Brighton vs West Ham | PL | 7.12.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

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Well it's a fast turnaround for this one.  After a hard fought, but somewhat disappointing point at Old Trafford, we head to the south coast for an arguably more difficult looking game on paper.

Brighton have been a bogey side since they arrived in the division, as well as being the envy of many fans for their progressive owner and stellar recruitment model.

Teamwise, Nuno gets to 'bring' Paqueta back (I won't use the term 'welcome'), and the messaging around Summerville remains opaque at best.  Plus as to what happened to Guilherme who knows, but with both him and Igor missing we went from a squad of 3 Braziliians to none versus Man Utd in one fell swoop.

This leaves at least a decision around Soucek, but if Summerville (or Guilherme) were to be available, another decision around 2 of 3 from Fernandes, Magassa, and Potts.

Predicted Lineup

I'm working on the basis that Paqueta will come back in, and Summerville will at best be fit for the bench:

Areola

Wan Bissaka  Mavropanos  Todibo  Diouf

Magassa  Potts

Bowen   Paqueta   Fernandes

Wilson

Subs:  Hermansen, Kilman, KWP, Irving, Kante, Earthy, Guilherme, Summerville, Marshall

Predicted Score:  Brighton 2 - 1 West Ham

Brighton remain high up in the current form table, scoring twice as many as they concede.  West Ham are midtable over the last 5 games, are at a scoring ratio of roughly 1:1.

Hard to see anything but a defeat here, but we have a punchers chance (all be it, the blows themselves are fairly lightweight and will need to find the Brighton chin with surgical precision to knock them out).

[Mex Martillo]

I want to see some more of Marshall.

[Sir Alf]

Would like to see Earthy given minutes as I think he is closest to breaking thru although Kante’s sheer physicality obviously means aint too far away either.

Paqueta just needs to play more for the team.  Release  it earlier and get his decision making right on when to hit one of those dinked/lofted balls over the top or a threaded ball when he’s crowded out. Nothing wrong with a simple 5 yard ball sometimes to keep possession rather than the “Hollywood pass” all the time. 

Ideally we would have someone ready to step in but our squad is so flimsy that we almost have to start him or its one of the kids.  Paqueta is strong on shielding the ball and in the air. Id stick him out wide right in the role Soucek filled and let Fernandes operate more centrally where he is more effective. But Paqueta is just one of those prima donnas and simply thinks he’s better than he is and managers seem to buy into his reputation ( Brazilian international who occasionally produces moments of re quality).   Cannot see Summerville starting so it will he same team imo but with Paq replacing Soucek 

[nychammer]

Let's hope we don't go in 1-0 up at half time as we know the cowardly surrender monkey (no it's not racist its a term coined about the French and yes I know he,s not French, right thats that covered) will then sub Wilson for a centre back and try and hold on. Still fuming he did that on Thursday after we equalised and had the Manc cunts on the ropes.

Nonut's patented half time surrender. Can't fucking wait to see that again.

i didn't get it either. We looked so much more comfortable pushing forward and trying to attack and actually had a couple of half chances to snatch it. As soon as we sit deep and try to defend we look vulnerable and could have thrown it away

[THUNDERCLINT]

Let's hope we don't go in 1-0 up at half time as we know the cowardly surrender monkey (no it's not racist its a term coined about the French and yes I know he,s not French, right thats that covered) will then sub Wilson for a centre back and try and hold on. Still fuming he did that on Thursday after we equalised and had the Manc cunts on the ropes.

Nonut's patented half time surrender. Can't fucking wait to see that again.

[THUNDERCLINT]

No we've won 2 of our last 5 he played in 3 of them 2 which we won one which we lost the other 2 we didn't win. 

And over the last year rather than the last few?

I've no idea, but surely recent form is more relevant we've won 2 out of 3 he's played in and drawn the 2 he hasn't... Plus he has a higher ball retention than the whole team did Thursday so can't be accused of lowering it when he starts, I bet his ball retention is at least 20% better than Soucek... Oh and he had our best defensive stats this season and he's equal top scorer which of course all points to his inclusion weakening is. 
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If Soucek had half of Crapaqueta's abilty he'd be talked about for generations because he grafts and puts the team first, unlike the other cսnt.

[THUNDERCLINT]

We had 70% pass completion the other day, not exactly keeping the ball is it.

Paqueta is at 79% how does he bring it down? 

If you're going to drop percentages quote a source so they can be easily checked. I'm not wasting my time searching or taking your word for it.

[boleyn8420]

Let's hope we don't go in 1-0 up at half time as we know the cowardly surrender monkey (no it's not racist its a term coined about the French and yes I know he,s not French, right thats that covered) will then sub Wilson for a centre back and try and hold on. Still fuming he did that on Thursday after we equalised and had the Manc cunts on the ropes.

[fraser]

Only one selection question here isn't there?

If Summerville is fit I'd put him in instead of Soucek.

If he isn't, maybe give Earthy or Kante a go.

Paqueta shouldn't walk back into the team.

Isn't it a fact that over the last year or so we've been a lot more effective in terms of getting results when he doesn't play/start, than when he does?




 

No we've won 2 of our last 5 he played in 3 of them 2 which we won one which we lost the other 2 we didn't win. 

And over the last year rather than the last few?

I've no idea, but surely recent form is more relevant we've won 2 out of 3 he's played in and drawn the 2 he hasn't... Plus he has a higher ball retention than the whole team did Thursday so can't be accused of lowering it when he starts, I bet his ball retention is at least 20% better than Soucek... Oh and he had our best defensive stats this season and he's equal top scorer which of course all points to his inclusion weakening is. 
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[Sweep]

Only one selection question here isn't there?

If Summerville is fit I'd put him in instead of Soucek.

If he isn't, maybe give Earthy or Kante a go.

Paqueta shouldn't walk back into the team.

Isn't it a fact that over the last year or so we've been a lot more effective in terms of getting results when he doesn't play/start, than when he does?



 

No we've won 2 of our last 5 he played in 3 of them 2 which we won one which we lost the other 2 we didn't win. 

And over the last year rather than the last few?

[GBHammer63]

Only one selection question here isn't there?

If Summerville is fit I'd put him in instead of Soucek.

If he isn't, maybe give Earthy or Kante a go.

Paqueta shouldn't walk back into the team.

Isn't it a fact that over the last year or so we've been a lot more effective in terms of getting results when he doesn't play/start, than when he does?



 

 

 

Agree, Earthy probably deserves a go more than Guilherme, he looked really comfortable before his injury.

[fraser]

Only one selection question here isn't there?

If Summerville is fit I'd put him in instead of Soucek.

If he isn't, maybe give Earthy or Kante a go.

Paqueta shouldn't walk back into the team.

Isn't it a fact that over the last year or so we've been a lot more effective in terms of getting results when he doesn't play/start, than when he does?


 

No we've won 2 of our last 5 he played in 3 of them 2 which we won one which we lost the other 2 we didn't win. 

[fraser]

Only one selection question here isn't there?

If Summerville is fit I'd put him in instead of Soucek.

If he isn't, maybe give Earthy or Kante a go.

Paqueta shouldn't walk back into the team.

Isn't it a fact that over the last year or so we've been a lot more effective in terms of getting results when he doesn't play/start, than when he does?


 

 

[fraser]

Regardless of whether Paqueta is or isn’t one of our more talented players, the fact is he wants away either next month or in 25 games time, we better get used to playing without him sooner rather than later and that can only be achieved one way. Our midfield didn’t look bad against the mancs. Jimmy or Guilherme for Soucek though.

That's ridiculous, lots of clubs have players that won't be with them next season.. You don't leave them out when you're paying for them for half a season.. That's what pre season is for... Maybe we shouldn't have played Rice  when we knew he was going for a whole season. 

[Sweep]

Only one selection question here isn't there?

If Summerville is fit I'd put him in instead of Soucek.

If he isn't, maybe give Earthy or Kante a go.

Paqueta shouldn't walk back into the team.

Isn't it a fact that over the last year or so we've been a lot more effective in terms of getting results when he doesn't play/start, than when he does?

 

[GBHammer63]

Regardless of whether Paqueta is or isn’t one of our more talented players, the fact is he wants away either next month or in 25 games time, we better get used to playing without him sooner rather than later and that can only be achieved one way. Our midfield didn’t look bad against the mancs. Jimmy or Guilherme for Soucek though.

[fraser]

We had 70% pass completion the other day, not exactly keeping the ball is it.

Paqueta is at 79% how does he bring it down? 

[Tomshardware]

Agree, we should stick with same midfield as the other day.  Fed up of Paqueta losing possession and play acting. 

[Takashi Miike]

brighton have shipped goals for fun, so all the more reason for silly bollocks to take the handbrake off the permanently parked bus. will he? probably not

[THUNDERCLINT]

Nonuts will parachute Crapaqueta straight back into the team, our ball retention will tank as the overhyped showboat cսnt gives it away with reckless abandon. The diving will go up a level as the self obsessed twat tries to demonstrate the conspiracy against him. That'll probably cost us a goal as it usually does.

Morale will be in the shitter as the ball keeps coming straight back at us, it'll be more unwatchable backs to the wall shite. 

1 shot on target if we're lucky.

All because Nonuts just has to pick the cսnt.

[fraser]

Alfs, Ferret’s harmless and has some good points at times. The Potts thing and other posts, which appear to be anti West Ham are, to state the obvious, just to irritate people.  His or her motivations are unclear without meeting him or her ( which all of us probably wouldnt want to do ). They could be from someone who is a narcissist of some sort ( there are lots of types as we know ) or someone with antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder but more likely , and hopefully, just a general need to manipulate, control and / or get attention / validation. One of the many downsides of social media platforms and the anonymity they provide I guess?. Interesting that Australia is trying to ban social media for u16s such is the risk to mental health of some kids. For us adults ( loose term ) its just something best to ignore imho




 

Exactly that, but his keepnet is always bulging.. He just likes to be abused a bit of a cuck I reckon. 

[stubbo-admin]

Alfs, Ferret’s harmless and has some good points at times. The Potts thing and other posts, which appear to be anti West Ham are, to state the obvious, just to irritate people.  His or her motivations are unclear without meeting him or her ( which all of us probably wouldnt want to do ). They could be from someone who is a narcissist of some sort ( there are lots of types as we know ) or someone with antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder but more likely , and hopefully, just a general need to manipulate, control and / or get attention / validation. One of the many downsides of social media platforms and the anonymity they provide I guess?. Interesting that Australia is trying to ban social media for u16s such is the risk to mental health of some kids. For us adults ( loose term ) its just something best to ignore imho




 

Basically just a wind up cսnt.  Doesn't need psycho-analysing...his posts aren't funny, but his persona amuses me.

Find it remarkable at times people have the energy to keep up this kind of schtick on this kind of platform. I guess whatever floats your boat.

[Sir Alf]

Alfs, Ferret’s harmless and has some good points at times. The Potts thing and other posts, which appear to be anti West Ham are, to state the obvious, just to irritate people.  His or her motivations are unclear without meeting him or her ( which all of us probably wouldnt want to do ). They could be from someone who is a narcissist of some sort ( there are lots of types as we know ) or someone with antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder but more likely , and hopefully, just a general need to manipulate, control and / or get attention / validation. One of the many downsides of social media platforms and the anonymity they provide I guess?. Interesting that Australia is trying to ban social media for u16s such is the risk to mental health of some kids. For us adults ( loose term ) its just something best to ignore imho



 

[Alfs]

Will lose my shit if Nuno selects Potts again, seeing as we scored the minute he was withdrawn last night.

Fuck me, you're tedious.

[Sir Alf]

A word of caution ( nah not me I never go for just one word ). The Mancs, esp in midfield, are one of the slower outfits in a PL that gets faster and more physicsl every year and its whats holding them back imho. So it will be interesting to see how we cope against Brighton. They have Baleba now, their latest great find for centre mid after Bissouma and Caicedo, and he is a proper athlete. Not sure about who else they have in that atea but we know they will dominate possession since their footballing strategy ( aka long term plan ) has been predicated on that and has allowed them to recruit very well, sell players and change coaches seamlessly.  So our young midfield will need to be on somg again just 3 days after a proper workout at the Mancs. Fortunately having 3 lads in their early twenties makes that a lot easier.
Paqueta coming straight back in seems wrong but we cannot risk Soucek as a wide right midgielder again. He tried hard but was clearly a weakness in the teamer.  Whats more important for me is not to keep playing Fernandes out of position. He’s better in the centre of midfield  ( as he showed last 20 mins last night ) so Id stick Paqueta wide right and make clear he’s “doing a job” like a good team player should. Also if Paqueta plays for Paqueta and not the team be ready asap to stick Kante or ideally Earthy on who has played wide right effectively while at Bristol City on loan last season. 

Anyway, point is one game against the Mancs does not necessarily mean we have central midfield fully solved. It will take a few games more to know that starting tomorrow.  

Having said all that, upfront remains our biggest problem. No outball as Wilson’s game is not holding it up or running the channels. Having Summerville as a sub should help though.  

Finally, another of our nemisis’s teturns for Brighton…. Yep, Danny Welbeck. Old, injury prone but on his day still a decent player. Todibo and Mavro need to give him nothing

[honky cat]

Can only see us winning this so lump on.

​​​​​​I would leave paqueta on the naughty step for at least 30 mins. 
(but but he's our best player . . . )

No he isnt

Was a bit tongue in cheek. But that's the answer you get if you don't want him to play. Personally I wouldn't change Thursdays team unless Summerville became available.