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"Sport Bible New report on Lucas Paqueta's spot-fixing charges reveals how much of next season West Ham star can play There has been an update on Paqueta's case. Alex Brotherton Lucas Paqueta will be free to play for West Ham for most of next season despite facing spot-fixing charges. Paqueta has been charged by the Football Association with four separate instances of spot-fixing. The 28-year-old stands accused of deliberately getting himself booked during four Premier League matches. It is one of the most serious cases of spot-fixing involving a top-flight player in England, and could land Paqueta with a lengthy ban. However, the Brazil international can continue to play until the disciplinary process has been completed. According to The Times, the outcome of the process could be delayed until the end of the 2024-25 season or beyond. That is due to the complexity of the case; Paqueta's lawyers say it will take many months to secure all the witness statements and relevant information they need for their defence. That's because the case spans three countries - England, Brazil and Spain - and involves a large number of people. The charges allege that Paqueta got himself booked during matches against Leicester City, Aston Villa, Leeds United and Bournemouth over the past two seasons so that “one or more persons” could profit financially. The investigation that preceded the charges took eight months. In September 2023, Brazilian outlet Globo reported that suspicious gambling patterns were identified in Brazil relating to Paqueta being booked against Aston Villa in March that year. The bets were reportedly made using West Ham's shirt sponsor Betway, via accounts belonging to people linked to Paqueta. The FA initially gave the player until June 3 to respond to the charges, but his lawyers were granted an extension. English football's governing body has refused to put a timescale on the case. Paqueta has been linked with a move to Brazilian giants Flamengo this summer, but this latest development will give encouragement to new West Ham boss Julen Lopetegui that he can use the midfielderthis season."
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 08:22If it was a professional standard investigation, there will have been numerous points along the way which clearly suggested they had nothing to go on and should stop and admit defeat/withdraw their claim.
It is whoever insisted on keeping the investigation open at any/all of those points who should be named and shamed as they did nothing to enhance the impartiality claim the FA promotes.
A personal grudge, maybe? Doing your "bit" for the team you follow?
It appears to have been anything but a properly conducted investigation. But we shouldn't be surprised should we ? The F A have lots of previous so expecting anything closel;y resembling a professional standard is out of the question.
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I hope Paqueta takes legal action against the F A. It's not just that he was denied the chance of a career defining move but more the distress it must have caused him whilst waiting for the verdict to be given.
Once again the F A have proved themselves utterly unfit for purpose, Almost 2 years and for what ?
Once again the F A have proved themselves utterly unfit for purpose, Almost 2 years and for what ?
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If it was a professional standard investigation, there will have been numerous points along the way which clearly suggested they had nothing to go on and should stop and admit defeat/withdraw their claim.
It is whoever insisted on keeping the investigation open at any/all of those points who should be named and shamed as they did nothing to enhance the impartiality claim the FA promotes.
A personal grudge, maybe? Doing your "bit" for the team you follow?
It is whoever insisted on keeping the investigation open at any/all of those points who should be named and shamed as they did nothing to enhance the impartiality claim the FA promotes.
A personal grudge, maybe? Doing your "bit" for the team you follow?
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Paqueta’s transfer to Man City was agreed at £85m possibly including Cole Palmer coming to us at say £20m
Cole Palmer is now worth £135m so our net loss is £200m
Including additional costs & interest plus loss of European places let’s call it £300m and not speak of it again
Cole Palmer is now worth £135m so our net loss is £200m
Including additional costs & interest plus loss of European places let’s call it £300m and not speak of it again
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The report is scathing about the FA’s investigation and their ‘case’ was destroyed by the evidence & the testimony of Moyes & Clattenburg
It was a disaster led by the then President of the FA who supports Aston Villa
Disgrace for a man whose Grandmother was a West Ham fan
Should consider his public position & remove he and his family from any further roles
Prince Harry can step up as the next King with Queen Meghan
It was a disaster led by the then President of the FA who supports Aston Villa
Disgrace for a man whose Grandmother was a West Ham fan
Should consider his public position & remove he and his family from any further roles
Prince Harry can step up as the next King with Queen Meghan
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 16:27Council Scum" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 14:50Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 14:14 You just know what the FA will say if West Ham/Paqueta pursue a claim, don't you?
"Sue us and you're effectively suing the 19 other clubs who, along with you, sit at the top table of this organisation. We'll have to pass on whatever you win to them in increased costs".
Lose and they'll hold a grudge bigger, stronger and longer that a washerwoman against the Met Office who goes outside to bring in her laundry only to find it lying in next door's vegetable garden.It's the FA not the Premier LeagueThe Premier League doesn't have a top table.
Yes, it does. At the top table sits the Chair and his (their) designated officers. His (their) principle responsibility at each regular meeting is to ensure that the agenda is followed in order.
Otherwise you might as well have 20 blokes down the pub all trying to shout over each other.
All sports governance is largely the same, this is just different due to the money involved. And even then, it pales into insignificance against the yank and Jap sports.
Otherwise you might as well have 20 blokes down the pub all trying to shout over each other.
All sports governance is largely the same, this is just different due to the money involved. And even then, it pales into insignificance against the yank and Jap sports.
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Council Scum" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 14:50Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 14:14 You just know what the FA will say if West Ham/Paqueta pursue a claim, don't you?
"Sue us and you're effectively suing the 19 other clubs who, along with you, sit at the top table of this organisation. We'll have to pass on whatever you win to them in increased costs".
Lose and they'll hold a grudge bigger, stronger and longer that a washerwoman against the Met Office who goes outside to bring in her laundry only to find it lying in next door's vegetable garden.It's the FA not the Premier League
The Premier League doesn't have a top table.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 14:14 You just know what the FA will say if West Ham/Paqueta pursue a claim, don't you?
"Sue us and you're effectively suing the 19 other clubs who, along with you, sit at the top table of this organisation. We'll have to pass on whatever you win to them in increased costs".
Lose and they'll hold a grudge bigger, stronger and longer that a washerwoman against the Met Office who goes outside to bring in her laundry only to find it lying in next door's vegetable garden.
No washerwoman would hold much of a grudge against the Met Office for that. Irritation at the most.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 14:14 You just know what the FA will say if West Ham/Paqueta pursue a claim, don't you?
"Sue us and you're effectively suing the 19 other clubs who, along with you, sit at the top table of this organisation. We'll have to pass on whatever you win to them in increased costs".
Lose and they'll hold a grudge bigger, stronger and longer that a washerwoman against the Met Office who goes outside to bring in her laundry only to find it lying in next door's vegetable garden.
It's the FA not the Premier League
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You just know what the FA will say if West Ham/Paqueta pursue a claim, don't you?
"Sue us and you're effectively suing the 19 other clubs who, along with you, sit at the top table of this organisation. We'll have to pass on whatever you win to them in increased costs".
Lose and they'll hold a grudge bigger, stronger and longer that a washerwoman against the Met Office who goes outside to bring in her laundry only to find it lying in next door's vegetable garden.
"Sue us and you're effectively suing the 19 other clubs who, along with you, sit at the top table of this organisation. We'll have to pass on whatever you win to them in increased costs".
Lose and they'll hold a grudge bigger, stronger and longer that a washerwoman against the Met Office who goes outside to bring in her laundry only to find it lying in next door's vegetable garden.
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"he appears to suggest that if you're looking for spot fixing, you should be looking at the referees who made these calls."
been saying it for a long time. many are corrupt as fuck
been saying it for a long time. many are corrupt as fuck
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the midget, and the player need to take them to court. the useless cunts need to be deterred from potentially ruining more careers without substantial evidence
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Just saying that FA has been incompetent is not enough.
Clearly, the officials within the FA who have overseen this debacle need to be named and brought to account.
An interesting documentary in the waiting?
Clearly, the officials within the FA who have overseen this debacle need to be named and brought to account.
An interesting documentary in the waiting?
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There should be repurcussions for this. Does not matter how many sporting bodies were looking into it and not saying they weren't right to look into it but there is no way it should take 2 years to come to a conclusion and this whole episode has been materially detrimental to West Ham and Paqueta.
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Spot fixing by refs would be quite easy
Gambler asks for 6+ yellows in a game and ref could oblige comfortably by being a bit strict on late tackles etc
Paqueta does like a bit of play acting & falling over but do often feel he is treated harshly. Possibly due to the first part of that sentence
That said it never seemed to restrict Kane getting endless free kicks after flopping to the ground
Gambler asks for 6+ yellows in a game and ref could oblige comfortably by being a bit strict on late tackles etc
Paqueta does like a bit of play acting & falling over but do often feel he is treated harshly. Possibly due to the first part of that sentence
That said it never seemed to restrict Kane getting endless free kicks after flopping to the ground
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I'm starting to see why Gladiators wanted Mark Clattenberg as their referee.
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Gank wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 11:27El Scorchio" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 10:57Gank wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 10:42 Yep, I cannot stand Moyes but he did the right thing here (not of his own free will, mind).
The real stinger in the case looks to be Mark Clattenberg's evidence. Having looked at it in a bit more detail, he goes further than saying that Paqueta did not behave in any way that would have aroused his suspicion - he appears to suggest that if you're looking for spot fixing, you should be looking at the referees who made these calls.
Am I reading something that isn't there or has anyone else taken this inference from his comments?Said he thought two of them weren't even yellows either didn't he?He did, he was explicit about that. Then an unusual turn of phrase, which I can't exactly remember but to paraphrase, "if you're looking for unusual activities regarding yellow cards, this player is not the one acting peculiarly"
Very interesting! Sounds like it, doesn't it! Maybe he knows something and can safely shout it from behind the shoulders of his gladiator pals hahaha
I'd be surprised if refs were immune from it. Would explain a fair few decisions over the years
I'd be surprised if refs were immune from it. Would explain a fair few decisions over the years
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El Scorchio" wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 10:57Gank wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 10:42 Yep, I cannot stand Moyes but he did the right thing here (not of his own free will, mind).
The real stinger in the case looks to be Mark Clattenberg's evidence. Having looked at it in a bit more detail, he goes further than saying that Paqueta did not behave in any way that would have aroused his suspicion - he appears to suggest that if you're looking for spot fixing, you should be looking at the referees who made these calls.
Am I reading something that isn't there or has anyone else taken this inference from his comments?Said he thought two of them weren't even yellows either didn't he?
He did, he was explicit about that. Then an unusual turn of phrase, which I can't exactly remember but to paraphrase, "if you're looking for unusual activities regarding yellow cards, this player is not the one acting peculiarly"
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Gank wrote: ↑04 Sep 2025, 10:42 Yep, I cannot stand Moyes but he did the right thing here (not of his own free will, mind).
The real stinger in the case looks to be Mark Clattenberg's evidence. Having looked at it in a bit more detail, he goes further than saying that Paqueta did not behave in any way that would have aroused his suspicion - he appears to suggest that if you're looking for spot fixing, you should be looking at the referees who made these calls.
Am I reading something that isn't there or has anyone else taken this inference from his comments?
Said he thought two of them weren't even yellows either didn't he?
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Yep, I cannot stand Moyes but he did the right thing here (not of his own free will, mind).
The real stinger in the case looks to be Mark Clattenberg's evidence. Having looked at it in a bit more detail, he goes further than saying that Paqueta did not behave in any way that would have aroused his suspicion - he appears to suggest that if you're looking for spot fixing, you should be looking at the referees who made these calls.
Am I reading something that isn't there or has anyone else taken this inference from his comments?
The real stinger in the case looks to be Mark Clattenberg's evidence. Having looked at it in a bit more detail, he goes further than saying that Paqueta did not behave in any way that would have aroused his suspicion - he appears to suggest that if you're looking for spot fixing, you should be looking at the referees who made these calls.
Am I reading something that isn't there or has anyone else taken this inference from his comments?
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I cannot quite believe the FA pushed this as far as they did, based on what they confirm themselves as “entirely circumstantial evidence”.
And for two years!
That has to be one of the weakest cases I’ve seen. Fair play to Moyes for ridiculing the evidence against the four alleged dubious yellow cards.
I hope both parties do go after them.
And for two years!
That has to be one of the weakest cases I’ve seen. Fair play to Moyes for ridiculing the evidence against the four alleged dubious yellow cards.
I hope both parties do go after them.