Max Kilman

[Eerie Decent]

This lad is a real problem.

At £40mil, it's getting to the point of worst ever signing territory. The worst crime in football is hiding, centre back is probably the one position you can half get away with it, but not for too long. Shirks taking responsibility, who imo makes him worse than Mavropanos, at least he fronts up, which can lead to mistakes. Kilman doesn't, so it doesn't get highlighted.

We've obviously got a massive overhaul in the summer, but for me, he is the biggest problem in our team and we need to cut our losses if we can. It took a while to spot, because he hides, but you can't fool people for too long. Wolves fans told us, some wouldn't have it, but they were dead right. Absolute fraud of a player.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Makes Gary Breen look like Paolo Maldini.

[Gary Strodders shank]

A seven year contract is ridiculous and stinks to be honest

Wasn't there some sort of wrangling over Maidenheads cut between the three clubs where they took a lesser percentage so the deal would go through ?

At 28 ,this deal should take him up to the end of his career although it would appear the pipe and slippers are out already and a Zimmer frame not to far behind.

Apart from the clubs total incompetence in signing such a dud the thing that disappoints me the most is having been awarded such a deal his apparent lack of professionalism pride and reluctance to leave everything on the pitch and training ground to at least try and improve his level of performance.

To even see him scythe someone down in frustration or lose his rag out there would be some sign of a pulse.





 

[WHUDeano]

I think with all things considered, Kilman must currently be regarded as the worst signing in our history. 

[eusebiovic]

Not that we needed it, but if you wanted yet another glaring example of Sullivan and Brady's weapons-grade stupidity, the Kilman fee and contract take you straight there.

So whenever you see him "switch off" again, as Gary O'Neill, his former manager would say, just think of low-grade decision-makers like Loppy, Sullivan and Brady rubbing their hands with glee.

 

 

They have no capacity to learn the error of their ways...

C Wilson
Kilman
Ings
Wilshire
Winston Reid (decent enough defender given a beast of an over generous, long term contract)
Carlos Sanchez
Chicharito (the little Mexican)
Andy Carroll 

That's just half a dozen or so off the top of my head...there are countless others...they simply refuse to fucking learn. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

The most depressing thing about Kilman isn't even that we paid £40m for an absolute ringer. It's that we gave him a SEVEN year contract on 100k a week, and he's just over a year into that contract.

Unless we are relegated and another side is nuclear-grade stupid enough to pay decent money for him, and to him, we are quite likely to have Kilman on our books for years. It'll be a much longer version of Danny Ings: he's got absolutely no incentive to move on. Nobody else will pay him 100k a week. And absolutely nobody will pay him £30m for another six years.

The fee (£40m) was a truly appalling decision. The contract and wages (£35m+) are almost criminal.

There's a good chance we will still be complaining about Kilman and his wages in 2031.

(PS - I don't blame Max Kilman for signing that contract, btw. In his shoes, I would have signed it faster than you could blink).

It's such a ludicrous contract that I wouldn't be at all surprised, given the way the club operates, if a percentage of that fee/those wages vanishes into brown envelopes that then make their surreptitious way back to certain board members who may have sanctioned the purchase

[southbankbornnbred]

Not that we needed it, but if you wanted yet another glaring example of Sullivan and Brady's weapons-grade stupidity, the Kilman fee and contract take you straight there.

So whenever you see him "switch off" again, as Gary O'Neill, his former manager would say, just think of low-grade decision-makers like Loppy, Sullivan and Brady rubbing their hands with glee.

[southbankbornnbred]

The most depressing thing about Kilman isn't even that we paid £40m for an absolute ringer. It's that we gave him a SEVEN year contract on 100k a week, and he's just over a year into that contract.

Unless we are relegated and another side is nuclear-grade stupid enough to pay decent money for him, and to him, we are quite likely to have Kilman on our books for years. It'll be a much longer version of Danny Ings: he's got absolutely no incentive to move on. Nobody else will pay him 100k a week. And absolutely nobody will pay him £30m for another six years.

The fee (£40m) was a truly appalling decision. The contract and wages (£35m+) are almost criminal.

There's a good chance we will still be complaining about Kilman and his wages in 2031.

(PS - I don't blame Max Kilman for signing that contract, btw. In his shoes, I would have signed it faster than you could blink).

[honky cat]

Gary O Neil is just pointing out what every coach and player in the league would know about Kilman. Every attacking player just waiting for him to switch off for a minute and then go for it.

Played every single game for us since signing?  An automatic selection every time, never fighting for his place, never coming back from injury or suspension and having to dislodge another player. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I'm struggling to think of a player (we've bought)  that needs to prove his worth more that this guy.

[ragingbull]

Obviously a spanner has being thrown in his engine.

[Keep dreaming]

If Mads Harmansen was sent to bench for his contribution, Max Kilman should be sent to the fucking butcher's.

The only positive with him is his name.

[eusebiovic]

Todibo was bought to be a ball playing CB in a 3 man unit. His distribution and ball carrying from deep are what got him noticed eventually but aerially and physically aint really his game and in the Prem athleticism, speed and strength are pre requisites nowadays.  Most of our players are wanting in yhat respect.  A huge “Rice shaped hole” was never filled and we are paying for it now big time

A sweeper without portfolio.

Marvellous! 

[El Scorchio]

Last season everyone was cunting off poor Mavvers when this dickhead was the real problem. Terrible player, we need to wipe our mouth and take the hit in january. Just throwing good money after bad. Has he missed a single game? Why is he not being dropped.
The player we should have signed from Wolves  was playing last night - Collins.

 

Mav is still shit as well, mind. The problem with him is that he can be decent/competent for almost all of a game but then do something absolutely stupid and cost us a goal or give away a penalty- case in point the end of the Everton game when he was fucking lucky not to after being an absolute bonehead in getting us right in trouble. He seems to have one horrendous ricket in him every single game. You cannot rely on a single one of them to actually be solid for 90 minutes. 

[Gary Strodders shank]

When was the last time a centre half actually got on the scoresheet for us ?

Aguard ? 
Zouma ?..
Mav ?

Kilman and Tobido are so fking lazy I'm not sure they even bother coming up for corners anymore.
 

[Keep dreaming]

Well there is a heck of players we Should have signed.
 

[honky cat]

Last season everyone was cunting off poor Mavvers when this dickhead was the real problem. Terrible player, we need to wipe our mouth and take the hit in january. Just throwing good money after bad. Has he missed a single game? Why is he not being dropped.
The player we should have signed from Wolves  was playing last night - Collins.
 

[Keep dreaming]

Yeah, everyone can look good on a edited YouTube clip.

[Massive Attack]

If you look up Todibo on You Tube the clips show a totally different player.  Maybe he got more time in the other Leagues or as you say he just isn't arsed over here.

 

 

Maybe because the clips are condensed into 4 minutes and not over the course of a game where he rarely lasts an hour. I reckon Iain Dowie might look decent in only 2 minutes of action. Ok that's maybe stretching it but principle still stands.

[Keep dreaming]

Todibo was bought to be a ball playing CB in a 3 man unit. His distribution and ball carrying from deep are what got him noticed eventually but aerially and physically aint really his game and in the Prem athleticism, speed and strength are pre requisites nowadays.  Most of our players are wanting in yhat respect.  A huge “Rice shaped hole” was never filled and we are paying for it now big time

Maybe stick him in midfield and Tomas at the back!  

Or maybe remove them both.
Not fit for the shirt, Potts and Adiele should be the starters from now on.
Unfortunately, the clubs incompetence is beyond belief 

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

I'm guessing the title of this thread is also the answer to 'who is the biggest waste of space you've seen in  claret and blue over the past 20 years'?
Where do I collect my fiver?

[zico]

Todibo was bought to be a ball playing CB in a 3 man unit. His distribution and ball carrying from deep are what got him noticed eventually but aerially and physically aint really his game and in the Prem athleticism, speed and strength are pre requisites nowadays.  Most of our players are wanting in yhat respect.  A huge “Rice shaped hole” was never filled and we are paying for it now big time

Maybe stick him in midfield and Tomas at the back!  

[Sir Alf]

Todibo was bought to be a ball playing CB in a 3 man unit. His distribution and ball carrying from deep are what got him noticed eventually but aerially and physically aint really his game and in the Prem athleticism, speed and strength are pre requisites nowadays.  Most of our players are wanting in yhat respect.  A huge “Rice shaped hole” was never filled and we are paying for it now big time

[zico]

If you look up Todibo on You Tube the clips show a totally different player.  Maybe he got more time in the other Leagues or as you say he just isn't arsed over here.

[El Scorchio]

Yup, Todibo without question has talent but cannot be arsed. Clearly doesn't bother getting/staying match fit and is a woeful decision maker- that dive in far too far up the pitch where he totally missed and they were away in the second half sums him up.

Mav tries but just isn't very good and is a calamity waiting to happen every single match
Kilman is lazy and doesn't concentrate
Todibo is lazy and doesn't give a shit

Those are our centre backs gentlemen. 90 million quid's worth. I'm not even bothering to mention the glorified coathanger we got from Brighton.

[Massive Attack]

The dope is definitely sharing sneaky reefers with Kilman in the showers when no cunts looking. Why else wear a nose plaster to aid breathing when he's clearly allergic to running the lazy cսnt.