NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Hearing a lot more ppl talk about McCarthy as a possible Jets coach - so perhaps it will happen. I had sort of dismissed the idea because he doesn't seem to be a New York kind of guy. But if he's happy to come to East Rutherford, then he's got to be a strong option for Gang Green. Sam Darnold needs guidance, and McCarthy has worked with, and improved, Favre and Rodgers. He also sorted out the messy situation created by the handover between Favre and Rodgers (the two did not get on, according to reports). And, let's face it, there's no bigger mess in the NFL than the Jets of the past eight seasons! I had McCarthy down as a possible for Cleveland, because of Baker Mayfield (who must look like an attractive asset to any coach). Cleveland is also a smaller and less intrusive city, which would suit a guy coming out of Green Bay. But I'll take him in New York if Woody is prepared to back him. He's still an upgrade on Todd Bowles, despite going a little stale in Green Bay. Perhaps the change of scene will do him the world of good."

[Far Cough]

That Seahawks kit made me puke

[ironsofcanada]

"The Seahawks deserved to lose, only based on those uniforms alone. Reminds me of something I would wear in the late 80s."

[southbankbornnbred]

Poor decision - it was obviously a penalty. Gotta feel for the Vikes.

[Far Cough]

"Thanks Mike, I never saw it but still..."

[Takashi Miike]

"illegal block cough, but it seems the rules don't matter for certain teams like the seahawks and the cowboy cunts"

[Far Cough]

That's our fucking season over then

[southbankbornnbred]

"Just checked - the Jets traded their first and second round picks to Cleveland so that they could take Sanchex at #5 in 2009. If they'd waited, they could have taken Clay Matthews at LB in the first round, LeSean McCoy at RB in the second round and Mike Wallace at WR in the third. It would have left them without a decent, young QB - but there were a few veterans available in free agency at the time who were at last the equivalent of Sanchez. Lesson: unless you really are fecking desperate in a particular position (as the Jets were at QB this year), take the best player on the board."

[JustAFatKevinDavies]

Baker Mayfield > the rest

[Takashi Miike]

"we were never meant to get anything out of him, what team has two quarterbacks break legs inside three weeks? that he was signed in the first place is the biggest insult but the even bigger insult is having an owner like snyder and a lapdog cսnt gm like allen. it's been a disaster since he bought the club"

[southbankbornnbred]

"The Skins will get almost nothing out of Mark Sanchez...because there is almost nothing in there! He promised a lot when at college, but was never anything more than average even at his 'peak'. But the worst thing that ever happened to him (and one of the worst things to happen to the hapless Jets for a good twenty years) was when Rex Ryan and the backroom team traded up to get him at #5 in the 2009 draft. From the Jets perspective, they overspent on him massively - he was never worth the trade-up. And that meant they passed on good players such as Clay Matthews in that draft. Once Matt Stafford was off the board, there were no other good QBs, so the premium for even average QBs was very high. After Stafford and Sanchez, the next best QB in the draft was Josh Freeman - so you can see it wasn't a draft blessed with QB talent. That all put a lot of pressure on a pretty average QB at the Jets, which - as a franchise - had no offensive nous at all (Ryan is a superb defensive coach, but did not have a clue how to run an offense and nor did his support team). So an at-best 'decent' and mostly average QB was left to try to carry a team with traditionally poor offensive records. He actually did OK for the first two years, but then he got found out and, without decent weapons, he was totally exposed. From Sanchez's perspective, Ryan was not the coach he should have gone to play for. Other NFL coaches would at least have knocked him into shape a little more. Instead, he was left to do his own thing - and he was talented enough for that. So his form and confidence fell off a cliff after two seasons. And then the Butt Fumble happened and we all pissed ourselves laughing at the all-round incompetence. You have no hope with Sanchez. He'll flatter to deceive you in the odd game, but he just doesn't have the capacity/talent."

[Far Cough]

El Scorchio 3:03 Mon Dec 10 Re: 2016 NFL Season Haha

[crystal falace]

"Yeah Gordon has caught almost everything thrown his way, seems to have learnt the playbook very quickly too which a lot of people struggle with in New England. He's not quite the athletic freak he used to be put still plenty fast enough to gain enough separation where he can then use his size and strength to do the rest."

[ooooh Morley Morley]

"re Sanchez.... How the fuck do you review and assess various available QBs and yet you still come up with Sanchez as your candidate. What a clusterfuck that was... Doug Williams is still in the franchise, he was a better option."

[southbankbornnbred]

"CF, Yep, I hear that. Gordon has very good hands. And quite how Gronk stands up these days is beyond me - his knees must be fecked. I'm no fan of the Patsies, but he is one tough son of a *****."

[On The Ball]

Takashi Miike 12:44 Mon Dec 10 Things certainly seemed to lift as soon as Sanchez was benched.

[El Scorchio]

Far Cough 12:20 No it wasn't- they didn't pass it forward :)

[crystal falace]

"Yeah I get that, but even if you're going to go with that strategy I would probably rather had Josh Gordon on the field as he's a far better athlete who's standing jump probably means he can get higher than Gronk, and he's not playing through several injuries like Gronk is this year."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Let's face it, Belichick doesn't make too many bad calls. Unfortunately (I still seethe over his leaving the Jets ""on a napkin""!). ;-)"

[southbankbornnbred]

"But CF, remember, many hail mary passes don't make it to the end zone. We just tend to remember those that do - because they make for TDs and incredible moments. Often when there's just a second or two left on the clock, it's more of a huge heave downfield with, at best, a pass being caught by the offensive side 20 or so yards out - the hope being that any receiver might then, by some miracle, make it to the end zone. It's always a desperation call because the chances of being picked off are so high. You always put your big, agile guys with good hands down the field when the opposition lines it up. That's why Gronk was there. He just got out ran by a quicker guy when they two laterals worked."

[Takashi Miike]

"gruden's post match press conference was painful. i've never seen a coach with a redder face, and the constant neck rubbing showed how wound up he was. when a group of players stop giving a shit, it's time for a change"

[Far Cough]

"Unbelievable, Miami with all those laterals, were playing like the All Blacks on that last play"

[Grumpster]

Most NFL QB's worth a wank can throw the ball 70 yards if on the move and accuracy isn't needed. That fucker Mahomes can throw it 80 yards kneeling down!

[Grumpster]

"The massive issue I had with the Fins winning TD, was that the cameras didn't pan in on either Brady or Belichek's faces afterwards to see their scowls! :o)"

[crystal falace]

Just don't thinkt here was ever going to be any way where Tannehill would be able to thro a hail Mary 70 yards in the air which is what he would have had to do for it to be a jump ball in the end zone