have totally fallen off our season.

Bye week next week, and then we haven’t won the game after that for about 10 years now. So naturally it’s the 49ers away.

Maybe we can spend the next two weeks teaching our O line to look at the QB in case he throws them the ball. Basic stuff, but we managed to fuck that up repeatedly last night

Posted: **03 Nov 2024, 23:12**

Posted: **03 Nov 2024, 21:07**

Ridiculous from Drake Maye.

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